Bona Fide Evidence

[LilyJ 1,258]

38 minutes ago, thatguyuknow said:

You'll struggle to get Life Insurance in Denmark now if you don't already have it, due to residency requirements

 

Stop making this complicated for yourself. What we sent:

1, Photos together and with family 2, Passport stamps and tickets 3, Partner as a beneficiary of my pension 4, 2 pages of stubs/receipts/attractions we visited

 

You can send Affidavits (supposedly they're worthless, we didn't bother) 

 

Use something like Word or Writer and compile all your photos, stamps and tickets into one document. We sent 3 pages of photos, 3 pages of passport stamps/plane tickets and 2 pages of stuff we did together stubs/receipts etc.

Do you think that the pictures, tickets/stamps, and receipts should all suffice without us having any financial ties? We have plenty of pictures/stamps/tickets/receipts so if so we are good on those parts. Would pictures of his plane tickets work since those are currently in DK with him?

 

34 minutes ago, Georgia16 said:

Correct taxes don’t come out until March in DK. But on borger.dk with his personal login you will be listed as his wife already. 

Some people in here have been able to get spouses on accounts and stuff without them being present he can also try the danish bank and insurance it doesn’t only have to be you. 

All I’m trying to say is you got to try and do somethings so you are prepared for later in the process. As of now they know you guys only got married and don’t really have much but you will need much more later. For now send the tickets, pictures and what you have. 

We will look at that on borger.dk, his bank will not allow me on his account though and he does not have any private insurance to add me on to, and the public health insurance is only for residents as far as we both are aware.

[thatguyuknow 147]

10 minutes ago, LilyJohansen said:

Do you think that the pictures, tickets/stamps, and receipts should all suffice without us having any financial ties?

There is nothing you can do about it. You can't just pull things like that from thin air because of resistance requirements.

You're applying for a cr1 overseas right? You and your partner have never held the same residence?

 

You're going to have to move forward with what you've got. 

 

File the form i130 and wait. If you get an RFE for more evidence so be it, but I doubt it. You'll have about 6 months from filing to potential RFE, if you're in either country before then you could try and arrange some bank stuff. 

 

Good Luck! This is a simple process for people from low fraud countries, stop making it complicated for yourself.

[LilyJ 1,258]

2 minutes ago, thatguyuknow said:

There is nothing you can do about it. You can't just pull things like that from thin air because of resistance requirements.

You're applying for a cr1 overseas right? You and your partner have never held the same residence?

 

You're going to have to move forward with what you've got. 

 

File the form i130 and wait. If you get an RFE for more evidence so be it, but I doubt it. You'll have about 6 months from filing to potential RFE, if you're in either country before then you could try and arrange some bank stuff. 

 

Good Luck! This is a simple process for people from low fraud countries, stop making it complicated for yourself.

Yes we've never had the same residence, so no leases or anything. We will go and try with those and see if we can do anything next time he is in the states to add afterwards, we are also working with people to help us put our petition together who will overlook it for us so hopefully they will catch anything we need to add if it's not enough. Thank you!

[Esther Jeru 53]

i filed in may 2018 for my husband overseas and we got approved 1/11/2019. FYI we got married in april 2018.

my package included

1. form I 130                                           7. phone logs 

2 form I 130A                                         8. pictures... 5 wedding pictures of both of us and 5 pictures of us and family

3. form G 1145                                    9. 1 affidavit of support from a friend who knows us

4. check $535                                        10. marriage certificate

5. air tickets                                            11. 2 passports pictures for me and 2 for my husband

6. emails between us                            12. A copy of my naturalization certificate

 

There you go......that was it for me. i was scared cuz i thought my evidence where not enough based on some videos i watched but my case was approved.  got an rfe to send a translated copy of my marriage certificate in English which i did and in less than a month i received my approval notice. My advice is gather what you have, recommend it to the Lord and send it.  

[Esther Jeru 53]

Don't overthink this process, i didnt need any lease because we obviously leave in different countries, no life insurance or all those extra stuff. if you have them add it but if you have them use what you have.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

11 hours ago, LilyJohansen said:

We don't have either of those things, since we are both young and as said have only gotten married a month ago. We do have pictures as you mentioned and plenty of visits, however I only have my tickets from my one visit over there, his plane tickets from his past 4 visits are all in Denmark, but I have heard mixed things about including pictures, though if it will work we have plenty of them.

I haven't heard that it is possible to get a joint bank account with him being outside of the US, since he cannot sign at the bank and doesn't have a tax number, but I am not sure, that's what I've heard though. We are also quite young for life insurance, we are not even yet in our mid-20s, and our funds with the visa and my college don't really allow much wiggle room for more added monthly costs. It's something we are considering for the future, but we don't have the money for it until he moves here and don't have to worry about visa fees anymore.

You have what we had.  Next to nothing.  I did add to health insurance plan though because health insurance will enroll pending social security number, while most banks, life insurance, etc will not.

I’d advise copies of all the travel info from the time you have spent together and always advise a few pictures over affidavits.  Treat it like a K1 package with a marriage certificate and you’ll be fine.  

[Nitas_man 3,100]

12 hours ago, Georgia16 said:

Any joint bank accounts?

Any policies where you or he are beneficiaries? 

You have no joint anything? 

Most couples do not have anything that requires the beneficiary to have a SS number.  It is common.

[JFH 12,190]

OP, relax. It’s not as hard as people want you to think. We had also never lived together, had no assets or property together. We didn’t have a joint bank account. Denmark is not a high fraud country and the genuineness of your marriage won’t be under much scrutiny, if at all. Stop reading threads from people going through African or Middle East embassies who have an uphill struggle. They do have to send tons of evidence but we Western Europeans have it much easier as the stance is taken that there is no economic advantage for us to marry someone purely to be able to immigrate to the USA. In many  cases, we come from a better standard of living already. I certainly had better job security (UK is not an “at will” state!), more vacation and paid sick time, cheaper healthcare,  worked fewer hours and had better retirement prospects in the UK than I do here. 

 

One thing I will say - you are never too young for a will. Accidents happen at any age. Doesn’t have to be fancy and it’s not just for people with lots of money. Our wills are very simple - they just say “sell everything and donate the proceeds to xxx charity” and they give instructions on how we want to be buried and where. 

 

Focus on evidence of time spent together. Ditch the affidavits. They are not worth the paper they are written on in your case. Copies of boarding passes, passport stamps, his I-94 record (can be printed from the CBP website), some photos, cards sent to both of you as couple (Christmas cards, anniversary cards), invitations sent to both of you as a couple.

 

Here’s what we sent:

 

- a couple of photos from each year we have been together taken at different times of the year (much better to send 3 photos a year than 20 photos from the same day)

- one wedding photo

- copy of my I-94 records

- statement from my employer saying my husband was my emergency contact and beneficiary of my employer life insurance 

- copies of messages between us over time (not lovey dovey ones but ones where we discussed things that married couples discuss such as what color curtains to buy, where to spend thanksgiving, what to buy my mother for her birthday, my sister’s pregnancy and baby, work, money, bills, etc also a disagreement we had and how we resolved it - no need to send pages and pages of “I love you” and heart emojis)

- a copy of my hospital record where the surgeon wrote “I spoke to her husband in the USA by telephone and explained that”...)

- a few wedding congratulatory cards 

- a copy of the police report from a very minor traffic accident we were involved in where the officer wrote “Mr H was leaving the parking lot of the apartment complex where he lives. His wife J was in the front passenger seat”

 

We did not send photos of us with family members - my mother didn’t even meet my husband for the first time until we had been married over 3 years and I had been living here in the US for 18 months. We didn’t send joint bank account or credit card stuff. We didn’t have that. No affidavits. We have no children. We had never lived together. We were approved without an RFE. 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2019 by JFH

[Beaniebob 8]

I know that for me and my husband, we did not have any financial ties either as we were newly married and never lived together.  Granted this was in 2016, but the only proof of relationship I sent in was 2 affidavits from people who witnessed our wedding contract signing and the marriage certificate. Of course every situation is different. 

[bakphx1 789]

The USCIS is not unrealistic about couples who haven’t lived in the same country. 

 

Focus on pictures, travel documents, messages.  You’re not working with a high fraud country so you’ll get no static.

[MrandMrsAlexander 44]

18 hours ago, LilyJohansen said:

I am trying to put together bona fide evidence of marriage before sending the I-130 for my husband, but as he lives overseas and we are recently married, we do not have any shared assets. I have 1 sworn Third Party Affidavit and am planning to get 1 or 2 more of them, but I am not sure if these affidavits should be enough evidence, or if we will need more/different evidence to go with them. And if we would need more evidence, I am not sure what would that be with us not having any shared assets yet?

The only “bonafide evidence” of a marriage is a legitimate marriage license. You should not be fabricating evidence for immigration purposes. When I filed for my husband I sent 1 wedding picture and one picture while we were at a club along with my passport pages showing trips. 

 

These people know long distance relationships are limited by distance. They are not expecting you to have certain things, especially if you just got married. Relax send what you have and all will be well. Good luck! By the interview a lot more evidence of your ongoing relationship will develop. 

[accumbyte 149]

16 hours ago, Esther Jeru said:

4. check $535

@LilyJohansen, paying with a credit card or debit card is also an option: https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-expands-credit-card-payment-option-fees

[USC4SPOUSE 506]

10 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

You have what we had.  Next to nothing.  I did add to health insurance plan though because health insurance will enroll pending social security number, while most banks, life insurance, etc will not.

I’d advise copies of all the travel info from the time you have spent together and always advise a few pictures over affidavits.  Treat it like a K1 package with a marriage certificate and you’ll be fine.  

I think this is really good advice. I would focus on showcasing the longevity of your relationship. I would even include a relationship timeline. I would then build the evidence around that. It is important for them to see that you did not meet on Monday, got married on Tuesday and filed the I-130 on Wednesday. 

 

Now, in regards to finances, I would attempt to add your spouse to your bank account, even if it is as an authorized user. If the bank issues a letter stating they cannot add him, then use that letter as evidence, as well. The intent is worth showing. 

 

I would add him as your emergency contact on your insurance, employment info. I would also include your communications over time, as well, in addition to what you already have. 

 

Consider an Advance Health Care directive, a will, or power of attorney. 

 

If you choose to submit affidavits, I would add weight to them by notarizing them. Make sure that whoever writes them, references specific occasions when they have spent time with you two as a couple. If there are receipts, text messages or pictures that you can tie to the affidavits, all the better. 

 

I would not delay sending your application, though. 

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[LilyJ 1,258]

On 1/26/2019 at 7:30 PM, USC4SPOUSE said:

I would even include a relationship timeline.

Out of curiosity, what would a relationship timeline include? Is it just a list of events, like when we started dating, when we visited each other, engaged, etc?