Special agent from diplomatic security

[MeghanK 629]

Are you just assuming it has to do with your case? Do you know that?

 

It could literally be anything and just coincidental. Your fiance's friend might know someone going through high level government security check for a Dept of State job or something... that is a regular thing that "Diplomatic Security" does... make random house visits to "references" for security clearance. It probably has nothing to do with you or your fiance. 

[Tia Stephanie 20]

23 minutes ago, MeghanK said:

Are you just assuming it has to do with your case? Do you know that?

 

It could literally be anything and just coincidental. Your fiance's friend might know someone going through high level government security check for a Dept of State job or something... that is a regular thing that "Diplomatic Security" does... make random house visits to "references" for security clearance. It probably has nothing to do with you or your fiance. 

That's because the time is so right, like i mentioned before and my fiance had some criminal records before.. But his criminal record has nothing to do with DSS i guess, most of them only related with traffic violations.. And as long as i know his friend come from good family and he doesn't have criminal record. I've asked them to call that person soon,for make everything's clear

[Tia Stephanie 20]

13 minutes ago, LizM said:

Would be great if you could get the exact name of the place this special agent works for. I would also not assume it has to do with you at all, unless they already specifically asked about you of course. Does your fiancé live with this friend?

 

Like mentioned above, someone could've put this friend down as a reference for security clearance. They do home checks for that. Sounds odd to me that it would be linked to your visa.

Nope, my fiance doesn't live with his friend.. They just know each other for long time, i assume it has related with me because the time is so match.. My visa process is now at NVC stage, and i heard they do have some background check.. And my fiance also had criminal record, but what make me feel odd is my fiance doesn't do like "heavy criminal" for department like DSS needs to handle. So not sure if this is linked to my visa or not. 

I've checked ID card he left and it seem legit, we've asked my fiance's friend to call that agent for make sure. Hopefully everything's fine. 

[Tia Stephanie 20]

3 minutes ago, LizM said:

Well. If it's really the DSS, they're not reaching out to that friend about your fiancé's traffic violations, that's for sure. What other crimes has he committed, if you don't mind me asking? What does your fiancé do? What do you do?

Nothing to do, no imbra or Adam waiver or etc.. 

He's just regular employee and work as chief tech in debt company and i DO not  have any criminal record, never go to police office either 

[Banana9ieue 26]

Do you have a picture of the business card he left?

[kris&me 572]

blowing smoke for sure

you have no timeline but mention your case is about to go to NVC

so,   immigrant's country still knows nothing about your case 

so,  how does a diplomatic security there come to ask about you?

and, in the US,  it would be Homeland Security and at this point since the immigrant's embassy would not know about the case , Homeland Security would be the only ones to "maybe "   do any investigative work

 

business cards for Homeland security say this:

top line it wiil say the state

under it says Office of Homeland Security

 

then there is a golden embossed seal that in a circle says 

great seal of the state of ____________________whatever the state is

 

under that says the person's name

his/her position (in that division )

 Information sharing & Law Enforcement /investigative Support

 

then all address of such office on left bottom 

right bottom has phone and fax numbers

 

if the card does not look like that

it is not real

 

Edited March 9, 2019 by kris&me

[MeghanK 629]

Yeah, again, to ease your mind, if they wanted to investigate you or your fiance, in a deeper manner than is already standard, a house visit to your fiance's friend would not be how they do it. Why would they do this in the application stage when they could simply just DENY you at either the petition or interview stage if they suspected something. They aren't going to send in a private investigator when they have much simpler and more cost/time efficient ways to handle K1 cases. The only reasons a Diplomatic Security rep would be doing house visits for anything related to a visa would be if someone is straight up ACTIVELY committing visa fraud. There's no way they would do something like that during an application stage when there are already viable fraud preventative measures in place at this stage, i.e. not giving you a visa to begin with....

 

Secondly, how would they know your fiance's friend is his friend let alone all his personal info like where he lives - that would require a DEEP private investigation on their end. There's no way they'd expel resources to dig that deeply into a friend of a K1 visa applicant before it even gets into the hands of Dept of State at the consulate. 

 

Unless you seriously don't know your own fiance at all, and he has committed major visa fraud in the past, or is actively a part of visa fraud, and his name triggered something in the system that warranted sending DSS after him, this likely has nothing to do with either of you. 

 

Definitely keep us posted, or ask your fiance's friend if anyone he knows might have used him as a character reference for a job. I had a friend ask me "is it cool if I put you as a reference for a job" before and I had no idea it would entail a seemingly sketchy random "agent" coming to my house (across the country) and asking to speak with me in-person, in private. But alas, it was nothing more than a very legit check-in of my friend for a federal job. So don't stress!

Edited March 9, 2019 by MeghanK

[geowrian 22,337]

1 hour ago, MeghanK said:

Yeah, again, to ease your mind, if they wanted to investigate you or your fiance, in a deeper manner than is already standard, a house visit to your fiance's friend would not be how they do it. Why would they do this in the application stage when they could simply just DENY you at either the petition or interview stage if they suspected something. They aren't going to send in a private investigator when they have much simpler and more cost/time efficient ways to handle K1 cases. The only reasons a Diplomatic Security rep would be doing house visits for anything related to a visa would be if someone is straight up ACTIVELY committing visa fraud. There's no way they would do something like that during an application stage when there are already viable fraud preventative measures in place at this stage, i.e. not giving you a visa to begin with....

Actually, this is incorrect. They haven't applied for the visa yet - only a petition was filed. They cannot deny a petition like that - they must approve the petition as long as the requirements are met. The I-129F is about the petitioner, not the beneficiary....even if the beneficiary had a permanent, unwaivable inadmissible, they would approve the petition if the petitioner met the requirements.

 

I agree that them looking into the case this early is highly unusual and we aren't 100% sure it was them nor related to this case.

[MeghanK 629]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

Actually, this is incorrect. They haven't applied for the visa yet - only a petition was filed. They cannot deny a petition like that - they must approve the petition as long as the requirements are met. The I-129F is about the petitioner, not the beneficiary....even if the beneficiary had a permanent, unwaivable inadmissible, they would approve the petition if the petitioner met the requirements.

 

I agree that them looking into the case this early is highly unusual and we aren't 100% sure it was them nor related to this case.

I think you misunderstood me. What you are saying is exactly what I am saying, to a point. 1. I'm saying dept of state wouldn't be involved before their app even hit dept of state (reason 1 for why the DSS agent prob has nothing to do with them) and 2. There would be no reason (unless the one a I mentioned where petitioner was under investigation for previous visa fraud unrelated to their current petition) for a DSS agent to be exploring visa fraud at the petition stage when if they suspected fraud they would just deny the visa at consulate stage. I'm providing examples of why it makes little sense that the DSS agent would be related to their K1.

[Tia Stephanie 20]

8 hours ago, kris&me said:

blowing smoke for sure

you have no timeline but mention your case is about to go to NVC

so,   immigrant's country still knows nothing about your case 

so,  how does a diplomatic security there come to ask about you?

and, in the US,  it would be Homeland Security and at this point since the immigrant's embassy would not know about the case , Homeland Security would be the only ones to "maybe "   do any investigative work

 

business cards for Homeland security say this:

top line it wiil say the state

under it says Office of Homeland Security

 

then there is a golden embossed seal that in a circle says 

great seal of the state of ____________________whatever the state is

 

under that says the person's name

his/her position (in that division )

 Information sharing & Law Enforcement /investigative Support

 

then all address of such office on left bottom 

right bottom has phone and fax numbers

 

if the card does not look like that

it is not real

 

Oh this is really make me curious, does timeline in this website important??????? 

I ever asked about this thing before, does timeline in this website have matter with any department that handle visa.. And people in this forum say none, so i don't bother to make timeline. Can u explain it better?? 

And unfortunately, the card look like that, but the golden seal doesn't say Homeland Security but diplomatic security. I stop talking about this in this topic because i still waiting information from my fiance's friend to give us an update. 

Im not that free anyway to bloke smoke in something like this coz i know how it feels. Waiting for visa without know what's going next and only thing can do is BEING PATIENT 

[geowrian 22,337]

2 minutes ago, Tia Stephanie said:

I ever asked about this thing before, does timeline in this website have matter with any department that handle visa.. And people in this forum say none, so i don't bother to make timeline. Can u explain it better??  

It's not required, but it is very helpful to respond to questions if you know the timeline/history. Otherwise it's more likely to get incomplete advice, or spend a while going back and forth to get the timeline.

[SalishSea 17,828]

On 3/8/2019 at 2:10 PM, Tia Stephanie said:

Hello guys, 

I'm in K1 visa processing in step tranfer to NVC, they state if they've been accepted my document from USCIS on March 4th 2019 and during that time there's special agent from diplomatic security visit my fiance's friend. 

Is that normal for special agent visit during K1 visa  processing? 

Thank you 😊

Sounds like a scam.

[Ryan H 3,812]

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

[MeghanK 629]

Curious to know how this played out.... @Tia Stephanie any updates?

[Tia Stephanie 20]

Hello guys, thank you so much for all ur responses and opinions.. Appreciate them so much! 

I'm here to give update of my posting before. So the DSS agent turn out has NOTHING to do with our case and also with my fiance's friend. The agent just came for asked my friend's dad because there's illegal immigrant lived in his apartment. Just silly because the time was so perfect 😅😂😂

 

Also our K1 visa case is doing well with status "In Transit" now. God willing I'll have my interview soon. 

Wish me luck 🙏 

 

Thank you 😊😊