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Hello, all. My K-1 fiancé and I are getting married in a couple of weeks and had a question for you all: 

 

I wanted to ask if any of you decided against using an immigration attorney when filing Form I-485. We didn't use an attorney for the K-1 process and think we'll be all right for this as well, but I wanted to see if any of you would be willing to share your experiences (especially given that the AOS process can be pretty complex).  

 

Thanks so much! 

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1 minute ago, KenziePNW said:

Hello, all. My K-1 fiancé I are getting married in a couple of weeks and had a question for you all: 

 

I wanted to ask if any of you decided against using an immigration attorney when filing Form I-485. We didn't use an attorney for the K-1 process and think we'll be all right for this as well, but I wanted to see if any of you would be willing to share your experiences (especially given that the AOS process can be pretty complex).  

 

Thanks so much! 

I found it easier. I compiled all of the documents within a week this time whereas last time it took me a month. (Self filer with complicated criminal history/divorces when filing for K1). 

Join your month's AOS filing group. Everyone is in the same boat. 

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It's not complex and there is a forum full of people sharing experiances. Just browse it, dont be lazy. 

K1

29.11.2013 - NoA1

06.02.2014 - NoA2

01.04.2014 - Interview. 

AoS

03.2015 - AoS started.

09.2015 - Green Card received.  

RoC

24.07.2017 - NoA1.

01.08.2018 - RoC approved. 

 

 

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If you’ve found this site, you do not need an attorney (provided your case is relatively straight forward). 

 

Read the instructions from USCIS line by line as you complete it, and if you get stuck, pop on here.  You will be just fine, and save a few thousand dollars :) 

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We have done the entire process by ourselves, using VisaJourney and the USCIS website only.  No RFEs along the way, and we are currently waiting for my husband's AOS interview to be scheduled.

 

 

I really think in most cases there is no need for an attorney.  It is a money suck, and they often make errors.

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Honestly, the I-485 is a much simpler process than the K-1 visa IMO.

There's more direct forms needed to complete and submit, but you basically just fill them out, provide the necessary documentation, and wait for an interview.

 

Anyway, read through the guide (https://www.visajourney.com/content/k1k3aos) and instructions for each form. Ask questions. If you still don't understand or have particular concerns, then professional assistance may be useful.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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If you didn't use an attorney for the K1, you really don't need one for AOS.

 

My husband came on a K1 in June, we got married in August, submitted his AOS/AP/EAD in August and he has his AOS Interview in a couple of weeks.  All done without a lawyer.  

 

Save your money. 

 

 

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K1 Timeline

5/17/2017: I-129F sent to USCIS Lewisville, Texas via FedEx Ground Shipping
01/03/2018: NVC Received I-129F and Case Number Received
01/23/2018: Embassy Received
02/09/2018: Medical
03/19/2018: Interview 
03/19/2018: APPROVED!
03/21/2018: Visa in Hand

08/04/2018:  MARRIED!

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AOS Timeline (I-485)

08/29/2018: AOS/EAD/AP sent to USCIS Chicago Lockbox via FedEx

09/12/2018: Received our NOA1 hard copy via mail

09/24/2018: Biometrics Appointment

12/27/2018: AOS Interview Scheduled by USCIS

02/13/2019: Interview

02/14/2019: AOS APPROVED!!!

02/20/2019: GREEN CARD ISSUED!!!

02/21/2019: GREEN CARD IN HAND!!!

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Removal of Conditions Timeline (I-751)

11/13/2020: 90-day application window opened

12/12/2020: I-751 sent to USCIS Phoenix via UPS

12/17/2020: Received by USCIS

01/28/2021: Received NOA1 hard copy via mail

02/04/2021: Biometrics Waived 

11/08/2021: Received NOA hard copy for 24-month extension via mail

01/11/2022: Removal of Conditions Approved

01/15/2022: Hard copy of NOA received

01/18/2022: Permanent Resident Card in Hand!

****************************

Citizenship Timeline (N-400)

08/04/2021: 3-year marriage-based window opened

09/12/2022: N-400 filed online, Received by USCIS, NOA1 Digital copy received

09/14/2022: Biometrics Waived 

12/21/2022: Citizenship Interview Scheduled by USCIS (Vermont Field Office)

02/07/2023: Interview 

06/23/2023: Citizenship Oath!!!

 

VJ Was With Us From Beginning to END...THANK YOU VJ!!!

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You survived the K-1 process by yourself; I have no doubt you will ace the AOS process without an attorney. Save your money and use it for vacation when it's all said and done.

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We have been through the entire process up to naturalization and did not use an attorney.  I agree with @geowrian I found the K1 the most complex filing, but that may have been that it was my first foray into the process.  The AOS is fairly straightforward and the forms are not that daunting, and there are a lot of folks here willing to help answer any questions.  Just my two cents.

 

Good Luck!

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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An attorney is only for those with complex, difficult cases that involve things like criminal records or appeals, things like that.  For a straightforward case they are a waste of money and often make mistakes or delay the process.  Do it yourself.  Even with an attorney or "visa service," you will have to fill out the forms and send them all the documents anyway.

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The AOS process is like a walk in the park in comparison to the i-129f/K-1 process. I don't see why anyone with a normal, straight-forward case would hire a lawyer for any part of the immigration process (from visa to greencards to citizenship).

K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017

ROC: 04-22-2019 - 04-22-2020
Naturalization: 05-01-2020 - 03-16-2021

U.S. passport: 03-30-2021 - 05-08-2021

En livstid i krig. Göteborg killed it. Epic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBs3G1PvyfM&ab_channel=Sabaton

 

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2 minutes ago, Scandi said:

The AOS process is like a walk in the park in comparison to the i-129f/K-1 process. I don't see why anyone with a normal, straight-forward case would hire a lawyer for any part of the immigration process (from visa to greencards to citizenship).

Exactly.  If there’s nothing complicated, just do it yourself.  

 

I’m a paralegal, and when I worked in a firm that handled immigration, I can tell you the easy cases were done by interns.  Paralegals would handle the slightly more complex ones, and the attorneys just oversee everything (just to make sure there is no glaring error).  They only really get involved if something hugely complex is involved.  Most of their time is spent shmoozing with large corporations who regularly need immigration services.  Simple stuff is a cash grab for them.  

 

This site is more helpful because you get real life answers from everyone who has gone through this journey. 

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