NBI with AKA clarification needed

[pamawemo 78]

We have a bit of a complicated name issue that I'm realizing could cause a problem. My fiance's documents (BC, Passport, foreign IDs for work, CENOMAR, NBI, police certs, etc.) all say Susie Fe Smyth. (not her real name!)

 

Her mom and 8 siblings go by Smith. Seems her deceased father went by Smith and Smyth. Grandma filed Susie's birth certificate as Smyth and didn't want to pay to change it so her birth name as well as her parents are Smyths on her birth certificate. Some of her friends call her "Fe". Susie has never been married so no married names to be concerned about.

 

On my I 129F, I spelled her name as it appears on all legal documents - Smyth. I put her dad's name as Smith (that is what she gave me.) I also answered the question about nicknames with the response "Fe."

 

Her NBI (which she just applied for again because we learned here it has to be within 6 months) is in the name Smyth, of course. She didn't think to ask for an AKA because 1)She doesn't use "Smith" and 2)only some people call her Fe. Most call her Susie but I was honest on the I 129F and said she had a nickname.

 

Should she get a third NBI and ask for an AKA? Or are we over-thinking this? Her interview is 2/14. I think her head is about to come off! 

 

 

 

[Greenbaum 12,259]

1 hour ago, pamawemo said:

We have a bit of a complicated name issue that I'm realizing could cause a problem. My fiance's documents (BC, Passport, foreign IDs for work, CENOMAR, NBI, police certs, etc.) all say Susie Fe Smyth. (not her real name!)

 

Her mom and 8 siblings go by Smith. Seems her deceased father went by Smith and Smyth. Grandma filed Susie's birth certificate as Smyth and didn't want to pay to change it so her birth name as well as her parents are Smyths on her birth certificate. Some of her friends call her "Fe". Susie has never been married so no married names to be concerned about.

 

On my I 129F, I spelled her name as it appears on all legal documents - Smyth. I put her dad's name as Smith (that is what she gave me.) I also answered the question about nicknames with the response "Fe."

 

Her NBI (which she just applied for again because we learned here it has to be within 6 months) is in the name Smyth, of course. She didn't think to ask for an AKA because 1)She doesn't use "Smith" and 2)only some people call her Fe. Most call her Susie but I was honest on the I 129F and said she had a nickname.

 

Should she get a third NBI and ask for an AKA? Or are we over-thinking this? Her interview is 2/14. I think her head is about to come off! 

 

 

 

ALL AKA's must be searched or you will get a 221(g) and the end of the interview.

[pamawemo 78]

36 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

ALL AKA's must be searched or you will get a 221(g) and the end of the interview.

Is any name anyone ever called her considered an AKA? (I call her Honey all the time!) But seriously, she said when she was a kid her siblings called her Kikay as a term of endearment and one boss in Hong Kong called her SueFe. None of those names were used by her in any way but should she list all of them and reapply for a third NBI? Or just list the nickname and alternative spelling of her father's name I put on the petition?

 

Guess I'm not clear on what constitutes AKA. To me, it's an alias and I would say she has never used an alias. But I don't work for USEM either.

 

She lives in a pretty rural area and takes a 3-hour round trip bus ride to get to the NBI office closest to her. Could she wait until she gets to Manila to apply for the new one with the AKA? How long does it take to get it in Manila? She was told 30 days at her regional office but then apparently "paid a little extra" to expedite the one she applied for three days ago. 

 

I told her we don't want to risk a 221g so I offered to do the research to help her get it done right.

[Hank_ 9,174]

3 hours ago, pamawemo said:

We have a bit of a complicated name issue that I'm realizing could cause a problem. My fiance's documents (BC, Passport, foreign IDs for work, CENOMAR, NBI, police certs, etc.) all say Susie Fe Smyth. (not her real name!)

 

Her mom and 8 siblings go by Smith. Seems her deceased father went by Smith and Smyth. Grandma filed Susie's birth certificate as Smyth and didn't want to pay to change it so her birth name as well as her parents are Smyths on her birth certificate. Some of her friends call her "Fe". Susie has never been married so no married names to be concerned about.

 

On my I 129F, I spelled her name as it appears on all legal documents - Smyth. I put her dad's name as Smith (that is what she gave me.) I also answered the question about nicknames with the response "Fe."

 

Her NBI (which she just applied for again because we learned here it has to be within 6 months) is in the name Smyth, of course. She didn't think to ask for an AKA because 1)She doesn't use "Smith" and 2)only some people call her Fe. Most call her Susie but I was honest on the I 129F and said she had a nickname.

 

Should she get a third NBI and ask for an AKA? Or are we over-thinking this? Her interview is 2/14. I think her head is about to come off! 

 

 

 

AKA is required for all NAMES used.  Smyth is the name on all her documents (passport, BC, CENOMAR, NBI)      If your fiancee has NEVER used Smith as her name then no AKA would be needed.  

 

 A casual nickname isn't another name used ... if that were true a whole lot of people would need to get an AKA for Honey, Sweetie and such ..   

[pamawemo 78]

1 minute ago, Hank_ said:

AKA is required for all NAMES used.  Smyth is the name on all her documents (passport, BC, CENOMAR, NBI)      If your fiancee has NEVER used Smith as her name then no AKA would be needed.  

 

 A casual nickname isn't another name used ... if that were true a whole lot of people would need to get an AKA for Honey, Sweetie and such ..   

Ok. She did use her nickname Fe and the last name Smith on Facebook as her screen name. Is that considered an AKA? 

[Hank_ 9,174]

Just now, pamawemo said:

Ok. She did use her nickname Fe and the last name Smith on Facebook as her screen name. Is that considered an AKA? 

 

My wife used her nickname on FB and such (still does) .. she did not complete an AKA with her NBI.

 

My gut says NO need.     

 

 

[pamawemo 78]

12 minutes ago, Hank_ said:

 

My wife used her nickname on FB and such (still does) .. she did not complete an AKA with her NBI.

 

My gut says NO need.     

 

 

Thanks. I can't see it either.

 

Another quick question: Does the CO have my petition in front of him/her during the interview? Should my fiance have a copy of it with her for any reason?

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, pamawemo said:

Thanks. I can't see it either.

 

Another quick question: Does the CO have my petition in front of him/her during the interview? Should my fiance have a copy of it with her for any reason?

Yes the CO will have your complete I-129F case file.  It would be good for your fiancee to have a copy of the I-129F and read through the bio section for you .. the CO will ask about you mostly, your fiancee should know about your work, your residence, your vehicle any close family.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

4 hours ago, pamawemo said:

Is any name anyone ever called her considered an AKA? (I call her Honey all the time!) But seriously, she said when she was a kid her siblings called her Kikay as a term of endearment and one boss in Hong Kong called her SueFe. None of those names were used by her in any way but should she list all of them and reapply for a third NBI? Or just list the nickname and alternative spelling of her father's name I put on the petition?

 

Guess I'm not clear on what constitutes AKA. To me, it's an alias and I would say she has never used an alias. But I don't work for USEM either.

 

She lives in a pretty rural area and takes a 3-hour round trip bus ride to get to the NBI office closest to her. Could she wait until she gets to Manila to apply for the new one with the AKA? How long does it take to get it in Manila? She was told 30 days at her regional office but then apparently "paid a little extra" to expedite the one she applied for three days ago. 

 

I told her we don't want to risk a 221g so I offered to do the research to help her get it done right.

Sorry, AKA's can have different meanings depending on what the governmental agency sees as a AKA. Sir Hank gave you a good explanation so I will leave it at that. 

[LunaEclipse 1]

Hello!

 

Thought I'd answer this question as my fiance also included my nickname on the I-129F form. I'm done with my interview and is recommended for visa approval, status of my case is still AP tho.

 

As per the USEM website (https://ph.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiancee-visa/the-interview/), AKAs are names and/or aliases that the applicant used that also appears on civil documents (e.g., birth certificate, marriage certificate, etc.), even if these names or spellings have never been routinely used.

 

If your fiancee's nickname isn't listed on any of her legal and civil documents, there's no need to get an NBI with her AKA. Just make sure that her NBI Clearance matches her name of the Passport and the rest of her civil documents. 

 

PS: My nickname wasn't questioned by any of the consul who spoke with me during the interview.

 

Hope this helps!

[Hank_ 9,174]

 

 

[pamawemo 78]

3 hours ago, LunaEclipse said:

Hello!

 

Thought I'd answer this question as my fiance also included my nickname on the I-129F form. I'm done with my interview and is recommended for visa approval, status of my case is still AP tho.

 

As per the USEM website (https://ph.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiancee-visa/the-interview/), AKAs are names and/or aliases that the applicant used that also appears on civil documents (e.g., birth certificate, marriage certificate, etc.), even if these names or spellings have never been routinely used.

 

If your fiancee's nickname isn't listed on any of her legal and civil documents, there's no need to get an NBI with her AKA. Just make sure that her NBI Clearance matches her name of the Passport and the rest of her civil documents. 

 

PS: My nickname wasn't questioned by any of the consul who spoke with me during the interview.

 

Hope this helps!

Thanks much! Sounds like your situation is similar. I'll let my fiance  know so perhaps she can be a bit less stressed about this part of the process. Good luck with getting out from under AP.

[eFBi 6]

I have a question too regarding this. Hopefully, someone can help me. I put my nickname in my DS-160 as other name since it is the name that my friends and co workers used to call me  but that nickname never existed in any of my civil documents. My fiance put that too in his I-129F. Should I request for another NBI with AKA (nickname) even if it never existed in any of my civil documents? Should I re-do my DS-160? Hopefully someone can help. Thank you. 

[Hank_ 9,174]

1 hour ago, eFBi said:

I have a question too regarding this. Hopefully, someone can help me. I put my nickname in my DS-160 as other name since it is the name that my friends and co workers used to call me  but that nickname never existed in any of my civil documents. My fiance put that too in his I-129F. Should I request for another NBI with AKA (nickname) even if it never existed in any of my civil documents? Should I re-do my DS-160? Hopefully someone can help. Thank you. 

Have you used your nickname on official documents?   Then it isn't an "other name used" .. so no AKA  for the NBI.

 

If nicknames were required with the AKA .. Honey, Sweetie would be all over the NBI requests      

[eFBi 6]

2 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Have you used your nickname on official documents?   Then it isn't an "other name used" .. so no AKA  for the NBI.

 

If nicknames were required with the AKA .. Honey, Sweetie would be all over the NBI requests      

Thanks, Hank. But does it mean I need to re-do my DS-160 even if it's already submitted? Or it's fine to leave it that way? Thank you again.