Five-in-six Americans support making English the official language of the United States

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Uninvited is descriptive. If the shoe fits...

Historically, when has that ever made a difference with human migration?

Historically, when did nationstates begin to control immigration?

It kind of mattered ever since.

I'm assuming then you know the history between Mexico and the U.S. over the last century.

So, you're saying that the history between Mexico and the US makes the US/Mexico border and the US immigration law somehow less valid than other countries and their borders and immigration laws and regulations?

I'm saying the recent swell of hysteria, outrage, xenophobia over Mexican immigrants who are here illegally is being triggered by other factors than just their presence here - you only have to go back say 50 years or less to see that.

The percentage of illegals back then wasn't as close to 10% of the total population then as it is now. Neither were local health facilites literally crushed under the burden of treating scores of illegal immigrants at taxpayers expense. Nor were there hundreds of thousands of illegals marching in the streets of Americas cities demanding some ficticous "rights" to residency and citizenship either. You can push your host only that much before your host starts pushing back.

And there are reasons for the influx. Address those issues and the number will dramatically go down...at least that's what history suggests.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

One of the reasons is the income and standard of living disparity between the US and Mexico.

Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

[Mirorgate 0]

Uninvited is descriptive. If the shoe fits...

Historically, when has that ever made a difference with human migration?

Historically, when did nationstates begin to control immigration?

It kind of mattered ever since.

I'm assuming then you know the history between Mexico and the U.S. over the last century.

So, you're saying that the history between Mexico and the US makes the US/Mexico border and the US immigration law somehow less valid than other countries and their borders and immigration laws and regulations?

I'm saying the recent swell of hysteria, outrage, xenophobia over Mexican immigrants who are here illegally is being triggered by other factors than just their presence here - you only have to go back say 50 years or less to see that.

The percentage of illegals back then wasn't as close to 10% of the total population then as it is now. Neither were local health facilites literally crushed under the burden of treating scores of illegal immigrants at taxpayers expense. Nor were there hundreds of thousands of illegals marching in the streets of Americas cities demanding some ficticous "rights" to residency and citizenship either. You can push your host only that much before your host starts pushing back.

And there are reasons for the influx. Address those issues and the number will dramatically go down...at least that's what history suggests.

I always thought you were against the US invading another sovereign nation to "fix" the corruption and other issues at hand. Cafta/Nafta.... they voted for and signed the agreement, and yes, the people signing it did understand all that was entailed.

One of the reasons is the income and standard of living disparity between the US and Mexico.

Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

What, you don't think their heading that way now as it is??

[Ban Hammer 13,633]

One of the reasons is the income and standard of living disparity between the US and Mexico.

Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

i think we are well on the way, gupt. then let's hear the illegal immigrant crowd switch to "we want more wages" after this country is drained of money.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

What, you don't think their heading that way now as it is??

No, not yet. I and everyone I know makes more and lives better than we did 10 years ago. Wages are moving in the wrong direction, I can't wait till I get my first paycut, I will come on VJ and gleefully report it... that day will be the day we start being the solution and stop being the problem

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Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

What, you don't think their heading that way now as it is??

No, not yet. I and everyone I know makes more and lives better than we did 10 years ago. Wages are moving in the wrong direction, I can't wait till I get my first paycut, I will come on VJ and gleefully report it... that day will be the day we start being the solution and stop being the problem

Ahhh.. I see. Blame the rich for being rich eh? Let's see... if we were enforcing all the laws regarding immigration both legal and illegal.. I highly doubt we'd be in such a situation as we are now.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Solution: Bring US income levels and standard of living down to a level where it isn't worth it to them to make the trip.

What, you don't think their heading that way now as it is??

No, not yet. I and everyone I know makes more and lives better than we did 10 years ago. Wages are moving in the wrong direction, I can't wait till I get my first paycut, I will come on VJ and gleefully report it... that day will be the day we start being the solution and stop being the problem

Ahhh.. I see. Blame the rich for being rich eh? Let's see... if we were enforcing all the laws regarding immigration both legal and illegal.. I highly doubt we'd be in such a situation as we are now.

Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

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Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

That's because we're the best.

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Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

That's because we're the best.

Maybe if we imposed a law that states they HAVE to drink american brewed beer (not micros) but miller, bud, pabst, milwaukee, etc.. no one would want to come here then.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

That's because we're the best.

Maybe if we imposed a law that states they HAVE to drink american brewed beer (not micros) but miller, bud, pabst, milwaukee, etc.. no one would want to come here then.

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

We have to make living in America feel more like living in Canada.

[homesick_american 1]

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

Bush has been hard at work on that one for six years now. :lol:

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

Bush has been hard at work on that one for six years now. :lol:

So hard at work that they've been streaming in. He needs to work harder. And faster. God Forbid this great nation ever see that day when our president isn't a WASP *shudder*

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Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

That's because we're the best.

Maybe if we imposed a law that states they HAVE to drink american brewed beer (not micros) but miller, bud, pabst, milwaukee, etc.. no one would want to come here then.

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

We have to make living in America feel more like living in Canada.

Canada: Leading the world in being just to the north of the US.

btw.. we already have hockey here.. only thing missing is badly spoken french as a national language

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

Bush has been hard at work on that one for six years now. :lol:

So hard at work that they've been streaming in. He needs to work harder. And faster. God Forbid this great nation ever see that day when our president isn't a WASP *shudder*

Kennedy.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Who's blaming the rich? It's all our faults. By being consumers in America, we're at fault. We deserve to be as poor as the average Mexican, to have the mortality rates of the average Nigerian, to have our women as oppressed as the average Saudi. If that happened, then we'd have no illegal immigration problem because no one in their right mind would want to come here. THAT is the solution to illegal immigration... be poor, backwards and pathetic. Anything else makes us a magnet country and then you end up with Lou Dobbs on the TV.

Granted that one can not be 100% illegal immigrant free, but we can at least, should be at least less than the upwards of the 20million we have now living here. Other countries, 1st world types, do not have as many. We have greater than the pop of some countries living here illegally than they have citizens.

That's because we're the best.

Maybe if we imposed a law that states they HAVE to drink american brewed beer (not micros) but miller, bud, pabst, milwaukee, etc.. no one would want to come here then.

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

We have to make living in America feel more like living in Canada.

Canada: Leading the world in being just to the north of the US.

btw.. we already have hockey here.. only thing missing is badly spoken french as a national language

Now you're thinking. We have to do all we can to make sure living in America isn't so darn awesome.

Bush has been hard at work on that one for six years now. :lol:

So hard at work that they've been streaming in. He needs to work harder. And faster. God Forbid this great nation ever see that day when our president isn't a WASP *shudder*

Kennedy.

Yeah, 1 guy. Big achievement. And they didn't even let him finish his term.

In a Hispanic America, WASPS would never win ever again. That would be sweet and scary at the same time. Sweet, because I am full of class envy. Scary, because I am full of fear based on ridiculous MS13 stereotypes.