K1 visa refused (merged)

[RJandHamid 1,133]

56 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

They interview at Casa embassy for K1 from 8 am to 12pm  

one every 15 minutes as scheduled that is

16 K1's a day

and yes,  there are that many (just under 100 a week)

But they are probably not interviewing only K-1 visas during that time slot. They also issue hundreds of B1/B2 visas, many student visas, different types of family visas and so on. I think the 100 K-1 visa a week estimate is very high. 

[Boiler 45,552]

Certainly for Visitor Visa's the general view is that most are decided upon before you are interviewed and that the interview is a formality.

[Hobidyali 267]

5 minutes ago, Love To Teach said:

Yes, the decisions are obviously made BEFORE the person shows up. The amazing thing is that the US Embassy allows people to be harassed, demeaned, and basically tortured with verbal assaults and body language during these interviews. It makes me sad that the US encourages this.

I don't think that the U S encourages it as it is after all a U.S. consulate which should operate under the amendments of our country where there is justice ,no discrimination allowed which includes age and other things. I believe that these people so what the neck they want because no one has the nerve and heart to stand up to them, this is why they get away with it because the beneficiary being the interested party is probably afraid to rock the boat , some don't as these are injustices that should be looked at closely and with a loop.

[SalishSea 17,840]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Certainly for Visitor Visa's the general view is that most are decided upon before you are interviewed and that the interview is a formality.

Hence the notion that the DS-160 for B-2 is a stand-alone application and no superfluous documents are needed at the interview.

[Boiler 45,552]

Not sure how to word this, so lets say you are a Consular Officer and you have been around the world and have interviewed all sorts of shapes sizes ages etc and then are posted to Casablanca and it seems that most cases follow one particular format that is against the social norm. You would no doubt have gone through a course about local culture etc as part of you being posted there.

 

What are you supposed to think?

[Hobidyali 267]

18 minutes ago, RJandHamid said:

But they are probably not interviewing only K-1 visas during that time slot. They also issue hundreds of B1/B2 visas, many student visas, different types of family visas and so on. I think the 100 K-1 visa a week estimate is very high. 

How many do you think are scheduled a week realistically?

 

[Hobidyali 267]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Not sure how to word this, so lets say you are a Consular Officer and you have been around the world and have interviewed all sorts of shapes sizes ages etc and then are posted to Casablanca and it seems that most cases follow one particular format that is against the social norm. You would no doubt have gone through a course about local culture etc as part of you being posted there.

 

What are you supposed to think?

That most of these people are dying to get out of dodge, my only opposition to all of this is that they should air on the side of caution but there are people who shouldn't endure these denials/ap's etc if their case is solid and nothing iffy or fraudulent seems to be the present within their case.

[mohamed el amrani 1]

Just now, Hobidyali said:

Mohamed, I have a question, do you have age difference between your fiance and you? Anything that stands out as a red flag?

Yes . But just 5 years older. Is not red flag .it is very normal

[SalishSea 17,840]

Just now, Hobidyali said:

That most of these people are dying to get out of dodge, my only opposition to all of this is that they should air on the side of caution but there are people who shouldn't endure these denials/ap's etc if their case is solid and nothing iffy or fraudulent seems to be the present within their case.

That’s just the thing- evaluating that is not easy.   How many older American women have been duped into fraudulent  greeen card marriages?  We have seen so many here on VJ alone.   Obviously most of these relationships between younger MENA men and older American women are totally legit, but because a clear pattern has been established, the charge of the CO is to try to weed out those that are not.

[Boiler 45,552]

Just now, Hobidyali said:

That most of these people are dying to get out of dodge, my only opposition to all of this is that they should air on the side of caution but there are people who shouldn't endure these denials/ap's etc if their case is solid and nothing iffy or fraudulent seems to be the present within their case.

Obviously I have been through it and also a B refusal.

 

Now I do not know what happened behind the scenes, so to keep this from getting out of hand I will think of my case. I assume they did not have a team out investigating my situation, the cost and practicality just is not there, so it was a paperwork exercise and a fairly crude one at that.

 

My case no doubt looked normal, nothing odd, but I have no idea how you could really tell from the paperwork submitted and a very brief interview.

[Hobidyali 267]

5 minutes ago, mohamed el amrani said:

Yes . But just 5 years older. Is not red flag .it is very normal

I didn't say it was a red flag, I just was curious to get an idea of why you were given it, considering you are from Fes, that's the main reason there.

[Hobidyali 267]

5 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

That’s just the thing- evaluating that is not easy.   How many older American women have been duped into fraudulent  greeen card marriages?  We have seen so many here on VJ alone.   Obviously most of these relationships between younger MENA men and older American women are totally legit, but because a clear pattern has been established, the charge of the CO is to try to weed out those that are not.

Agreed, but since we are on this topic, let's look at the case of one young and beautiful (not that that should matter but it should be an indicator, that had her husband interview last week. He was put in AP, you tell me what stood out in their case to warrant a DS, these young people are clearly in love and essentially have no red flags. I agree with you 100%, I really do , I just think that they are so tired of the same BS day in and day out and just say screw it, I can't take not one more senior citizen woman coming in here talking about my 27 year old fiance loves me.

[Hobidyali 267]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Obviously I have been through it and also a B refusal.

 

Now I do not know what happened behind the scenes, so to keep this from getting out of hand I will think of my case. I assume they did not have a team out investigating my situation, the cost and practicality just is not there, so it was a paperwork exercise and a fairly crude one at that.

 

My case no doubt looked normal, nothing odd, but I have no idea how you could really tell from the paperwork submitted and a very brief interview.

"but I have no idea how you could really tell from the paperwork submitted and a very brief interview."

 

Very valid point also and can't argue with that.

7 minutes ago, Love To Teach said:

But you are right in that as long as people are afraid and don't file complaints, it will continue. We now have a target on our backs, but we don't care. Sometimes you just have to stand up for the right thing.

That is right.

[SalishSea 17,840]

1 minute ago, Hobidyali said:

Agreed, but since we are on this topic, let's look at the case of one young and beautiful (not that that should matter but it should be an indicator, that had her husband interview last week. He was put in AP, you tell me what stood out in their case to warrant a DS, these young people are clearly in love and essentially have no red flags. I agree with you 100%, I really do , I just think that they are so tired of the same BS day in and day out and just say screw it, I can't take not one more senior citizen woman coming in here talking about my 27 year old fiance loves me.

How can you or anyone else know what stood out as a concern in their application?  Less likely to be marriage fraud, yes, but could well be security checks.   

 

 

[Boiler 45,552]

So what should the process be?

 

Without it costing $50,000 whatever for an in depth investigation. I am hard pushed to come up with a good solution.