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Maybe? Maybe not?

That's like showing a pay stub for $2,200/month and asking if that's enough to live on. How many people (now noted to be 2)? Where are they living (NYC or the boondocks)? What kinds of expenses are involved?

To be clear, I'm not actually asking for that type of information. It's just that there's no way to know just based on a tax return if that will be sufficient for the CO to address the public charge concern.

 

It looks like they are an employee (not self-employed). As such, pay stubs and an employment letter would be the best evidence of current income. Tax returns - while required to help with the overall assessment - only show past income for an employee.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Maybe? Maybe not?

That's like showing a pay stub for $2,200/month and asking if that's enough to live on. How many people (now noted to be 2)? Where are they living (NYC or the boondocks)? What kinds of expenses are involved?

To be clear, I'm not actually asking for that type of information. It's just that there's no way to know just based on a tax return if that will be sufficient for the CO to address the public charge concern.

 

It looks like they are an employee (not self-employed). As such, pay stubs and an employment letter would be the best evidence of current income. Tax returns - while required to help with the overall assessment - only show past income for an employee.

Yes just 2 people n they’re in Mississippi i just want to know wats the amount and is it the taxable income or the first??

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39 minutes ago, BA/M said:

Yes just 2 people n they’re in Mississippi i just want to know wats the amount and is it the taxable income or the first??

For a household of 2 in the continental US, one must have current income of at least $20,575/year to qualify to submit an I-864. See https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p.

 

There are 2 major items of noteworthiness:

  1. Current income
    1. Current income for an employee is denoted via how much they make in a 12 month period, and evidenced via pays stubs and/or an employment letter. Tax returns would be past income for an employee.
      1. For example, if somebody worked all of 2018 but is now unemployed, their current income is $0.
    2. If one is self-employed, tax returns would be the source of their current income instead. In which case you would list the total income (line 6 for 2018 for a 1040, line 22 for 2017 and back).
  2. The CO will look at the totality of the circumstances to determine the public charge issue. There is no minimum income level to satisfy this piece.
    1. Typically, barring reason for a CO to believe otherwise, being fairly above the minimum level noted above is sufficient. So if somebody currently makes $35,668/year - barring any issues or concerns - that would probably be enough for a spouse.
    2. NOTE: I said spouse above because an elderly parent or similar may have significant medical care or insurance costs that make it a much tougher call.

Best wishes and good luck.

 

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

For a household of 2 in the continental US, one must have current income of at least $20,575/year to qualify to submit an I-864. See https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p.

 

There are 2 major items of noteworthiness:

  1. Current income
    1. Current income for an employee is denoted via how much they make in a 12 month period, and evidenced via pays stubs and/or an employment letter. Tax returns would be past income for an employee.
      1. For example, if somebody worked all of 2018 but is not unemployed, their current income is $0.
    2. If one is self-employed, tax returns would be the source of their current income instead. In which case you would list the total income (line 6 for 2018 for a 1040, line 22 for 2017 and back).
  2. The CO will look at the totality of the circumstances to determine the public charge issue. There is no minimum income level to satisfy this piece.
    1. Typically, barring reason for a CO to believe otherwise, being fairly above the minimum level noted above is sufficient. So if somebody currently makes $35,668/year - barring any issues or concerns - that would probably be enough for a spouse.
    2. NOTE: I said spouse above because an elderly parent or similar may have significant medical care or insurance costs that make it a much tougher call.

Best wishes and good luck.

 

Thank u so much

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
Timeline

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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