I-751 January 2019 Filers

[Charming12 59]

18 hours ago, sjn said:

I got the same Notification today? they transferred to new office... same reason as of Feb 14th.. 
You have any update? 

not yet. 

[Eric The Wait 40]

Somewhere on this thread it said there was an old site and a new site for checking case status online.

Our 751 case status says nothing except case was received. Nothing else. It doesn't even mention that we did biometrics a year ago. So for one year nothing.

I think I found address for new site, but when I plugged in my username and password nothing.

Very worried about re-registering and then having no access anywhere.

Anyone have any insights about new site and old site, address for new site and how best to access new site?

Thanks.

Eric 

[Chilindas 13]

39 minutes ago, Eric The Wait said:

Somewhere on this thread it said there was an old site and a new site for checking case status online.

Our 751 case status says nothing except case was received. Nothing else. It doesn't even mention that we did biometrics a year ago. So for one year nothing.

I think I found address for new site, but when I plugged in my username and password nothing.

Very worried about re-registering and then having no access anywhere.

Anyone have any insights about new site and old site, address for new site and how best to access new site?

Thanks.

Eric 

Old site - https://egov.uscis.gov/casestatus/mycasestatus.do?appReceiptNum=YSC1990396870

 

New Site- https://myaccount.uscis.gov

 

Login details for both are created differently. 

[mseck8688 16]

i751 initial review  ???

and stuck while when i look case tracker all cases between my numbers getting approved 

this process is pain and stressful ...

just to renew my gc this headaches thats too bad 

[Thegirl 225]

19 hours ago, mseck8688 said:

i751 initial review  ???

and stuck while when i look case tracker all cases between my numbers getting approved 

this process is pain and stressful ...

just to renew my gc this headaches thats too bad 

Some of us filed early to mid 2018 with no movement at all whatsoever so I'd say your case is actually going fast compared... 

[Cryssiekins 976]

20 hours ago, mseck8688 said:

i751 initial review  ???

and stuck while when i look case tracker all cases between my numbers getting approved 

this process is pain and stressful ...

just to renew my gc this headaches thats too bad 

It’s not “just to renew”... it’s removing conditions on your residency by proving your marriage was in good faith and not just for immigration benefits.  So yes, it’s a burdensome filing, and time consuming, but you knew going into this process what it was going to be.  And you’re in a much better position than many other people who are still separated from their loved ones.  

[sjn 0]

On 2/15/2020 at 9:57 AM, Charming12 said:

not yet. 

Bud, what was informed in the physical notice? did you get it? 

[Charming12 59]

4 hours ago, sjn said:

Bud, what was informed in the physical notice? did you get it? 

yes I did get it and all they mentioned about fast processing as a reason for transfer of my case

[aroabi 21]

On 2/16/2020 at 2:33 PM, Cryssiekins said:

 So yes, it’s a burdensome filing, and time consuming, but you knew going into this process what it was going to be. 

Depends on a case. Had I known that ROC would have taken so long, I would have waited on getting my green card. I had a H1B visa and could have applied later and gotten the permanent green card. At that time USCIS did not have this terrible backlog and even the IO said "I am sorry that your card is going to be conditional, but do not worry it is a very simple process to remove the condition". Wrong. I would recommend that CR6 filers file later and get their permanent card. My 485 adjustment took 9 month. ROC is already over a year and the n-400 will take longer than 1 year since NYC is terribly backlogged. We had a very straightforward case, yet every step has been very lengthy. 

 

[johhny5 26]

7 hours ago, aroabi said:

Depends on a case. Had I known that ROC would have taken so long, I would have waited on getting my green card. I had a H1B visa and could have applied later and gotten the permanent green card. At that time USCIS did not have this terrible backlog and even the IO said "I am sorry that your card is going to be conditional, but do not worry it is a very simple process to remove the condition". Wrong. I would recommend that CR6 filers file later and get their permanent card. My 485 adjustment took 9 month. ROC is already over a year and the n-400 will take longer than 1 year since NYC is terribly backlogged. We had a very straightforward case, yet every step has been very lengthy. 

 

 

Most people's ROC has been 12 - 18 month on average.  I don't know why you were expecting something different.

[aroabi 21]

5 hours ago, johhny5 said:

 

Most people's ROC has been 12 - 18 month on average.  I don't know why you were expecting something different.

I was expecting something different because it was not 12-18 month when I made a decision to do the i-485 and even when I filed the i-751. And it can go over 18 month for some applicants. USCIS keeps adding months to their processing time. Not all, but a lot of CR6 cases are straight forward. A lot of the applicants have been in the US for many years, have a steady employment history have valid work visas, and have undergone a stringent interview process with the IO just 2 years ago.  USCIS needs some major reforms.

Again CR6 filers unlike CR1 have the choice not to go through ROC at all. Had I known that USCIS could not effectively manage the workload, I would have skipped the ROC altogether. I regret going through ROC. It was a stupid thing to do on my part.

Edited February 18, 2020 by aroabi

[johhny5 26]

30 minutes ago, aroabi said:

I was expecting something different because it was not 12-18 month when I made a decision to do the i-485 and even when I filed the i-751. And it can go over 18 month for some applicants.

ROC have been 12- 18 months for close to 2 years now and yes it can even go longer for some but 12 - 18 month is the AVERAGE like I said.

 

 

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Again CR6 filers unlike CR1 have the choice not to go through ROC at all. Had I known that USCIS could not effectively manage the workload, I would have skipped the ROC altogether. I regret going through ROC. It was a stupid thing to do on my part.

Dude I have no idea what you are talking about.  Being a CR6, you only get a 2 year conditional greencard.  Your conditional permanent resident’s status is valid for only two years and cannot be renewed. You must file a petition to remove conditions on permanent resident status, or risk losing your lawful status.   And if it is a lawyer who told you that, I suggest getting a new one.

 

 

If you received your conditional permanent resident status through marriage to a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or being admitted to the United States as a fiancé(e) of a U.S. citizen (and then marrying the U.S. citizen), your conditional permanent resident’s status is valid for only two years and cannot be renewed. You must file a petition to remove conditions on permanent resident status, or risk losing your lawful status.

https://my.uscis.gov/exploremyoptions/remove_conditional_status

 

[aroabi 21]

43 minutes ago, johhny5 said:

ROC have been 12- 18 months for close to 2 years now and yes it can even go longer for some but 12 - 18 month is the AVERAGE like I said.

 

 

Dude I have no idea what you are talking about.  Being a CR6, you only get a 2 year conditional greencard.  Your conditional permanent resident’s status is valid for only two years and cannot be renewed. You must file a petition to remove conditions on permanent resident status, or risk losing your lawful status.   And if it is a lawyer who told you that, I suggest getting a new one.

 

 

If you received your conditional permanent resident status through marriage to a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, or being admitted to the United States as a fiancé(e) of a U.S. citizen (and then marrying the U.S. citizen), your conditional permanent resident’s status is valid for only two years and cannot be renewed. You must file a petition to remove conditions on permanent resident status, or risk losing your lawful status.

https://my.uscis.gov/exploremyoptions/remove_conditional_status

 

I agree with you that you have no idea what I am talking about because you do not understand how i-485/i751 works, and that is OK (we do not have to be experts in immigration). Most CR6 applicants are already in the USA and have a valid work/student/J1 visa. They do not need to get a green card after marriage. For example they can wait 1.5-2 years after marriage to file for i-485. When they get their green card it will be the permanent green card hence no need to do ROC. And many CR6 applicants wait to get their permanent green card  and never go through ROC. What I am saying given the backlog, it was kind of stupid on my part to get the conditional green card. I could have easily waited 6-7 month and never had to deal with ROC. Based on my experience I would recommend that CR6 filers wait. ROC is costly and time consuming, why subject yourself to that if you cab easily avoid it?  You only get a conditional green card if your marriage is less than 2 years old at the time when you get a green card.

 

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by aroabi

[Cryssiekins 976]

24 minutes ago, aroabi said:

I agree with you that you have no idea what I am talking about because you do not understand how i-485/i751 works, and that is OK (we do not have to be experts in immigration). Most CR6 applicants are already in the USA and have a valid work/student/J1 visa. They do not need to get a green card after marriage. For example they can wait 1.5-2 years after marriage to file for i-485. When they get their green card it will be the permanent green card hence no need to do ROC. And many CR6 applicants wait to get their permanent green card  and never go through ROC. What I am saying given the backlog, it was kind of stupid on my part to get the conditional green card. I could have easily waited 6-7 month and never had to deal with ROC. Based on my experience I would recommend that CR6 filers wait. ROC is costly and time consuming, why subject yourself to that if you cab easily avoid it?  You only get a conditional green card if your marriage is less than 2 years old at the time when you get a green card.

 

 

Your explanation makes sense to me, but it doesn’t change the fact that ROC has always been another expense, another big filing, and another period of waiting.  
 

The original comment I made was in reference to someone who constantly complains that ROC takes so long, even though they are well within the processing times, and that there is no weekly update, as if that was ever a thing with USCIS.  You file... you wait.... you get a decision. That’s how it works.  They don’t provide a re-dates update every week bc it’s not an ongoing review process.  Anyway.

 

Hindsight is 20-20, so I’m sorry you opted for the path you did only to regret it, but I’m sure there were pros and cons of each route.  Processing times always seem to increase.  4 years ago when I first started down this K1 journey, the process of filing the i129F to date of entry to the US, was just over 6 months.  My EAD/AP took 100 days, and shortly after that my greencard was processed.  So yeah, depending on when you filed, it may have seemed like a good idea to do it when you did, so I wouldn’t feel too badly over that   I also feel is dangerous for K1’s to delay filing their adjustment solely to skip ROC bc that puts the immigrant in a terrible position after those first 90 days.  

[aroabi 21]

1 hour ago, Cryssiekins said:

Your explanation makes sense to me, but it doesn’t change the fact that ROC has always been another expense, another big filing, and another period of waiting.  
 

The original comment I made was in reference to someone who constantly complains that ROC takes so long, even though they are well within the processing times, and that there is no weekly update, as if that was ever a thing with USCIS.  You file... you wait.... you get a decision. That’s how it works.  They don’t provide a re-dates update every week bc it’s not an ongoing review process.  Anyway.

 

Hindsight is 20-20, so I’m sorry you opted for the path you did only to regret it, but I’m sure there were pros and cons of each route.  Processing times always seem to increase.  4 years ago when I first started down this K1 journey, the process of filing the i129F to date of entry to the US, was just over 6 months.  My EAD/AP took 100 days, and shortly after that my greencard was processed.  So yeah, depending on when you filed, it may have seemed like a good idea to do it when you did, so I wouldn’t feel too badly over that   I also feel is dangerous for K1’s to delay filing their adjustment solely to skip ROC bc that puts the immigrant in a terrible position after those first 90 days.  

K1 is a different situation, and probably is not worth waiting, but CR6 applicants who have steady employment/student visas can easily wait. For me there was no upside. I had to terminate my H1B visa after I got the green card.

 Some people will complain no matter what, but I think a lot people who complain are from metro areas. USCIS has failed to allocate their resources properly. It’s unacceptable that one applicant gets their n-400 or another application done on under 6 months while most applicants from backlogged metro areas have to wait 13-21months. We paid the same fee. If metro areas have more applicants than USCIS is getting more money from those applications and have to have more officers to process those cases. Likewise, if certain areas do not get that many cases than the offices from those areas have to relocated/rehired to the backlogged areas.

People in metro areas are getting increasingly tired with USCIS’s practices and especially their lack of transparency, and you see some of that frustration on those boards. 

For example, they approve an i-751 case under 10 months, yet another applicant that filed the same day and paid the same fee gets approved at 23^rd months. And the only explanation that USCIS has is that they were in different piles or were assigned to different officers. USCIS has to organize their piles accordingly, they have to impose internal deadlines to their officers so that they process the cases in reasonable amount of time and do not seat on cases for 20 months without touching it. For example VSC is possessing a case that was filed 9 months ago yet someone who filed 17 months ago is still waiting. So you do not expect the applicant who's waiting for 17 month and is seeing people approved under 10 month get frustrated? They say they process the cases in the order they receive them but do not practice it. We understand that they have more applicants and the processing times are going to increase across the board, but they have to do better job with allocating their resources evenly to avoid this terrible backlog in certain metro areas. That is all. There are i751 cases that are stuck and the only way to move them is to file n-400. Yet in NYC it takes 13.5-21 month to process the n-400. Even between different NYC boroughs USCIS processing times differ significantly and they can't even streamline that.

Their practices cost people jobs/careers, missed moments with their families etc. For example with expired green card and pending n-400, I am less likely to take a job that requires me to travel extensively or an employment that requires me to spend significant amount of time oversees.

 

Edited February 18, 2020 by aroabi