We got NOIR need help

[Going through 5,671]

9 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

Would agree with others, two other big issues are the age gap, which can be overcome with lots of visits and face time.... but then you said you haven't seen eachother but once since the marriage?

They have seen each other 0 times since the trip when the marriage took place, it seems.

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

2 minutes ago, Going through said:

They have seen each other 0 times since the trip when the marriage took place, it seems.

 

Even worse. Think I mistook the marriage trip as the one after the marriage for some reason, good catch.

[Michael2017 368]

Yes, there are many problems here. 

1. Married at first visit.

2. Seen each other only 1 time.

3. 15 year older women (A 15 year older man would not cause any issue anywhere I guess).

 

You need professional help as others have suggested.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

3 minutes ago, Sparrow said:

Well I know they care about age thing but we don't care I know it's going to be age problem my family accept this I accept this we will fight with them until death so let's see who is going to win age is just number I love my wife and I will love her forever and ever we have strong love 

Well "they" are the ones that issue the visa, not you nor your family!  

[Sparrow 23]

28 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

I don't think it is normal anywhere.  

I think many people having relationship with older ladies in usa I saw documentaries on it and my wife have friend she having 30 years age gap with her husband and her husband is also from pakistan age is just number we don't care about age we are happy in our marriage 

[Sparrow 23]

3 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

 

Even worse. Think I mistook the marriage trip as the one after the marriage for some reason, good catch.

That was our big mistake we should havnt married at first time visit 

[aaron2020 11,651]

1 minute ago, Sparrow said:

I think many people having relationship with older ladies in usa I saw documentaries on it and my wife have friend she having 30 years age gap with her husband and her husband is also from pakistan age is just number we don't care about age we are happy in our marriage 

Pakistan is not America.  Your local cultural norm is at issue.  What's normal in the US is not normal in your country.

[gregcrs2 1,778]

1 minute ago, Sparrow said:

I think many people having relationship with older ladies in usa I saw documentaries on it and my wife have friend she having 30 years age gap with her husband and her husband is also from pakistan age is just number we don't care about age we are happy in our marriage 

SORRY BUT YOU HAVE ZERO EVIDENCE OF A BONA FIDE MARRIAGE.

[Sparrow 23]

2 minutes ago, gregcrs2 said:

Well "they" are the ones that issue the visa, not you nor your family!  

Do you have any idea what we have to do? 

[Going through 5,671]

6 minutes ago, Sparrow said:

I think many people having relationship with older ladies in usa I saw documentaries on it and my wife have friend she having 30 years age gap with her husband and her husband is also from pakistan age is just number we don't care about age we are happy in our marriage 

The point that you're missing is that when it comes to immigration, your opinion on a 15-year or 30-year age gap isn't the opinion that matters.

Have you looked into options for living in a third country together as a Plan B?

 

And in case the third country to be considered would be Canada----with a NOIR/revocation in your history, Canada would likely refuse you as well.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Going through

[Kastrs 723]

2 minutes ago, Sparrow said:

Do you have any idea what we have to do? 

I think you have been given solid advice already, get a qualified lawyer, respond to every point in the NOIR with objective evidence, work on a bonafide relationship spend time together 

[aaron2020 11,651]

11 minutes ago, Sparrow said:

Well I know they care about age thing but we don't care I know it's going to be age problem my family accept this I accept this we will fight with them until death so let's see who is going to win age is just number I love my wife and I will love her forever and ever we have strong love 

So you are planning to fight the US Government until death?  You thinking you're going to win by fighting with them?

 

 

[Gibus 202]

At this point it's not the forum help that you need it's a lawyer help, like everybody said already.

[Boiler 45,735]

1 minute ago, Kastrs said:

I think you have been given solid advice already, get a qualified lawyer, respond to every point in the NOIR with objective evidence, work on a bonafide relationship spend time together 

They do not seem to have any.

 

My only suggestion is that she moves.

[Kastrs 723]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

They do not seem to have any.

 

My only suggestion is that she moves.

At this point I am not really sure how they can overcome the NOIR, so definitely need more facetime, build the relationship, maybe in the end this petition will die and they will have to refile after spending more time together 

I think it could be nice to live in Pakistan for a while, but considering the wife seems to be scared of a visit, I have no idea how she would wrap her head around moving there 🤣