Flight tickets, photos, etc that are older than 2 years make our case better or worse

[art1234 14]

Hello,

We've started to get all the paperwork to file the petition for the K1 visa.

At this point we've gathered all airline inventory (14 tickets in total), all photos we look cute together (10 photos) and some other stuff.

The instructions clearly say that we should provide evidence that we've met in the last two years which I have plenty of. In fact, we lived together for almost 14 months of the last two years.

We also have flight tickets and photos of us that are older than 2 years. 

My question is: should I be careful and not submit any evidence before 2 years and if so is the 2-year mark when we mail the petition or some time later?

 

Thanks,

Art.

 

 

[Alabamak1 688]

Just now, ArtDerkint said:

Hello,

We've started to get all the paperwork to file the petition for the K1 visa.

At this point we've gathered all airline inventory (14 tickets in total), all photos we look cute together (10 photos) and some other stuff.

The instructions clearly say that we should provide evidence that we've met in the last two years which I have plenty of. In fact, we lived together for almost 14 months of the last two years.

We also have flight tickets and photos of us that are older than 2 years. 

My question is: should I be careful and not submit any evidence before 2 years and if so is the 2-year mark when we mail the petition or some time later?

 

Thanks,

Art.

 

 

as long as you submit evidence within the 2 year....you should be ok 

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

Agreed with above. Main thing is proof of meeting WITHIN the last two years. Even just once. Anything else is just "bonus" or "extra" evidence which is always good to have. Submit them all if you want to honestly.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 hour ago, ArtDerkint said:

Hello,

We've started to get all the paperwork to file the petition for the K1 visa.

At this point we've gathered all airline inventory (14 tickets in total), all photos we look cute together (10 photos) and some other stuff.

The instructions clearly say that we should provide evidence that we've met in the last two years which I have plenty of. In fact, we lived together for almost 14 months of the last two years.

We also have flight tickets and photos of us that are older than 2 years. 

My question is: should I be careful and not submit any evidence before 2 years and if so is the 2-year mark when we mail the petition or some time later?

 

Thanks,

Art.

 

 

Documented face to face time over an extended period of time strengthens your case.  Send every bit of it in.

[art1234 14]

Thanks, guys. that put some peace in my mind

[payxibka 10,045]

2 hours ago, ArtDerkint said:

Hello,

We've started to get all the paperwork to file the petition for the K1 visa.

At this point we've gathered all airline inventory (14 tickets in total), all photos we look cute together (10 photos) and some other stuff.

The instructions clearly say that we should provide evidence that we've met in the last two years which I have plenty of. In fact, we lived together for almost 14 months of the last two years.

We also have flight tickets and photos of us that are older than 2 years. 

My question is: should I be careful and not submit any evidence before 2 years and if so is the 2-year mark when we mail the petition or some time later?

 

Thanks,

Art.

 

 

At the petition stage photos outside of two years does nothing to strengthen your case because it isn't considered.  The petition has specific requirements to be met.  Provide quality evidence,  quantity evidence is nothing but noise

[SalishSea 17,829]

Photos are secondary evidence.  Primary evidence of meeting within the past two years would be passport stamps.

 

We included the dates and stamps for all of our visits, dating back to 2015.  We actually did not send any photos except for the required passport photos.

[Shiran 1,134]

8 hours ago, ArtDerkint said:

Hello,

We've started to get all the paperwork to file the petition for the K1 visa.

At this point we've gathered all airline inventory (14 tickets in total), all photos we look cute together (10 photos) and some other stuff.

The instructions clearly say that we should provide evidence that we've met in the last two years which I have plenty of. In fact, we lived together for almost 14 months of the last two years.

We also have flight tickets and photos of us that are older than 2 years. 

My question is: should I be careful and not submit any evidence before 2 years and if so is the 2-year mark when we mail the petition or some time later?

 

Don't overthink it. From what I've seen on this forum you are more like get RFE request for missing a checkbox somewhere, or forgetting to include letter of attention than "not enough evidence" Save those previous years for the in person interview time. For 129F concentrate on basics. Review the RFE thread and see where folks who came before you got tripped up. Do not miss checkbox for question 55! Include 2 letters of intent. Including something specifically that shows you've met within last 2 years. Include prove that petitioner is US Citizen. Good luck to you, and hope process goes quick and smoothly!  

[Pseudo_ 16]

It won't harm your application, I believe. But it'll make your packet thick and loaded.

 

We submitted a collage of our 2013 and 2015 photos, 1 page per year. And we got our approval with no problem.

[YecaCruz 379]

Agree with the above, there's no way it would harm your case that I can imagine. I sent minimal proof of my relationship from 2010-2014 with 2 pics + corresponding passport stamps for each visit, and a few facebook messages exchanged every 3-4 months so I could demonstrate the legitimacy of our relationship. I sorted through 10,000 pages of facebook messages lollll, can you imagine sending that pile in? Uffdah! Heck we were long distance for 5 years from when we met until filing the K1 and if that don't show that we were serious then what would! I focused on the "within 2 years" part with more pics, airline tickets, passport stamps, and exchanged messages when we talked about future plans like wedding details and what we were gonna name our kids (not just the "I miss you yadda yaddabarf").

 

Did it help our case? Not a clue. I like to think it did as my husband got off the airplane 78 days after filing. Unreal! I also give credit to God's favor.

 

 It certainly made me feel like I covered all my bases in showing them that we were/are for real. If you have a bunch of stuff and the time to organize it, do it.

 

Edit: Make sure to make a copy of EVERYTHING you send. You never know if anything will get lost in transit at any point.

Edited January 17, 2019 by YecaCruz

[Limey 551]

I think the biggest risk is that the USCIS person sees older evidence, and misses the more recent stuff, and you get an RFE for not providing proof of meeting within past 2 years. These people are human, and I imagine they don't necessarily look at every single document, especially if you provide lots of irrelevant ones. Try to help them out - give them what they need, well labelled, and don't fill their in tray with things they don't need.

 

Personally I'd focus on the 2 year and newer stuff, as that is critical at this stage. If you want to provide older evidence, bundle it separately, with a cover explaining that its additional, older than 2 years, and being provided to show length of relationship, that its genuine etc.

 

We took the same approach to ROC - I had so much relevant documentation to prove we'd co-mingled our finances (house purchase, insurance, life insurance, land swap with neighbor, tax returns, joint bank statements, travel together etc) that it seemed redundant to provide copies of every bank statement since we'd been married. I just provided copies of 2 or 3 random months during that period (typically one in each year) with a statement that I had all the others on file if they wished to see any particular ones. We got approved no problem, no RFE. For this whole process I don't think its about quantity of evidence, its about the quality. If you have good evidence of meeting in past 2 years, focus on that.

[JennaL 151]

52 minutes ago, YecaCruz said:

Uffdah! Heck we were long distance for 5 years from when we met until filing the K1 and if that don't show that we were serious then what would!

@YecaCruz, Uffdah, it's good to see another North Dakotan on here  

[YecaCruz 379]

1 hour ago, JennaL said:

@YecaCruz, Uffdah, it's good to see another North Dakotan on here  

heeeeeeeey! awesome! we dakotans have to stick together. We are few and far between here!