Petition returned to USCIS through NVC

[Summerleaf 4]

After waiting for almost 60 days. I got a letter from the embassy that my petition is being returned to USCIS through NVC for additional processing. 

 

I was approved in the interview and passport was surrendered and not given a 221g form.

 

Do you have any idea if we can apply a new application now? Or there is something we have to wait?  Time, notice?etc. @Greenbaum @Hank

 

Only rational comments are invited and participants with the same experience.

 

Thank you.

 

[Unshakable Faith 493]

3 minutes ago, Summerleaf said:

After waiting for almost 60 days. I got a letter from the embassy that my petition is being returned to USCIS through NVC for additional processing. 

 

I was approved in the interview and passport was surrendered and not given a 221g form.

 

Do you have any idea if we can apply a new application now? Or there is something we have to wait?  Time, notice?etc. @Greenbaum @Hank

 

Only rational comments are invited and participants with the same experience.

 

Thank you.

 

Have you followed up with the embassy via email or phone?

 

I-129F petitions are only sent back to USCIS when the visa is refused and the petition goes back to USCIS to expire. 

 

Follow up and get your senator involved!

Edited December 14, 2018 by Unshakable Faith

[Summerleaf 4]

1 minute ago, Unshakable Faith said:

Have you followed up with the embassy via email or phone?

 

I-129F petitions are only sent back to USCIS when the visa is refused and the petition goes back to USCIS to expire. 

 

Follow up and get your senator involved!

Yes we called the USCIS and email the embassy the embassy said to call the USCIS NSCS, however the USCIS NSCS confirmed that there is no petition forwarded to them so they are not aware what appropriate action to execute. They are vert accommodating and gave us a returned call to make sure they feedback the accurate answer.

[geowrian 22,337]

Why is the petition being returned? Did the embassy say anything?

 

A returned I-129F will sit to expire. If they've already sent it back to NVC, it's effectively dead.

 

What's the background of your case?

• How long have you known each other? How many visits have you had and for how long? What relationship evidence was sent with the petition (if any)?
• Any red flags?
• Were either of you ever married in the past?
• Any criminal history by the petitioner (including anything expunged, sealed, etc.)? Was it disclosed on the I-129F?
• Did you have any sort of engagement ceremony?

I'm shooting blind here, but the answers above may point at some common causes of the petition being returned.

[Summerleaf 4]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

Why is the petition being returned? Did the embassy say anything?

 

A returned I-129F will sit to expire. If they've already sent it back to NVC, it's effectively dead.

 

What's the background of your case?

• How long have you known each other? How many visits have you had and for how long? What relationship evidence was sent with the petition (if any)?
• Any red flags?
• Were either of you ever married in the past?
• Any criminal history by the petitioner (including anything expunged, sealed, etc.)? Was it disclosed on the I-129F?
• Did you have any sort of engagement ceremony?

I'm shooting blind here, but the answers above may point at some common causes of the petition being returned.

2 petitions from 2 different petitioner with more than 2 years gap of filing. (2015 and end 2017).

 

19 minutes ago, Unshakable Faith said:

Have you followed up with the embassy via email or phone?

 

I-129F petitions are only sent back to USCIS when the visa is refused and the petition goes back to USCIS to expire. 

 

Follow up and get your senator involved!

We contacted the Congressman and Senatore but there is no news from them

[Moses Bee 276]

26 minutes ago, Summerleaf said:

After waiting for almost 60 days. I got a letter from the embassy that my petition is being returned to USCIS through NVC for additional processing. 

 

I was approved in the interview and passport was surrendered and not given a 221g form.

 

Do you have any idea if we can apply a new application now? Or there is something we have to wait?  Time, notice?etc. @Greenbaum @Hank

 

Only rational comments are invited and participants with the same experience.

 

Thank you.

 

Pls you said your interview had been approved and why then your passport not taking and been surrendered by you ?

That is what I didn't understand , pls explain in details !

[ourjourney_pc 118]

1 hour ago, Summerleaf said:

After waiting for almost 60 days. I got a letter from the embassy that my petition is being returned to USCIS through NVC for additional processing. 

 

I was approved in the interview and passport was surrendered and not given a 221g form.

 

Do you have any idea if we can apply a new application now? Or there is something we have to wait?  Time, notice?etc. @Greenbaum @Hank

 

Only rational comments are invited and participants with the same experience.

 

Thank you.

 

wow, so this can happen.. it makes me worry ...

 

kindly update us on this. thank you

[TandSarahJane 178]

do you know if there was a hit on NBI or CENOMAR?

[John & Rose 7,239]

6 hours ago, Moses Bee said:

Pls you said your interview had been approved and why then your passport not taking and been surrendered by you ?

That is what I didn't understand , pls explain in details !

The same happened to us.  We were congratulated by the CO, handed the IMBRA pamphlets and my now wife's passport was taken.  A few days later it was returned with the refusal letter.  We were denied after the interview in AP.  While this may not be common it is also not uncommon.

 

The letter stated that the petition was sent back to USCIS for additional processing.  The additional processing is just holding it until it expires.  A few months later we got a letter from USCIS stating that the petition has expired and no further processing would be done.

 

As @geowrian stated, in our case it was a 30 year old dropped and expunged misdemeanor arrest.  I followed the advice of the company we paid to help with the petition and we should not have.  Our official reason for denial was "the petitioner failed to disclose information in the petition".  It would have been so easy to just answer "yes" but we answered "no" to the "any arrests...." question.

 

We are now married and are 95 days into our CR-1 process.  It is not the end of the world.  Refocus and make a plan.  This isn't over yet.

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by John & Rose

[ourjourney_pc 118]

6 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

The same happened to us.  We were congratulated by the CO, handed the IMBRA pamphlets and my now wife's passport was taken.  A few days later it was returned with the refusal letter.  We were denied after the interview in AP.  While this may not be common it is also not uncommon.

 

The letter stated that the petition was sent back to USCIS for additional processing.  The additional processing is just holding it until it expires.  A few months later we got a letter from USCIS stating that the petition has expired and no further processing would be done.

Did you ever knew what's the reason for refusal? 

[John & Rose 7,239]

1 minute ago, ourjourney_pc said:

Did you ever knew what's the reason for refusal? 

I went back and edited the original comment to give more info.  Go back and look at it again.

[ourjourney_pc 118]

1 minute ago, John & Rose said:

I went back and edited the original comment to give more info.  Go back and look at it again.

Thank you so much for enlightenment.. 

[ourjourney_pc 118]

12 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

The same happened to us.  We were congratulated by the CO, handed the IMBRA pamphlets and my now wife's passport was taken.  A few days later it was returned with the refusal letter.  We were denied after the interview in AP.  While this may not be common it is also not uncommon.

 

The letter stated that the petition was sent back to USCIS for additional processing.  The additional processing is just holding it until it expires.  A few months later we got a letter from USCIS stating that the petition has expired and no further processing would be done.

 

As @geowrian stated, in our case it was a 30 year old dropped and expunged misdemeanor arrest.  I followed the advice of the company we paid to help with the petition and we should not have.  Our official reason for denial was "the petitioner failed to disclose information in the petition".  It would have been so easy to just answer "yes" but we answered "no" to the "any arrests...." question.

 

We are now married and are 95 days into our CR-1 process.  It is not the end of the world.  Refocus and make a plan.  This isn't over yet.

 

But can we say that this means, uscis missed this out the first time? Were they supposed to check this in uscis stage.. 

[John & Rose 7,239]

2 minutes ago, ourjourney_pc said:

But can we say that this means, uscis missed this out the first time? Were they supposed to check this in uscis stage.. 

We were wondering that too.  Either they missed it (it does happen) or they just let it go since the petition only has two things to prove.  The initial adjudicator looks to see that we met and that we are both legally free to marry.  They did their job.  That is how I look at it.  Everyone has a job to do and the arrest didn't stop them from their original task.

 

It is possible that they knew about an imminent refusal but that would come later at AP or with the CO if they determined to refuse at that point.

Edited December 14, 2018 by John & Rose

[ourjourney_pc 118]

16 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

The same happened to us.  We were congratulated by the CO, handed the IMBRA pamphlets and my now wife's passport was taken.  A few days later it was returned with the refusal letter.  We were denied after the interview in AP.  While this may not be common it is also not uncommon.

 

The letter stated that the petition was sent back to USCIS for additional processing.  The additional processing is just holding it until it expires.  A few months later we got a letter from USCIS stating that the petition has expired and no further processing would be done.

 

As @geowrian stated, in our case it was a 30 year old dropped and expunged misdemeanor arrest.  I followed the advice of the company we paid to help with the petition and we should not have.  Our official reason for denial was "the petitioner failed to disclose information in the petition".  It would have been so easy to just answer "yes" but we answered "no" to the "any arrests...." question.

 

We are now married and are 95 days into our CR-1 process.  It is not the end of the world.  Refocus and make a plan.  This isn't over yet.

 

Wait... You mentioned that a member said that was the reason.. Prolly based on the info you provided...? But it means the letter from Uscis did not mentioned it.?