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Hi,

 

I applied for removal of conditions on residency for my wife. We got an RFE stating that the filing of i-751 was late. Here are the facts:

 

Conditional GC Expiry date: 11/19/2017

Receipt Date on the I-751 receipt notice:  11/14/2017

 

In the RFE they mention that your form i-751 was filed on 11/21/2017. We also received correspondence from USICS regarding our application last year about the case being transferred to another center. The Receipt Date on that notice is 11/14/2017 as well. Finally, the filing fee was deducted from the bank account on 11/17/2017 (we paid via check).

 

My question is that did I make a mistake? Since from what I know, you have 90 days to file the application before the Conditional GC expires. How should I respond to this RFE? Should I pay a lawyer or do I have enough evidence to tell USCIS that they messed up their dates. I would greatly appreciate your insight. Thanks!

 

Regards,

James

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Thailand
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Posted

First thing first:

 

The RFE must be responded to, regardless of whether the fact sides with you or USCIS.  You cannot call or visit a local office to resolve RFE.  RFE can only be closed out by the officer who issues it, or by subsequent officers if the file is later transferred internally.  Therefore, the RFE must be responded timely to the issuing Service Center.

 

Second:

 

RFE is specific in terms of what USCIS needs you to do.  In most I-751 cases, it takes over a year for someone to get to the file after it was filed.

 

Assuming that USCIS has misunderstood that you filed I-751 late, and that the RFE requests for your explanation, you should draft a simple one page letter stating the fact you just tell us here with supporting documents (the expired GC and the I-751 receipt date).  Highlight clearly that you have filed prior to the expiration date of the green card and that you believe this is a misunderstanding.

 

If your RFE actually asks for additional evidence for “good faith” marriage, which is a common (standard almost) for most people who have received one, then send any additional evidence you may have.

 

Third:

 

Based on the fact you told us here, it is clearly you are in the right — meaning you filed with 90 days of your 2nd anniversary (aka GC expiration date) and not after.  What generally happens for people who actually file late is, the file MUST include a letter explaning the “good cause” for late filing — serious illness, financial hardship etc. — and most cases are accepted with a short letter scolding the applicants that “USCIS doesn’t have to accept this, but considering your good cause, the Service Center Director has determined that your late filing can be accepted. Blah blah blah.”

Posted

A (brief) letter, stating they are incorrect.

Enclose a print of tracking delivery, copy of receipt with date highlighted, and a bank statement showing date the cheque was cashed.

 

It should be done with then, but this is USCIS...🙄

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Posted

I like GBOS's word "misunderstanding" rather than "mistake".  Just state the facts, and add that if there is any further question to let you know and you will respond immediately.

 

Best of luck!

 

Sukie in NY

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

Posted

Looks like an oversight on the i751 adjudicator's part.  Respond to the RFE with 

 

1.Copy of the receipt notice

2.Copy of the Transfer notice

3.Copy of the cashed check

4.If available, copy of any USPS/FedEx receipts showing package mailed or received on xx date. 

5.Anything else the RFE asks for. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

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Posted
On 2/26/2019 at 9:33 PM, JamesQ said:

Hi,

 

I applied for removal of conditions on residency for my wife. We got an RFE stating that the filing of i-751 was late. Here are the facts:

 

Conditional GC Expiry date: 11/19/2017

Receipt Date on the I-751 receipt notice:  11/14/2017

 

In the RFE they mention that your form i-751 was filed on 11/21/2017. We also received correspondence from USICS regarding our application last year about the case being transferred to another center. The Receipt Date on that notice is 11/14/2017 as well. Finally, the filing fee was deducted from the bank account on 11/17/2017 (we paid via check).

 

My question is that did I make a mistake? Since from what I know, you have 90 days to file the application before the Conditional GC expires. How should I respond to this RFE? Should I pay a lawyer or do I have enough evidence to tell USCIS that they messed up their dates. I would greatly appreciate your insight. Thanks!

 

Regards,

James

Hi James,

Could you update on how your RFE process went? We just got the same RFE stating that we filed 70 days late, while in fact we filed 67 days early. Could you let us know what you sent and what was the outcome?

 

thanks!

01-16-2016: AOS package sent

01-09-2017: AOS (I-130 and I-485) granted

10-31-2018: I-751 filed

01-25-2019 NOA received (Extension letter, Biometrics waiver letter)

10-19-2019 Biometrics letter received

10-30-2019 Biometrics to be completed

 
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