Green New Deal: Ocasio-Cortez aims to make air travel obsolete, aid those ‘unwilling’ to work

[refugee 169]

9 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The interesting thing that seems to be ignored in the models that created the hockey stick is solar effects.  That great big fusion fireball in the sky has a lot more say in the climate of this planet than mankind ever will.

Do you have data that show a linear output of solar energy to match the temperature increases?

[refugee 169]

23 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

YOU are the only one who has called her ugly.  I think she is hawt (until she talks, that is).

 

When the temps rise over 10° C, get back to me.  Meanwhile, this 1.5° doesn’t alarm me.  Nor am I worried about my grandkids just yet.  And no, those who think she is too far out there have NOT lost the argument. Wait til the democrats dump her, then let’s talk about what we’ll do next, eh?

Is is a real number, 10c, or just another miscalculation like your projected US population increase? Plenty of timeto walk this back. At 3c increase billions of people will face food and water scarcity. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, refugee said:

Is is a real number, 10c, or just another miscalculation like your projected US population increase? Plenty of timeto walk this back. At 3c increase billions of people will face food and water scarcity. 

I have personally survived temperature swing of 175° F inside of a year, and yet here I am.

 

The sun’s swings alone account for about 1° C, and we are at what, 0.5° above that?  Put your tinfoil hat away, you’ll be ok, I promise.

 

I also recall you had no comeback for immigration affecting our US population and economy, so don’t let’s bring that one up here again, eh?  You lost that argument already.

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41 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

You are full of bat guano.  I have personally survived temperature swing of 175° F inside of a year, and yet here I am.

 

The sun’s swings alone account for about 1° C, and we are at what, 0.5° above that?  Put your tinfoil hat away, you’ll be ok, I promise.

 

I also recall you had no comeback for immigration affecting our US population and economy, so don’t let’s bring that one up here again, eh?  You lost that argument already.

I also recall an argument about Hondurans in the illegal alien caravans not waving (or even owning) Honduran flags.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

42 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I also recall an argument about Hondurans in the illegal alien caravans not waving (or even owning) Honduran flags.

Crazy stuff, eh?  Make a (false) claim or three, walk away, then refer to it in another thread weeks later.  On par with a weatherman!

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7 hours ago, refugee said:

Do you have data that show a linear output of solar energy to match the temperature increases?

Not necessarily linear, but definitely the one major forcing factor as to the planetary climate of all the planets in our solar system.  Additionally, I doubt the climate system of this planet fits into a nice neat linear model.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eigil_Friis-Christensen/publication/6065360_Length_of_the_Solar_Cycle_An_Indicator_of_Solar_Activity_Closely_Associated_with_Climate/links/54e85ffc0cf2f7aa4d517491.pdf

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10 hours ago, refugee said:

Do you have data that show a linear output of solar energy to match the temperature increases?

And please make sure its current data 

[refugee 169]

13 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

And please make sure its current data 

I will send it over in tab delimited format and let you use your mad python and R  skilz to parse it into some wicked visualizations

[refugee 169]

16 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not necessarily linear, but definitely the one major forcing factor as to the planetary climate of all the planets in our solar system.  Additionally, I doubt the climate system of this planet fits into a nice neat linear model.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eigil_Friis-Christensen/publication/6065360_Length_of_the_Solar_Cycle_An_Indicator_of_Solar_Activity_Closely_Associated_with_Climate/links/54e85ffc0cf2f7aa4d517491.pdf

The published in the 90s...anything from this century?

This chart is interesting: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_surface_temperature_(top,_blue)_and_the_Sun's_energy_received_at_the_top_of_Earth's_atmosphere_(red,_bottom)._Solar_energy_has_been_measured_by_satellites_since_1978.gif

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[Dashinka 25,017]

7 hours ago, refugee said:

The published in the 90s...anything from this century?

This chart is interesting: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_surface_temperature_(top,_blue)_and_the_Sun's_energy_received_at_the_top_of_Earth's_atmosphere_(red,_bottom)._Solar_energy_has_been_measured_by_satellites_since_1978.gif

So you are saying that mankind is more powerful than the sun?  Got it.  Btw, I will take a scientific study from the 90's over almost anything posted in Wikipedia particularly when it is from an entry with political overtones.

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[Dashinka 25,017]

I love it!

 

McConnell to bring Green New Deal to vote, forcing 2020 Dems to go on record on radical plan

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-to-bring-green-new-deal-to-vote-forcing-2020-democrats-to-officially-sign-their-name-onto-radical-plan

 

Green New Deal co-author Sen. Markey mocked for accusing McConnell of 'rushing' Senate vote

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/green-new-deal-co-author-sen-markey-mocked-for-accusing-mcconnell-of-rushing-senate-vote

 

 

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[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Yeah, my wife read that to me last night.  Brilliant move!

[TBoneTX 46,457]

One would think that they'd want to rush the vote in order to send us all back to the Neolithic Era as soon as possible.  Must save the planet, and all that.