Manila Embassy..Proof of support,

[CountryGirl 0]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

[David-and-Mae 15]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

The most recent the better. All the documents I got from my fiance where made back in late March but I think everything is good...

[CountryGirl 0]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

The most recent the better. All the documents I got from my fiance where made back in late March but I think everything is good...

HI,Mae,thnx for the info

[CountryBoy 0]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

The most recent the better. All the documents I got from my fiance where made back in late March but I think everything is good...

HI,Mae,thnx for the info

Could someone please quote fact, not opinion on this one .. thanks ..

CB

[David-and-Mae 15]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

The most recent the better. All the documents I got from my fiance where made back in late March but I think everything is good...

HI,Mae,thnx for the info

Could someone please quote fact, not opinion on this one .. thanks ..

CB

... and that's a FACT. Like I said, the recent dates the better...

[CountryBoy 0]

how recent does my petitioner's employment and bank letter and I-134 Have to be?I have copies that were made in december...

The most recent the better. All the documents I got from my fiance where made back in late March but I think everything is good...

HI,Mae,thnx for the info

Could someone please quote fact, not opinion on this one .. thanks ..

CB

... and that's a FACT. Like I said, the recent dates the better...

do you have a document to reference that says, "the recent dates the better" ?? or perhaps one that says proof of support documentation must be no older than 3 months? or 6 months? or 1 year? (the I-134 says 1 year, so does the K-1 Visa Guides here)

I appreciate your imput, but I would much rather have concrete statements based on fact which can be backed up with experience or documents stating an actual timeline .. not "the recent dates the better". If someone has been put on AR because of support documents being "too old", then I want to hear that.

Mylene often gets worked up over people's opinions being posted on VJ when reasonable people take them for what they are worth, the paper that they are written on. I would rather have the ones that are written on paper as established by the US Government.

Obtaining some of these documents are very time consuming and I don't look forward to getting them again.

Could someone that knows the TRUE answer to this question and can reference materials or experience please reply to this question.

Thanks,

CB

Edited May 25, 2007 by CountryBoy

[Pinay Wife 47]

CB,

Sometimes the forms, instructions and rules written by the government are vague, ambiguous, contradictory and even incorrect* that's why these can be interpreted a lot of ways that lead to our confusion.

The instructions in the older packet say that documents must be "current". What may be current to us may not be considered current by the embassy. To play it safe, Manila thread suggests for documents to be 6 months old or less for it to be considered current. If your I-134 and other support documents are 7 months old at the time of your fiancee's interview, I would personally think that to be okay but not sure how the embassy would feel about it as we have not had anyone report that they were put on AR because of older documents. But then again, the embassy does not tell the visa applicant the reason for AR (except when they ask for co-sponsor) so we really do not have a way of knowing. We've heard reports though of the embassy directly requesting NSO for BCs and Cenomars even if applicants submitted them already. Not sure though why submitted documents were not acceptable to them that they have to order another one. Was it older? Did they suspect it to be fake? We don't know.

In your case, if you feel comfortable with a 7-month old I-134 and employment certificate, by all means, have your fiancee use that during her interview. But have another one made if you are not comfortable. It all depends on how far you are willing to take a risk. Ultimately, the decision is yours to make.

*An example of incorrect info given by the US govt/Embassy can be found in the instructions contained in Packet 4. Embassy states that BPI will validate the DS-156 form when in truth and in fact, it is the DS-157 that the bank validates.

I hope this has been helpful.

PW

Edited May 25, 2007 by PatientlyWaiting

[joemaria 0]

Hi Donnie and Maylene,

I will answer your query based on my experience.

My fiance sent me his affidavit of support and its supplemental documents such as employment, insurance and savings certificates, 5 days before it is in its 6 months. He sent it to me Nov 27, 2006 and i had my interview last May 22, 2007 and good news we were approved, got the pink slip! Right now we are waiting for my visa to arrive hopefully soon next week. I also agree to what PW posted here...hope this would help u though .

[vsmtghdy 2]

I had my interview April 20. My husband brought with him all his "current" Affidavit of Support Documents: 2006 ITR, 2007 employment/business, bank and Insurance records. We have a copy of the Affidavit of Support (I-864) including documents that we submitted to NVC (December 2006) and a new AOS form and documents for 2007. CO was impressed of course as we are updated and well-organized.

[CountryBoy 0]

CB,

Sometimes the forms, instructions and rules written by the government are vague, ambiguous, contradictory and even incorrect* that's why these can be interpreted a lot of ways that lead to our confusion.

The instructions in the older packet say that documents must be "current". What may be current to us may not be considered current by the embassy. To play it safe, Manila thread suggests for documents to be 6 months old or less for it to be considered current. If your I-134 and other support documents are 7 months old at the time of your fiancee's interview, I would personally think that to be okay but not sure how the embassy would feel about it as we have not had anyone report that they were put on AR because of older documents. But then again, the embassy does not tell the visa applicant the reason for AR (except when they ask for co-sponsor) so we really do not have a way of knowing. We've heard reports though of the embassy directly requesting NSO for BCs and Cenomars even if applicants submitted them already. Not sure though why submitted documents were not acceptable to them that they have to order another one. Was it older? Did they suspect it to be fake? We don't know.

In your case, if you feel comfortable with a 7-month old I-134 and employment certificate, by all means, have your fiancee use that during her interview. But have another one made if you are not comfortable. It all depends on how far you are willing to take a risk. Ultimately, the decision is yours to make.

*An example of incorrect info given by the US govt/Embassy can be found in the instructions contained in Packet 4. Embassy states that BPI will validate the DS-156 form when in truth and in fact, it is the DS-157 that the bank validates.

I hope this has been helpful.

PW

Thanks so much for your reply PW .. your information is ALWAYS insightful as it is generally based on past experience and fact.

I will not commit either way at this time, but am leaning toward getting a new letter from my employer and bank depending on what the Embassy has to say about it Monday morning, Manila time. I think it is best to request the definition of current from them as it is a "gray area" in the forum .. I will post their statement here after contacting them.

Thanks again,

CB

Hi Donnie and Maylene,

I will answer your query based on my experience.

My fiance sent me his affidavit of support and its supplemental documents such as employment, insurance and savings certificates, 5 days before it is in its 6 months. He sent it to me Nov 27, 2006 and i had my interview last May 22, 2007 and good news we were approved, got the pink slip! Right now we are waiting for my visa to arrive hopefully soon next week. I also agree to what PW posted here...hope this would help u though .

Thanks so much for your reply;

Could you please tell me what the DATES on the statements were? I understand that he sent them on Nov. 27th, but there is a chance that the date is earlier than that.

Thanks,

CB

I had my interview April 20. My husband brought with him all his "current" Affidavit of Support Documents: 2006 ITR, 2007 employment/business, bank and Insurance records. We have a copy of the Affidavit of Support (I-864) including documents that we submitted to NVC (December 2006) and a new AOS form and documents for 2007. CO was impressed of course as we are updated and well-organized.

Congrats with all of this

[joemaria 0]

All dated as of November 20, 2006, he sent it thru priority mail of USPS and I got it after 5 days.

[CountryBoy 0]

All dated as of November 20, 2006, he sent it thru priority mail of USPS and I got it after 5 days.

Thanks so much, that date makes it OVER 6 months old .. woohoo

[island_princess 2]

Do I have to present the original ITR and W-2 during the interview? My husband said that he will not send it to me. He won't take the risk of losing the original copy during mail delivery.

Aside from the original employment letter in company's letterhead and the notarized I-134 form.

What about his passport? Do I have to have the original copy of it or a photocopy will suffice?

[Pinay Wife 47]

Embassy accepted photocopy of my fiance's W2 and ITR.

For passport, it would be better if you present certified true copy, if available. I think the embassy will only require copy of the passport if your husband naturalized (plus the naturalization papers).

[DARUMA07 25]

I sent mine to Ruchie in Feb. after the NOA-2... She interviewed May 22 and got her pinkslip too! No problems at all!