Would our ROC Evidence be enough?

[hjha 4]

Hi Everyone, 

 

We will have to send our ROC package in a few weeks, so we just wanted to get other people's feedback on the evidence we are planning to send, and whether it would be enough for our ROC to get approved. We are planning to send the following: 

 

·       Copy of the marriage certificate between LPR and USC

·       Copy of a Residential Lease Agreement listing us as joint tenants at xxxxxxx; the ”Old City Address”, beginning October 1, 2016.  This lease was a month-to-month lease and was renewed on October 1, 2017.

·       Copy of the Lease Renewal stating both our names the “Old City Address” with October 1, 2017 as the renewal date.

·       Copy of the Notice of Intent to Vacate the “Old City Address” sent to the landlord on March 1, 2018 and signed by LPR and USC indicating a move out date of March 31, 2018.

·       Copy of LPR Old City driver license showing residence at the “Old City Address”

·       Copy of LPR valid passport issued on November 2, 2017, showing residence at the “Old City Address”

·       A copy of LPR and USC February 2018 paystub, prior to relocating showing residence at the “Old City Address”

·       Copy of Utility bills at the “Old Address” showing both of our names

·       Copy of the New City Rental Lease Agreement listing us as joint tenants at xxxxxxxxxxxx; the “New City Address”, beginning on April 1, 2018 and ending on October 31, 2019. 

·       Copies of utility bills showing both our names responsible for paying the electric bill in our New City Address

·       Copies of the internet and gas bills showing  USC as responsible for paying internet and gas in our joint New City Address

·       Copy of the New City State Certificate of Title showing USC as the owner of our car with our joint New City Address

·       Copy of a verification letter from  Bank showing both of our names under the same account number that was opened on March 7, 2018. We had a joint account prior to that date with  Bank, however, we were not able to obtain information on that account since it was closed because of an identity theft incident, which has been reported to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and Federal Trade Commission (FTC).

·       Copy of LPR and USC FTC reports with a personal statement indicating the identity theft incident and showing our joint Old City Address

·       Copy of USC and LPR 14039 Identity Theft Affidavits that was submitted to the IRS.

·       Copies of monthly bank statements of our joint checking account with X Bank since inception of the account on March 7, 2018 after the identity theft incident, showing various financial co-mingling such as rent payments, groceries, utilities, and car insurance payments, etc.

·       Copies of monthly bank statements of our savings account with Y Bank since inception of the account on June 24, 2017, which shows USC and LPR as the joint owner of the account.

·       Copies of the X Bank credit cards of LPR and USC ending with the same 4 digits (xxxx), and a copy of a verification letter provided by X Bank on February 16, 2019 indicating joint ownership of the credit card account since inception on January 15, 2017.

·       Copies of the Y Bank credit cards of LPR and USC ending with the same 4 digits (xxx), and a copy of a verification letter provided by Y Bank on February 22, 2019 indicating LPR as the account owner and USC as the authorized user.

·       Copies of the auto insurance cards directed to USC and LPR and mailed to our joint New City Address.

·       Copy of the Life Insurance policy showing LPR as the insured and USC as the beneficiary; we don’t have joint health care insurance since USC is 25 years old and can remain on her parents’ health insurance which is free of charge for us.

·       Copy of April 9, 2018 Beneficiary Confirmation Notice for the remaining of 2018 benefits showing USC as the beneficiary of LPR’s Accidental Death & Disability (AD&D) and life insurance policies, which are provided through the workplace of LPR since he started working there. 

·       Copy of December 5, 2018 Beneficiary Confirmation Notice for 2019 workplace benefits showing USC as the beneficiary of LPR's Company 401 (k) Plan, AD&D, and life insurance policies, which are provided through the workplace of LPR.

·       Copy of the Company 401 (k) Plan Account along with copies of 2018-Q3 and Q4 of Halim Abourachid indicating our joint New City Address and showing USC as the beneficiary.

·       Copy of LPR  ROTH IRA account, which was open on January 3, 2019, showing our joint New City Address and indicating USC as the beneficiary.

·       Copy of USC Fidelity ROTH IRA account, which was open on January 3, 2019, showing our joint New City Address and indicating LPR as the beneficiary.

·       Copy of 2016, 2017, and 2018 Tax Returns. 

·       Copy of flight tickets, gifts, cards, and booking of planned vacation. 

·       Copy of Verizon Plan Information showing LPR's device in the family Plan of father in law. 

·       Copy of renters insurance policy (active from Jan 2019) and showing both our names and our new city address

 

Is there anything else we should add? Would the above be enough for USCIS? 

 

Thanks everyone

Edited February 24, 2019 by hjha

[controlla 104]

You know this is more than enough.

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

Ok do you have a dog? If you can send copy of the dog adoption paperwork that show both of you are owners, that will complete this file. 

 

Sarcasm aside, I amost think this is too much. If it was me, I would just go with the current lease, drop the whole FTC thing, drop the Verizon, renter policy, auto insurance, and just 3 months of bank statements. But that’s just me.

Edited February 24, 2019 by USS_Voyager

[millefleur 5,046]

That is a lot. A couple things to me just don't seem necessary. If the gas bill and internet bill is only in one name, seems like you have other utility bills in both names, so this seems like overkill. Same goes for the Verizon bill. Also, regarding the identity theft case, maybe just one piece of evidence from that is enough and then explain what happened in a cover letter?

 

 

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

Yes, please rethink some of these things and trim down some. For example, do not send them 2 years worth of bank statements, that’s is just way way overkill. Maximum 3 months. You don’t want to piss off the adjudicting officer, who has to go through God knows how many of these cases a day. Make life easier for them, they will appreciate it.

[Sukie 1,463]

Unfortunately, no one here can tell you what is enough and what isn't.  I believe you have plenty. 

15 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

Yes, please rethink some of these things and trim down some. For example, do not send them 2 years worth of bank statements, that’s is just way way overkill. Maximum 3 months. You don’t want to piss off the adjudicting officer, who has to go through God knows how many of these cases a day. Make life easier for them, they will appreciate it.

USS_Voyager, please be careful in what you say.  They should send bank statements from either the inception of the joint account, or from their marriage date.  I agree that not everyone needs to send ALL statements, but they should cover the time since marriage (or the beginning of the account if started after marriage) - not just "3 months".  The OP has lots of joint data, so perhaps quarterly statements will be adequate.  BUT, there are cases where even every statement might be seen as not enough - if no transactions showing use exist.

 

Sukie in NY

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

11 minutes ago, Sukie said:

Unfortunately, no one here can tell you what is enough and what isn't.  I believe you have plenty. 

USS_Voyager, please be careful in what you say.  They should send bank statements from either the inception of the joint account, or from their marriage date.  I agree that not everyone needs to send ALL statements, but they should cover the time since marriage (or the beginning of the account if started after marriage) - not just "3 months".  The OP has lots of joint data, so perhaps quarterly statements will be adequate.  BUT, there are cases where even every statement might be seen as not enough - if no transactions showing use exist.

 

Sukie in NY

Clearly that is not the case here. She mentioned statements that have everything in it such as rent payments, grocery shopping, utilities bills, ... I have helped several family members do ROC and we never sent more than 3 statements. But OP, again, you can send what you feel is right. 

Edited February 24, 2019 by USS_Voyager