Previous Denials

[Queen Jenn 0]

I'm kinda worried. My fiance applied twice for a student visa last year and was denied (this was at the U.S. Embassy). He also has a denial from Canada and one from France (we were trying to meet in a different country because I couldn't afford to go to Africa). Is this going to affect the application for the Fiance Visa? Will they see the previous denials and deny the Fiance Visa?

[john_and_marlene 162]

Did you ever meet in person?

[Aniomaman 0]

I'm kinda worried. My fiance applied twice for a student visa last year and was denied (this was at the U.S. Embassy). He also has a denial from Canada and one from France (we were trying to meet in a different country because I couldn't afford to go to Africa). Is this going to affect the application for the Fiance Visa? Will they see the previous denials and deny the Fiance Visa?

previous denials from other countries will in no way hinder him from getting the K1 as long as you can show proofof ongoing/valid relationship. Goodluck!

[Krikit 1,165]

Did you ever meet in person?

The reason "john_and_marlene" is asking that question, Jenn, is because that will be the reason for the denial.

[Queen Jenn 0]

Did you ever meet in person?

Now planning a trip to Africa (I finally have enough money!!!!)

[*JG* 2]

Sounds like a real uphill battle to me. Good luck to you!

[Queen Jenn 0]

I'm kinda worried. My fiance applied twice for a student visa last year and was denied (this was at the U.S. Embassy). He also has a denial from Canada and one from France (we were trying to meet in a different country because I couldn't afford to go to Africa). Is this going to affect the application for the Fiance Visa? Will they see the previous denials and deny the Fiance Visa?

previous denials from other countries will in no way hinder him from getting the K1 as long as you can show proofof ongoing/valid relationship. Goodluck!

Thanks for the info. But two of the denials were from the U.S. (for a student visa).

Did you ever meet in person?

The reason "john_and_marlene" is asking that question, Jenn, is because that will be the reason for the denial.

I'm aware of that requirement and it will definitely be fulfilled before I submit our petition. I haven't filed yet because we haven't met. But now that I finally have enough money to get to Africa . . . . .

[john_and_marlene 162]

Denials for other visas will not cause a denial.

Your biggest challenge will be showing that a bonafide relationship exists. Often a single, short visit to satisfy the petition requirement will not be adequate to convince the consulate that such a relationship exists.

[*JG* 2]

I'm a firm believer is spending time with someone to find out how they react to others, especially when you are around, and where they come from.

[Queen Jenn 0]

Denials for other visas will not cause a denial.

Your biggest challenge will be showing that a bonafide relationship exists. Often a single, short visit to satisfy the petition requirement will not be adequate to convince the consulate that such a relationship exists.

Since he can't get a visa to come here, then how long will I need to stay in Africa for? We've been communicating through phone and internet for more than one year.

[john_and_marlene 162]

That will depend on the interviewing consular officer. The number and duration of the visits will be taken into account along with other evidence such as records of phone calls and email. I recommend asking about results from others with similar circumstances in the regional forums. Ask if others going through the consulate in Nigeria have been approved with a single visit and how long the visits were.

[john_and_marlene 162]

You have a long way to go. Simply getting an approved petition is but the first step. You will also have to show financial ability to sponsor your fiance. Extended visits may damage your ability to meet the sponsorship qualification if it reduces your income. There are also some fairly hefty fees for adjusting status to permanent residence after he arrives in the U.S. and you get married. If you are having difficulty even going for this single trip, you may want to consider a lengthier engagement before finally filing the I-129f.

[Queen Jenn 0]

You have a long way to go. Simply getting an approved petition is but the first step. You will also have to show financial ability to sponsor your fiance. Extended visits may damage your ability to meet the sponsorship qualification if it reduces your income. There are also some fairly hefty fees for adjusting status to permanent residence after he arrives in the U.S. and you get married. If you are having difficulty even going for this single trip, you may want to consider a lengthier engagement before finally filing the I-129f.

I appreciate all your advice. What has made the difference in finances is an unexpected bonus at work and my car being paid off. I make more than 200% of poverty level, so I'm thinking my ability to sponsor my fiance should be okay.

[Yodrak 7]

Queen Jenn,

You began communicating before or after the student visa applications were denied? When did the relationship start to become 'serious'?

Don't know what evidence of relationship you and your fiance will be putting together for his visa interview, but there is a possibility that the consular officer could get the impression that having failed twice to get to the US with a student visa the guy is switching a new tactic. Nigeria is, after all, at the top of the list of high-fraud countries.

Yodrak

I'm kinda worried. My fiance applied twice for a student visa last year and was denied (this was at the U.S. Embassy). ..... Will they see the previous denials and deny the Fiance Visa?

Denials for other visas will not cause a denial.

Your biggest challenge will be showing that a bonafide relationship exists. Often a single, short visit to satisfy the petition requirement will not be adequate to convince the consulate that such a relationship exists.

Since he can't get a visa to come here, then how long will I need to stay in Africa for? We've been communicating through phone and internet for more than one year.

Edited May 22, 2007 by Yodrak

[Queen Jenn 0]

We began communicating BEFORE the student visa applications. He was planning on coming here, so I offered to help him. We wanted to be together, and I figured he'd get here on the student visa. After he applied twice and was denied both times, we looked at alternate ways to be together. I think it's clear, if the CO were to read our chats and IM's that we wanted to be together from early on.

We have continued to communicate and I am going to Africa soon. As long as everything goes well in Africa, I will submit the K-1 petition when I get back.

Queen Jenn,

You began communicating before or after the student visa applications were denied? When did the relationship start to become 'serious'?

Don't know what evidence of relationship you and your fiance will be putting together for his visa interview, but there is a possibility that the consular officer could get the impression that having failed twice to get to the US with a student visa the guy is switching a new tactic. Nigeria is, after all, at the top of the list of high-fraud countries.

Yodrak

I'm kinda worried. My fiance applied twice for a student visa last year and was denied (this was at the U.S. Embassy). ..... Will they see the previous denials and deny the Fiance Visa?

Denials for other visas will not cause a denial.

Your biggest challenge will be showing that a bonafide relationship exists. Often a single, short visit to satisfy the petition requirement will not be adequate to convince the consulate that such a relationship exists.

Since he can't get a visa to come here, then how long will I need to stay in Africa for? We've been communicating through phone and internet for more than one year.