LUFTHANSA SUES PASSENGER FOR NOT TAKING BOOKED FLIGHT

[TBoneTX 45,284]

13 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

trying to understand airline pricing is on par with trying to understand tax law.

IF AIRLINES SOLD PAINT  (author unknown)

CUSTOMER:  Hi.  How much is your paint?
CLERK:  Well, sir, that all depends on quite a lot of things.
CUSTOMER:  Can you give me a guess?  Is there an average price?

CLERK:  Our lowest price is $12 a gallon, and we have 60 different prices up to $200 a gallon.

CUSTOMER:  What's the difference in the paint?
CLERK:  Oh, there isn't any difference.  It's all the same paint.
CUSTOMER:  Well, then, I'd like some of that $12 paint.
CLERK:  When do you intend to use the paint?
CUSTOMER:  I want to paint tomorrow.  It's my day off.
CLERK:  Sir, the paint for tomorrow is the $200 paint.
CUSTOMER:  When would I have to paint to get the $12 paint?

CLERK:  You would have to start very late at night in about three weeks.  But you will have to agree to start painting before Friday of that week and continue painting until at least Sunday.

CUSTOMER:  You've got to be kidding!
CLERK:  I'll check and see if we've got any paint available.
CUSTOMER:  You have shelves FULL of paint!  I can see it!

CLERK:  But it doesn't mean that we have paint available.  We sell only a certain number of gallons on any given weekend.  Oh, and by the way, the price per gallon just went to $16.  We don't have any more $12 paint.

CUSTOMER:  The price went up as we were talking?

CLERK:  Yes, sir.  We change the prices and rules hundreds of times a day, and since you haven't actually walked out of the store with your paint yet, we just decided to change.  I suggest that you purchase your paint as soon as possible.  How many gallons do you want?

CUSTOMER:  Well, maybe five gallons.  Make that six, so I'll have enough.

CLERK:  Oh no, sir; you can't do that.  If you buy paint and don't use it, there are penalties and possible confiscation of the paint that you already have.

CUSTOMER:  WHAT?

CLERK:  We can sell enough paint to do your kitchen, bathroom, hall, and north bedroom, but if you stop painting before you do the bedroom, you will lose your remaining gallons of paint.

CUSTOMER:  What does it matter whether I use all the paint?  I already paid you for it!

CLERK:  We make plans based upon the idea that all our paint is used, every drop.  If you don't, it causes us all sorts of problems.

CUSTOMER:  This is crazy!  I suppose that something terrible happens if I don't keep painting until after Saturday night!

CLERK:  Oh, yes!  Every gallon that you bought automatically becomes the $200 paint.

CUSTOMER:  But what are all these 'Paint on sale from $10 a liter' signs?

CLERK:  Well, that's for our budget paint.  It comes only in half-gallons.  One $5 half-gallon will do half a room.  The second half-gallon to complete the room is $20.  None of the cans have labels; some are empty; and there are no refunds, even on the empty cans.

CUSTOMER:  To hell with this!  I'll buy what I need somewhere else!

CLERK:  I don't think so, sir.  You may be able to buy paint for your bathroom and bedrooms, and your kitchen and dining room from someone else, but you won't be able to paint your connecting hall and stairway with paint from anyone but us.  And I should point out, sir, that if you paint in only one direction, it will be $300 a gallon.

CUSTOMER:  I thought that your most expensive paint was $200!

CLERK:  That's if you paint around the room to the point at which you started.  A hallway is different.

CUSTOMER:  And if I buy $200 paint for the hall, but I paint only in one direction, you'll confiscate the remaining paint.

CLERK:  No; we'll charge you an extra-use fee plus the difference on your next gallon of paint.  But I believe you're getting it now, sir.

CUSTOMER:  You're insane!

CLERK:  Thanks for painting with American.

[OriZ 3,157]

17 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Depends if the contract of carriage holds up in court or not. Luthansa's says if you intentionally miss any leg of a flight itinerary, they may bill you the listed price for the ones you used. It's standard in a lot of carriage contracts, but I'm not sure it's ever been enforced by anyone.

 

  There is no similar situation at a restaurant since there is no contract agreed to ahead of time. On the other hand, we saw some people leave before their meal arrived recently when we were out to eat. It was busy and I think they couldn't wait any longer. Made me wonder if people order at a restaurant and leave before the meal arrives, would the restaurant have a legal case against them in court to pay for the meal. The argument for the customer would be don't let so many people in if you cant serve the meal in a reasonable time. 

Absolutely a no brainer imo, if the restaurant takes too long that's on them and anyone should be able/allowed to leave. 

 

This Lufthansa thing...wonder who decided this was a beneficial business practice. I'd fire them on the spot.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Having a hard time understanding the logic. He paid for something and did not use it. Why would they care 

[Dashinka 24,493]

44 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Having a hard time understanding the logic. He paid for something and did not use it. Why would they care 

Reference TBone's post above.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Having a hard time understanding the logic. He paid for something and did not use it. Why would they care 

They shouldn't. It's an attempt at customer intimidation.   People flying do this all the time for many reasons, not always to get the lowest fare.  I know I have been on a plane flying XXX-YYY-ZZZ, and got off at YYY and stayed, as well as having jumped on another plane to JJJ.  Plans change.

 

And if a customer buys a round trip ticket to save money, then shame on the airline for selling round trip tickets for less.  If I'm shopping for a car, and two identical, brand new cars are offered at different prices, you bet I'll pay less for the same car.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

They shouldn't. It's an attempt at customer intimidation.   People flying do this all the time for many reasons, not always to get the lowest fare.  I know I have been on a plane flying XXX-YYY-ZZZ, and got off at YYY and stayed, as well as having jumped on another plane to JJJ.  Plans change.

 

And if a customer buys a round trip ticket to save money, then shame on the airline for selling round trip tickets for less.  If I'm shopping for a car, and two identical, brand new cars are offered at different prices, you bet I'll pay less for the same car.

 

   Seriously, this should come up in court. Like with TBones example. They charge 30 different prices for the same thing and want to blame the customer for buying the cheapest. The judge needs to grill them on where this business model even came from.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

9 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

They shouldn't. It's an attempt at customer intimidation.   People flying do this all the time for many reasons, not always to get the lowest fare.  I know I have been on a plane flying XXX-YYY-ZZZ, and got off at YYY and stayed, as well as having jumped on another plane to JJJ.  Plans change.

 

And if a customer buys a round trip ticket to save money, then shame on the airline for selling round trip tickets for less.  If I'm shopping for a car, and two identical, brand new cars are offered at different prices, you bet I'll pay less for the same car.

Exactly.  I wll ad that sometimes I will pay more for service 

Edited February 13, 2019 by Nature Boy 2.0

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Having a hard time understanding the logic. He paid for something and did not use it. Why would they care 

 

   Very hard to find logic in a situation where logic does not apply.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

Absolutely a no brainer imo, if the restaurant takes too long that's on them and anyone should be able/allowed to leave. 

 

This Lufthansa thing...wonder who decided this was a beneficial business practice. I'd fire them on the spot.

 

  I agree. I think most restaurants work this way intuitively. Seems to be an industry with an actual emphasis on customer service and retention (in most cases). Reading online and it seems it's not uncommon to even get the drinks comp'ed if people choose to leave because of delay or questionable service. 

 

  Now if restaurants worked like airlines, they would charge you for the meal you didn't get, the dessert they think you would have ordered, the time you occupied the table, and the number of drinks you might have had multiplied by the average time you spent waiting. 

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,284]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

Now if restaurants worked like airlines, they would charge you for the meal you didn't get, the dessert they think you would have ordered, the time you occupied the table, and the number of drinks you might have had multiplied by the average time you spent waiting

Plus $25 per pants pocket for carry-on baggage.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

Plus $25 per pants pocket for carry-on baggage.

 

  To realistically reflect airline practice, it would be $25 per pocket if you paid at the time of reservation. If you don't pay until the hostess is seating you, it would be $50. If you don't state your intention to wear pants until you arrive at your table, it would be a $100 charge, but you would have the option to have the charge waived if you agree to eat wearing only your underwear. Your pants would be returned to you after you exit the restaurant.

[TBoneTX 45,284]

Airlines have launched a summer fare-war, with some tickets as low as $25.
  * However, it'll cost you an extra $200 to land.
  * At these prices, airlines will be swamped.  So be prepared to bring your own peanuts, lose your own luggage, and act rude to a fellow passenger.

[TBoneTX 45,284]

CAJUN AIRLINES

     Pierre and Boudreaux was flyin Cajun Airlines to da Mardi Gras.  Boudreaux was flyin da plane and Pierre was in da back foolin wit da cargo equipment an stuff.
     Da plane hit some turbulence an start bouncin around an Boudreaux got knock unconscious.  Den da plane start driftin.  Pierre come run up to da front an Boudreaux was sprawl out over da steerin wheel.
     Well, Pierre don't know nuttin bout flyin an he start to get panaky.  He grab da microphone and holla "May Day!  May Day!  Dis is Cajun Airline 90210.  Boudreaux, him knock unconscious an I don know nuttin about flyin dis plane!"
     "Dis is da control tower," someone answer.  "Doan you worry about nuttin.  We gonna splain how you to land dis plane, step by step, ah gar-own-tee!  Jus leave anyting ta us.  Fus, how high you are an whas you position?"
     Pierre think a minute, den say, "I'm five foot ten an I'm all da way to da front of da plane."
     "No! No!" answer da tower.  "What you altitude an where you location?"
     Pierre say, "Man ah got a po attitude, an I'm from Thibodeaux!"
     "No! No! No!" came an exasperated voice.  "Ah needs to know how many feet you got off da groun an how you plane in relation to da airport!"
     Pierre he start to panic by dis time.  He say, "Countin Boudreaux's an mine, we got four feet off da groun an I don believe dis plane related to you airport!"
     A long pause... de silence was deafenin.  "We needs to know who you next of kin."

[TBoneTX 45,284]

13 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

To realistically reflect airline practice, it would be $25 per pocket if you paid at the time of reservation. If you don't pay until the hostess is seating you, it would be $50. If you don't state your intention to wear pants until you arrive at your table, it would be a $100 charge, but you would have the option to have the charge waived if you agree to eat wearing only your underwear. Your pants would be returned to you after you exit the restaurant.

You need, if you haven't, to contribute to this august poll*, see man:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/249659-wedgies-si-man/

In fact, so does everyone, si man.

 

*even if it's only February

Edited February 14, 2019 by TBoneTX

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

You need, if you haven't, to contribute to this august poll*, see man:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/249659-wedgies-si-man/

In fact, so does everyone, si man.

 

*even if it's only February

 

   Dang it. I should have known what would happen if I mentioned underwear.