How Important is Evidence of Bona Fide Marriage?

[Loren Y 2,755]

9 hours ago, K1visaHopeful said:

Note (not for your ronniebreda but for others reading, just tying in on your experience) that they no longer waive the AOS interview for K1s effective May 15th, 2018.

Don't think this is true. They are not interviewing every AOS application, that would be impossible, as of February 2019, directly from their USCIS manual and guide, you can still have your interview waived. Unless I'm reading this whole chapter 5 thing wrong, but I don't think I am. See link below...

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume7-PartA-Chapter5.html

[crono_clone 213]

7 hours ago, Liflead said:

Was the SSN applied after or before the marriage? How many days after the entry of the beneficiary? 

We applied before marriage, just 1 week after POE. 

 

It's been about 4 weeks since we applied and I'm hoping it comes any day now.

[ThomasNC1988 762]

16 minutes ago, crono_clone said:

We applied before marriage, just 1 week after POE. 

 

It's been about 4 weeks since we applied and I'm hoping it comes any day now.

You are getting to the point where it might be wise to follow up with the local office if you do not receive anything. 

[ThomasNC1988 762]

3 hours ago, Loren Y said:

Don't think this is true. They are not interviewing every AOS application, that would be impossible, as of February 2019, directly from their USCIS manual and guide, you can still have your interview waived. Unless I'm reading this whole chapter 5 thing wrong, but I don't think I am. See link below...

https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/HTML/PolicyManual-Volume7-PartA-Chapter5.html

Unfortunately, there has been an amendment or whatever you want to call it.

 

Updates the list of types of adjustment of status cases in which USCIS might waive the interview by removing employment-based and fiancé(e)-based adjustment cases from the list.

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20180531145705/https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/Updates/20180515-AdjustmentInterview.pdf

[Loren Y 2,755]

29 minutes ago, ThomasNC1988 said:

Unfortunately, there has been an amendment or whatever you want to call it.

 

Updates the list of types of adjustment of status cases in which USCIS might waive the interview by removing employment-based and fiancé(e)-based adjustment cases from the list.

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20180531145705/https://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/Updates/20180515-AdjustmentInterview.pdf

I didn't see that listed as an amendment in the current status, I'll look a little more, but the one I posted is current as of 2019.

Current as of February 12, 2019

So that maybe why yours is located in the archives

Edited March 6, 2019 by Loren Y

[ThomasNC1988 762]

6 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

It says the same thing, USCIS can still waive the interview, it doesn't say they are interviewing every K1 AOS applicant. It doesn't even mention k1, just any AOS applicant. Your post said they removed the interview waiver.

Note (not for your ronniebreda but for others reading, just tying in on your experience) that they no longer waive the AOS interview for K1s effective May 15th, 2018.

If fiance based AOS is no longer eligible to have the interview waived how is that not the same thing as they have to interview every K1 AOS? There is only one kind of fiance visa that I am aware of.

Edited March 6, 2019 by ThomasNC1988

[Loren Y 2,755]

1 minute ago, ThomasNC1988 said:

If fiance based AOS is no longer eligible to have the interview waived how is that not the same thing as they have to interview every K1 AOS?

I was adding to my post. I am checking more, but my link is current as of Current as of February 12, 2019

 

When your link is currently in the archives, so I don't think it is valid anymore. If it was still followed, they wouldn't archive it. 

[ThomasNC1988 762]

12 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

I was adding to my post. I am checking more, but my link is current as of Current as of February 12, 2019

 

When your link is currently in the archives, so I don't think it is valid anymore. If it was still followed, they wouldn't archive it. 

I don't mean to argue, but it's only in the archives because of the site I linked to it from. If you go to your link and click on the updates tab you see the May 15th 2018 update listed. If you read your link you will see that it does not say anything about a fiance or k1 being eligible for a waiver. That is because on May 15th 2018 they removed them from the lists of reasons for a waiver. That is the last update listed for section A.5.  It is an undisputed fact that every K-1 AOS has to have an interview after May 15th 2018.

 

 

[jakejon 1,197]

22 hours ago, crono_clone said:

For a K1 visa holder applying for AOS, how important is it to have the evidence of bona fide marriage? I have everything else I need now (like the certified copy of marriage certificate that I was waiting on) except for that.

 

We applied for his SSN almost a month ago and it still hasn't come in, so I haven't been able to put him on my lease, bank account, insurance, etc. And without those, my only evidence would be photographs of our wedding and of living together, which from experience is just "secondary" evidence.

 

And because of how long this process is currently taking, we'd like to file as soon as possible to get the clock started, but not if it means a possible RFE or rejection. So what have other people in here done? Do we absolutely need that evidence, or is it really only important for applying for Removal of Conditions?

Hey! It's all down to personal preference. As many touch on, a marriage certificate is only really needed. However, we preferred personally (even though there's no requirement) to add more evidences of joint accounts, health insurance, car insurance, lease with me added on etc. As I say no requirement to do so but it's up to you. Of course, at the interview we will submit a lot more additional evidence. Good luck  

Edited March 6, 2019 by jakejon

[Loren Y 2,755]

But, this is USCIS, so who knows, I just filed AOS and loaded up my petition with all the goodies hopefully to avoid an interview. Oh well, guess I'll get my 1225 worth of work out of USCIS.

[jakejon 1,197]

Just now, Loren Y said:

But, this is USCIS, so who knows, I just filed AOS and loaded up my petition with all the goodies hopefully to avoid an interview. Oh well, guess I'll get my 1225 worth of work out of USCIS.

Oh your Las Vegas like me- so wander if I'll even get an interview this year LOL. NOA1 11/27/18. But I agree-it's all personal preference on loading  

[ThomasNC1988 762]

5 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

But, this is USCIS, so who knows, I just filed AOS and loaded up my petition with all the goodies hopefully to avoid an interview. Oh well, guess I'll get my 1225 worth of work out of USCIS.

Hope we have no hard feelings. Good news is they released an update a month or two ago that has been interpreted to mean they can waive ROC interview if you had an AOS interview, but you're right they are not very predictable.

[Liflead 112]

1 hour ago, crono_clone said:

We applied before marriage, just 1 week after POE. 

 

It's been about 4 weeks since we applied and I'm hoping it comes any day now.

I hope you get it soon. Is it true that once the beneficiary's entry in the US is on the SAVE system then the SSN office issues it quickly otherwise it goes for manual verification with USCIS? Did u check on the SAVE system before applying for SSN?

[Loren Y 2,755]

10 minutes ago, ThomasNC1988 said:

Hope we have no hard feelings. Good news is they released an update a month or two ago that has been interpreted to mean they can waive ROC interview if you had an AOS interview, but you're right they are not very predictable.

No, who can keep track of what they do. I am so mind boggled after all the reasearching I do Everytime I go to file a petition, I am amazed that anyone gets a green card or citizenship.

That would be cool if I could avoid the ROC interview, I've already added enough proof of comingled everything that I could do the ROC interview tomorrow if needed.

Edited March 6, 2019 by Loren Y

[Loren Y 2,755]

1 hour ago, crono_clone said:

We applied before marriage, just 1 week after POE. 

 

It's been about 4 weeks since we applied and I'm hoping it comes any day now.

We applied 1 day after entry, my fiancee information was in the save system, and we had the card exactly 2 weeks after applying. This was back in November, the day before Thanksgiving actually we applied. So even with the holiday in there it was only 2 weeks.