*** K-3 May and June 2007 Filers ***

[Divine Mercy 0]

Divine,

You can have both horses in the race for a while. The I130 will not be held back unless the I129F and I130 were approved at the same time (which still might be the case, happened to SumonLopa, but the I129F email came 2 days later). The I129F will still be processed at the USCIS service center. The I130 will make its way to the NVC. If money is not a problem (as lets face it paying the CR-1 fees might be a waste of $$ if your I129F gets approved soon), you can continue to responsed to the NVC and pay the fees, etc. and keep that going. Once the I129F is approved, it too goes to NVC for a much shorter stay.

The race must end if the I130 gets on station at the embassy/consulate. At that point they will not schedule a K3 interview for your husband. If the I129F gets there first, and you schedule the K3 interview, and if you keep the CR-1 stuff going through NVC, if it gets to the embassy/consulate before the scheduled K3 interview, they will conduct a CR-1 interview at the scheduled CR-1 time (that is assuming they are at the same consulate, which is not the case for RocksAnne; as one goes to Vancouver and the other to Montreal).

Cheers.

I take the fork and go get a hamburger , but to answer your question... isn't good to have two applications going at the same time? Will having the K-3 process still going slow down the NVC process for the I-130? It should be different paths, so the I-130 shouldn't wait for the I-129F.. I don't know.. otherwise, you can just call the USCIS to cancel the I-129F (maybe there is a form you have to fill out?)..

I don't know either can they both be going at the same time? how much will that cost?? I'd pay anything to get him here faster but if I don't have it then I don't have it ya know? I know we're all in the same boat in terms of missing our SOs so I don't need to stress what I would do to have him see his son and meet my family or just to see his gorgeous face up close in real life again. If riding two waves is possible I'll do that and just see where I end up. I'm wondering if the I-130 will be put on hold because I put on it that I was filing it for the I-129F. Maybe they wont forward it to the NVC. Who knows? When the time comes, will the embassy schedule him for two interviews (one for the K3 and one for the CR-1) and we can choose to take the first one?

too many questions

OMG MUAH!! thank you thank you thank you! This is exactly the kind of answer I have been looking for ALL DAY! They will both be at the Lagos Consulate so no worries there. The only issue is that the CR1 interviews are supposedly scheduled MUCH further in the future than the K3 interviews. Once I get more details on that, we'll make our decision. Lagos is notoriously slow.

Now I guess the question is, if I ignore any correspondence from the NVC regarding bills and such, will they just forget the CR1 but keep the approved file? What happens to it from there? Won't it be needed again when he does finally arrive here?

[Urge To Race 2]

If you take your time responding to something, it is fine (you know just to slow it down a bit if you see some touches on the I129F or something). But if your I129F is approved and you go with the K3, then you will have to write to the NVC to send the petition back to USCIS service center to be held for your AOS. If you just don't respond at all they might consider it abandoned, which is another problem altogether.

Divine,

You can have both horses in the race for a while. The I130 will not be held back unless the I129F and I130 were approved at the same time (which still might be the case, happened to SumonLopa, but the I129F email came 2 days later). The I129F will still be processed at the USCIS service center. The I130 will make its way to the NVC. If money is not a problem (as lets face it paying the CR-1 fees might be a waste of $$ if your I129F gets approved soon), you can continue to responsed to the NVC and pay the fees, etc. and keep that going. Once the I129F is approved, it too goes to NVC for a much shorter stay.

The race must end if the I130 gets on station at the embassy/consulate. At that point they will not schedule a K3 interview for your husband. If the I129F gets there first, and you schedule the K3 interview, and if you keep the CR-1 stuff going through NVC, if it gets to the embassy/consulate before the scheduled K3 interview, they will conduct a CR-1 interview at the scheduled CR-1 time (that is assuming they are at the same consulate, which is not the case for RocksAnne; as one goes to Vancouver and the other to Montreal).

Cheers.

I take the fork and go get a hamburger , but to answer your question... isn't good to have two applications going at the same time? Will having the K-3 process still going slow down the NVC process for the I-130? It should be different paths, so the I-130 shouldn't wait for the I-129F.. I don't know.. otherwise, you can just call the USCIS to cancel the I-129F (maybe there is a form you have to fill out?)..

I don't know either can they both be going at the same time? how much will that cost?? I'd pay anything to get him here faster but if I don't have it then I don't have it ya know? I know we're all in the same boat in terms of missing our SOs so I don't need to stress what I would do to have him see his son and meet my family or just to see his gorgeous face up close in real life again. If riding two waves is possible I'll do that and just see where I end up. I'm wondering if the I-130 will be put on hold because I put on it that I was filing it for the I-129F. Maybe they wont forward it to the NVC. Who knows? When the time comes, will the embassy schedule him for two interviews (one for the K3 and one for the CR-1) and we can choose to take the first one?

too many questions

OMG MUAH!! thank you thank you thank you! This is exactly the kind of answer I have been looking for ALL DAY! They will both be at the Lagos Consulate so no worries there. The only issue is that the CR1 interviews are supposedly scheduled MUCH further in the future than the K3 interviews. Once I get more details on that, we'll make our decision. Lagos is notoriously slow.

Now I guess the question is, if I ignore any correspondence from the NVC regarding bills and such, will they just forget the CR1 but keep the approved file? What happens to it from there? Won't it be needed again when he does finally arrive here?

[raj0327 0]

Divine Mercy, I think the charts you link to are not providing an accurate read of the recent events since they average over a long time horizon. In other words, the recent backlog in 129F approvals is not represented properly by these charts as it is diluted by more prompt approvals that occurred earlier in the year. You need to look at the detailed timeline search. Here are some observations.

Members who had their I-129F approved in:

Jan 2007. 5 members in VSC approved in 57 days and 5 members in CSC approved in 107 days (CSC twice as slow!)

Feb 2007. 6 members in VSC approved in 47 days and 20 members in CSC approved in 90 days (both improved)

Mar 2007. 7 members in VSC approved in 67 days and 4 members in CSC approved in 121 days (both slowed down)

Apr 2007. 6 members in VSC approved in 45 days and 30 members in CSC approved in 84 days (both improved especially CSC)

May 2007. 8 members in VSC approved in 84 days and 8 members in CSC approved in 84 days (CSC stays consistent but VSC slows down a lot and matched CSC)

Jun 2007. 6 members in VSC approved in 151 days and 6 members in CSC approved in 116 days (both slow down but VSC is stalling!)

not sure how to explain this

You explained it wonderfully! Thank you. It sucks but thank u for reporting the news as it is.

How's this for a trend for ya...

My I-130 was approved yesterday!!!!! (July 16, 2007, notified via email) I'm the 3rd member here going through the VSC and the 3rd approval from the VSC! With the new information regarding how slow the VSC is going with the K3 approvals.. i'm really going to have to do some research to see if abandoning the K3 is the right option for us. It seems, based on the VJ stats, that the interview will take MUCH longer to get with a CR-1 than with a K3. I need to find out how accurate that is. It is still so exciting to see something big happening!!! I got a touch on the I-130 today (july 17) after the approval. hmmmm.

CONGRATS Divine Mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Divine Mercy 0]

If you take your time responding to something, it is fine (you know just to slow it down a bit if you see some touches on the I129F or something). But if your I129F is approved and you go with the K3, then you will have to write to the NVC to send the petition back to USCIS service center to be held for your AOS. If you just don't respond at all they might consider it abandoned, which is another problem altogether.

eek no we wouldn't want that problem!

You are officially the immigration yoda. I must be google deficient, I have looked all day for this information and there it was in your head. I can't thank you enough!!!

[G&A 1]

[edp333 9]

@ Divine Mercy,

I read in a recent thread where it was suggested to prepare the paperwork for the approved I-130 and delay paying the fees. I see some advantages to this suggestion:

1. You will be more prepared to go either route.

2. It will give your more time to research and analyze your choices.

3. The I-129F will become closer to being approved or may be approved during this time.

Something to consider.

[Urge To Race 2]

If you take your time responding to something, it is fine (you know just to slow it down a bit if you see some touches on the I129F or something). But if your I129F is approved and you go with the K3, then you will have to write to the NVC to send the petition back to USCIS service center to be held for your AOS. If you just don't respond at all they might consider it abandoned, which is another problem altogether.

eek no we wouldn't want that problem!

You are officially the immigration yoda. I must be google deficient, I have looked all day for this information and there it was in your head. I can't thank you enough!!!

Your welcome! Glad I could help

[Catou1181 0]

Hi Guys,

Not sure if this has been posted here recently but for whatever its worth, the new BS processing dates on the USCIS website are out as of yesterday. Not like I care in any way or form about them but just wanted to post it here if someone's keeping track of them:

https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp

Regards,

Pkewl

I find it weird that they still don't have a processing date for the I-129f K3/K4 at the CSC.

[pkewl 0]

Hi Guys,

Not sure if this has been posted here recently but for whatever its worth, the new BS processing dates on the USCIS website are out as of yesterday. Not like I care in any way or form about them but just wanted to post it here if someone's keeping track of them:

https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/ptimes.jsp

Regards,

Pkewl

I find it weird that they still don't have a processing date for the I-129f K3/K4 at the CSC.

I have wondered about that so many times... Dont know the answer to that... I mean its ironic that USCIS keeps on touting that we would like to provide our customers with an accurate status of their application yet they have so many discrepencies and so much incompetency in all of their working areas... I do understand that its a huge and complex agency with a lot of apps... but come on.. its not like they dont charge us... besides I m sure that there other agencies/companies in this world of the same size, probably even bigger, and they probably operate much better..

Okay I m thru with my USCIS rant... sorry

Good Luck to everyone with their VJ..

Regards,

Pkewl

[LoveHimMuch 0]

The main/most asked question in my head as well as others is,

Why all this time, if there is 5000 or 10000 visas to be given this year to spouses, then just give them, but to take all this process time, and torturing people doesn’t make any freaking sense,

And I don’t think it’s because of good employee and slow bad ones, this can be a fraction to the reason for all this delays, I use to work in a place (not government but private, and not applications but rather some other critical work) and we use to process 15000 case in one shift, and our accuracy is way way way better then USCIS, I think the issue is a bit bigger, specially this year.

I think of it and say, isn’t the politician, both Democrat and Republican, but specially this administration are all about benefiting the corporate at any cause, even if it mint to break the law, twist it, stretch it, I mean come on look around and see a war can be declared to help big hungry corporate from collapsing, so if politician put the corporate first then the citizens, and they always try to cover their dirty work, then I wouldn’t be surprise if they put someone from minority as the head of immigration, but yet they do their Corporate comes first agenda, so that they try to pass new laws or twist/stretch the current law to fit this agenda, so let’s give as much as needed employment visas, and process those faster, so that they get to the NVC and get the visas before the family visa, and try to slow down the family visa, and they can be creative about it, one of which is to not send the NOA1 that made a lot of people delay sending their I129F, and the funny thing is that they claim there has been a system problem, come on how long does it take to fix such important system, 2 to 3 months, people aren’t dumb,

I don’t know I could be wrong, , but this waiting thing DOS NOT MAKE ANY SANSE AT ALL , if no visas available this year we can wait, but don’t keep us busy with filling hundreds of papers and spending more time searching, asking, surfing, making statistics and get crazy and at the end you tell us we have a big volume of applications or the system has been broken ..etc lame excuses I DON’T BUY IT

some times I think to go to him and leave this country.

I love him and I can't wait to see him

[Divine Mercy 0]

@ Divine Mercy,

I read in a recent thread where it was suggested to prepare the paperwork for the approved I-130 and delay paying the fees. I see some advantages to this suggestion:

1. You will be more prepared to go either route.

2. It will give your more time to research and analyze your choices.

3. The I-129F will become closer to being approved or may be approved during this time.

Something to consider.

Thank you, I agree. After studying the charts and talking to a few people, I think the best possible scenario would be to keep the I-130 going but not too fast. Pray the K3 gets to the embassy first then the I-130 meets it there and the K3 interview (which is scheduled about 3 months in advance) will be replaced by the CR-1 Interview (which by itself is scheduled almost a year.. 320 odd days... in advance). That is, of course, the best case scenario and not a gaurantee. The I-130 could beat the K3 to the embassy in which case I will have to wait almost a year for an interview. The USCIS might hold onto my I-129F if they think I'm going to abandon it (it's happened to others) and I'll be forced into the CR-1 which will be NOT GOOD... There aren't many stats in VJ to work off of when it comes to the CR-1 in Nigeria. There is only one case listed that has gone to the interview stage this year! (for that person the NOA2 - the Interview date was roughly 10 months) That makes me wonder why so many people don't pursue the CR-1 in Nigeria.. probably because the interview wait is so bad.

[Divine Mercy 0]

The main/most asked question in my head as well as others is,

Why all this time, if there is 5000 or 10000 visas to be given this year to spouses, then just give them, but to take all this process time, and torturing people doesn’t make any freaking sense,

And I don’t think it’s because of good employee and slow bad ones, this can be a fraction to the reason for all this delays, I use to work in a place (not government but private, and not applications but rather some other critical work) and we use to process 15000 case in one shift, and our accuracy is way way way better then USCIS, I think the issue is a bit bigger, specially this year.

I think of it and say, isn’t the politician, both Democrat and Republican, but specially this administration are all about benefiting the corporate at any cause, even if it mint to break the law, twist it, stretch it, I mean come on look around and see a war can be declared to help big hungry corporate from collapsing, so if politician put the corporate first then the citizens, and they always try to cover their dirty work, then I wouldn’t be surprise if they put someone from minority as the head of immigration, but yet they do their Corporate comes first agenda, so that they try to pass new laws or twist/stretch the current law to fit this agenda, so let’s give as much as needed employment visas, and process those faster, so that they get to the NVC and get the visas before the family visa, and try to slow down the family visa, and they can be creative about it, one of which is to not send the NOA1 that made a lot of people delay sending their I129F, and the funny thing is that they claim there has been a system problem, come on how long does it take to fix such important system, 2 to 3 months, people aren’t dumb,

I don’t know I could be wrong, , but this waiting thing DOS NOT MAKE ANY SANSE AT ALL , if no visas available this year we can wait, but don’t keep us busy with filling hundreds of papers and spending more time searching, asking, surfing, making statistics and get crazy and at the end you tell us we have a big volume of applications or the system has been broken ..etc lame excuses I DON’T BUY IT

some times I think to go to him and leave this country.

I love him and I can't wait to see him

There was an interesting thread posted which was a guy applying for a K1. This guy happened to have worked at one of the service centers and he gives some insight into what actually goes on in there.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...55762&st=45

I suppose this isn't exactly the proper place to vent but you have provided the opportunity. If someone doesn't want to hear it please skip to the next post (mod please delete this if it's inappropriate)..

I feel your frustration, we all do. I'm aggrivated to no end that the K1's get to be with their SO's faster than we do. It's not MUCH faster but everyday matters to me. I'm FURIOUS that the embassy I have to deal with schedules interviews sooo far away when they take in $100 a pop everytime someone applies for a visitor's visa and they deny 90% of them or more. I have been to the Consulate in Lagos. It's in a little section of Victoria Island that houses many Embassies... Canada, UK, etc. The line for the US Consulate is a mile long. People with hopeful yet fearful faces getting ready to hand over a month's salary to be told no, sorry, better luck next time (a.k.a. come back with another $100 you sap!). Apply some of that money to making the system work better! Nah.. they'll take from the poor and continue to feed themselves.

I understand the need for background checks. We have very real threats against us. But come on, do any of these "checks" amount to anything? If so, why are there terror cells being investigated all over the country? HOW DID THEY GET HERE??? Meanwhile, we stand in long lines in airports, get harrassed over bringing a sippy cup for our children on airplanes, have our passport system soooo backed up that they can't even impliment the laws they insisted on (passports are mandatory.. oh wait.. we cant make them fast enough.. they'll be mandatory when we get more realistic about the workload). Illegals are pouring in everyday and all I ask myself is WHY CANT NIGERIA BE WITHIN SWIMMING DISTANCE??????? I'm angry that so many people come in here illegally but I'm more jealous of them. My neighborhood is full of immigrants what's one little African going to harm?

Family values HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Does this mean anything to America? America that says we value fiance's but husbands and wives should be punished for their vows. Who in their right mind would scam the USCIS with a fake marriage when u can come in as a fiance(e) much faster and not have the ties to the person who brought you here? Come in and disappear.. bin laden can disappear with an army on his butt how hard is it for an immigrant to do it? If I were so desperate to get to America that's what I would do.

And these new fees! What's the deal with that. They need more money to make a better system, to hire more people blah blah blah. Yeah right. I hope they do make good use of the money we hand over to them so eagerly. Maybe the visa applicants that come after us will benefit from it. We won't but that's ok. We'll be helping out our brother and sister VJers. I just am not too sure the public or the customers of the USCIS will ever live to see that day.

I miss my husband too. We are reduced to phone calls that are interrupted by crackling noises and disconnects. IMs that last an hour with disconnection problems in between. Meanwhile his son grew inside me and not once did he feel him kick. He went through labor with me via a series of broken phone calls to my friend who was in the delivery room. I was alone with the crying baby every night for the first few months. But he never got to experience the first tooth or first smile except for pictures and videos (God bless youtube). He has never seen him walk or discover the things in life we all take for granted like our shadows. Every joy and pain we have in life is shared over the phone to our SO's while the people who make these rules go home to their wives/husbands and children after a long day of inventing another way to screw the people who are trying to do it right in an ineffectual attempt to weed out the losers. Missing our SO's is indescribable. The only things worse than this is to have them be away at war not knowing if they will ever come home. Or worse yet.. having them never come home again. At least we can be optimistic about some things.

The constant nagging of friends and family.. "when will he be here?" "what takes so long?" "I thought as soon as you got married he could come right away!" They can't fathom the fees and the paperwork. They certainly don't want to hear the details... I-130, I-129F blah blah blah The people in our lives have no idea what we have to endure. They don't know that their gov't is completely inept at catching those that wish to hurt us while simultaneously keeping away those that only want to love us. They don't know the agony of going through life as a married single parent or a parent who can't see their child or a single married person who attends family weddings w/out a date, dreaming of the day they married the love of their life who they would give anything to just touch one more time.

What it comes down to is, American citizens don't have the right to invite people to their homes or into their lives unless the gov't gives the ok.

That's freedom for ya.

The rant is over. Thanks for tolerating it.

[gogo 6]

They get here through the good "airport checks", haha.. The whole government is messed up.. Now they are relaxing the "terror level" again.. always telling everyone that they are moving down to "yellow" or "green".. why do you tell everyone? It's just like waving an invitation around to the terrorists..

[Urge To Race 2]

Kathryn,

Sounds like a good plan. Best of luck

Thank you, I agree. After studying the charts and talking to a few people, I think the best possible scenario would be to keep the I-130 going but not too fast. Pray the K3 gets to the embassy first then the I-130 meets it there and the K3 interview (which is scheduled about 3 months in advance) will be replaced by the CR-1 Interview (which by itself is scheduled almost a year.. 320 odd days... in advance). That is, of course, the best case scenario and not a gaurantee. The I-130 could beat the K3 to the embassy in which case I will have to wait almost a year for an interview. The USCIS might hold onto my I-129F if they think I'm going to abandon it (it's happened to others) and I'll be forced into the CR-1 which will be NOT GOOD... There aren't many stats in VJ to work off of when it comes to the CR-1 in Nigeria. There is only one case listed that has gone to the interview stage this year! (for that person the NOA2 - the Interview date was roughly 10 months) That makes me wonder why so many people don't pursue the CR-1 in Nigeria.. probably because the interview wait is so bad.

[Ahmad 0]

Hi,

Iam filing a K3 visa and I didnt see my chart there with the estimate timeline. I name is Ahmad, I filed I-30 with CSC, on 5/25/07 and recieved my NOA1 on 6/12/07 by mail. I filed my I-129F to Chicago on 6/23 and recieved my NOA1 on 7/3/07