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I don't see why not - the acceptability of the I-864 and the underlying public charge concern is determined by the CO.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

I don't see why not - the acceptability of the I-864 and the underlying public charge concern is determined by the CO.

sorry i didnt get your answer. will the new one be applicable? as the document which were accepted were as per the old poverty guideline

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6 hours ago, Hamza86 said:

sorry i didnt get your answer. will the new one be applicable? as the document which were accepted were as per the old poverty guideline

NVC accepted the documents, but the Consular Officer (CO) at the embassy is the one to make the decision on the public charge.

 

I doubt the updated guidelines will make a difference. The poverty level only establish a minimum income level for consideration...the CO still makes a decision based upon the totality of the circumstances.

If somebody was borderline to begin with, the CO likely would request a joint sponsor anyway. If they were not borderline, the new poverty levels doesn't change the practical concerns around becoming a public charge or not.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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And with OP's baby on the way, the CO would be the ultimate judge whether the current i864 will suffice. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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1 hour ago, geowrian said:

NVC accepted the documents, but the Consular Officer (CO) at the embassy is the one to make the decision on the public charge.

 

I doubt the updated guidelines will make a difference. The poverty level only establish a minimum income level for consideration...the CO still makes a decision based upon the totality of the circumstances.

If somebody was borderline to begin with, the CO likely would request a joint sponsor anyway. If they were not borderline, the new poverty levels doesn't change the practical concerns around becoming a public charge or not.

my i864 house hold size calculates to 3. I have join sponsor(my wifes father) who has a income of 45k approx annually. as per poverty guidelines its quite high. But one thing i am still confused about is that my joint sponsor whose dependents include two sons and his wife will be included in this house hold size at the time of the interview bcoz as per the formula given the affadavit of support house hold size only totals to 3?

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5 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

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if the baby is not born till the time of my interview (which i am not sure as its currently my wifes 9 month) can affect the house hold size number? secondly i am also taking another updated copy of the affidavit of support as well incase if the baby is born.

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21 minutes ago, Hamza86 said:

my i864 house hold size calculates to 3. I have join sponsor(my wifes father) who has a income of 45k approx annually. as per poverty guidelines its quite high. But one thing i am still confused about is that my joint sponsor whose dependents include two sons and his wife will be included in this house hold size at the time of the interview bcoz as per the formula given the affadavit of support house hold size only totals to 3?

I would keep open the possibility of lining up another sponsor just in case. The CO decides if 45k is sufficient for all the household members. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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4 hours ago, Hamza86 said:

my i864 house hold size calculates to 3. I have join sponsor(my wifes father) who has a income of 45k approx annually. as per poverty guidelines its quite high. But one thing i am still confused about is that my joint sponsor whose dependents include two sons and his wife will be included in this house hold size at the time of the interview bcoz as per the formula given the affadavit of support house hold size only totals to 3?

Then they did the Household calculations wrong his household size is 4 not 3.
joint sponsor + 2 sons + 1 wife + beneficiary= 4

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40 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

Then they did the Household calculations wrong his household size is 4 not 3.
joint sponsor + 2 sons + 1 wife + beneficiary= 4

But there is no box for petitioners mother or son in i864 form thats why its calculated as 3.  please note that my wifes father is the joint sponsor living in same residence where my wife lives

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