I must cancel this journey

[Nagishkaw 510]

I know, but it is good to read timothyjellis' post concerning who the REAL Americans are.

[KarenCee 3]

I know, but it is good to read timothyjellis' post concerning who the REAL Americans are.

I agree, being Native American myself...but opinions like theirs needed to be posted in OT and it's not doing the OP any good to have all this negative crud when she needs help and support.

[Nagishkaw 510]

you are right, KarenCee !

[KarenCee 3]

This thread is a month old...........

Yes....we all fall for it at some point. Even me Still, I felt that if the OP decided to come back she certainly didn't need to see all this negativity at a time when she needed our support and advice.

[billsafari 0]

Bush talks to all the Immigration Head Officers and is responsible for the breakups of couples due to delays from bad paperwork and just the fact that certain countries just have more people trying to immigrate than others... this kinda reminds me of everyone saying Bush put a bomb in the ocean during Hurricane Katrina to make it go towards New Orleans.. hmm... and Bush responsible for Global Warming... all his cows I guess? and Bush responsible for oil prices going high (Let's not say its the greedy oil companies in the middle east understanding supply and demand in America).

One question I think you ppl should ask to yourselves when you come up with such dumb comments about immigration and why the US has an immigration policy and a procedure to follow... How do you think it would be if we allowed EVERYONE in the world come who felt like it, without a screening process nor an application. No checks, no concern if someone will become a public charge to the country. No nothing. Just total anarchy.. there would be no control over society.

Let's stay on topic and not bring silly comments into such a great helpfullll board like VJ.

[trueimage 0]

This thread is a month old...........

Yes....we all fall for it at some point. Even me Still, I felt that if the OP decided to come back she certainly didn't need to see all this negativity at a time when she needed our support and advice.

Yeah, I'm guilty too....

[Danlu 0]

billsafari,

I myself am all for the fence, but I doubt all 20 million are losers and a cancer seems a little harsh!

This thread is a month old...........

Yes....we all fall for it at some point. Even me Still, I felt that if the OP decided to come back she certainly didn't need to see all this negativity at a time when she needed our support and advice.

Yeah, I'm guilty too....

[KarenCee 3]

Where's a train wreck icon when you need it eh? This thread is seriously derailed...

[bora bora 1]

Daniel...

I know your fiance!! She helped my husband in Manaus to get his vaccines and bought me BEAUTIFUL presents! Good luck and I hope your touches mean an approval.

[BelwinMills 0]

sorry to hear that it did not work out.

[iamjasonbunch 0]

Procedure??? ...

Nobody said we didnt have an illegal immigration problem... and I'm all up for strict policies on immigration.. especially stopping all the illegal mexicans and terrorist slipping through the Mexican border. But from what this thread was talking about, the solution seemed to be that the policy needs to be less strict. Americans need to put their panties on, and try to not be so politically correct always, and especially stop trying to find solutions that will make everyone happy.

[L_n_O 3]

Good luck to both of you..

I'm sure this must have been a very difficult decision..

[billsafari 0]

Procedure??? ...

Nobody said we didnt have an illegal immigration problem... and I'm all up for strict policies on immigration.. especially stopping all the illegal mexicans and terrorist slipping through the Mexican border. But from what this thread was talking about, the solution seemed to be that the policy needs to be less strict. Americans need to put their panties on, and try to not be so politically correct always, and especially stop trying to find solutions that will make everyone happy.

I couldnt agree more.

[JoeCanuk 3]

Bush talks to all the Immigration Head Officers and is responsible for the breakups of couples due to delays from bad paperwork and just the fact that certain countries just have more people trying to immigrate than others... this kinda reminds me of everyone saying Bush put a bomb in the ocean during Hurricane Katrina to make it go towards New Orleans.. hmm... and Bush responsible for Global Warming... all his cows I guess? and Bush responsible for oil prices going high (Let's not say its the greedy oil companies in the middle east understanding supply and demand in America).

One question I think you ppl should ask to yourselves when you come up with such dumb comments about immigration and why the US has an immigration policy and a procedure to follow... How do you think it would be if we allowed EVERYONE in the world come who felt like it, without a screening process nor an application. No checks, no concern if someone will become a public charge to the country. No nothing. Just total anarchy.. there would be no control over society.

Let's stay on topic and not bring silly comments into such a great helpfullll board like VJ.

Procedure??? Last time I checked we had 20 million losers from Mexico here eating up our social programs and taking jobs from America's less fortunate. You know your country is being overrun when you have to press 1 to get english. Nice procedure?? My girl is educated, knows english and she has go through a bunch of BS to come here yet 20 million losers with no education , most cant speak english just come over the border??? Some procedure??? Round this cancer up and send them back and build a fence with a mine field. Let the people who can add value to the country and show respect come in without the BS. Let the losers who come illegally and then think they are entitled to something wait 6 months or longer after they get deported. Procedure?? Gimmie a break.

Maybe they'll show respect when you start showing respect? Your English is lacking as well.

Those people want to come to the states like many other people. Some of them people can't afford it. So they do what YOUR forefathers did. Packed everything up and just WENT there!

To the OP: sorry it went like that. I wish you the best in the future.

[bakofoil 27]

Procedure??? Last time I checked we had 20 million losers from Mexico here eating up our social programs and taking jobs from America's less fortunate. You know your country is being overrun when you have to press 1 to get english. Nice procedure?? My girl is educated, knows english and she has go through a bunch of BS to come here yet 20 million losers with no education , most cant speak english just come over the border??? Some procedure??? Round this cancer up and send them back and build a fence with a mine field. Let the people who can add value to the country and show respect come in without the BS. Let the losers who come illegally and then think they are entitled to something wait 6 months or longer after they get deported. Procedure?? Gimmie a break.

I don't suppose you noticed that the thread opener's partner was from Mexico.

And, as far as I can tell, it's the American government (and many others) who encourage illegal immigration. Californian agriculture, as an example, thrives on employing people illegally, paying them low wages with no benefits. Giving them jobs that seemingly no one else wishes or can afford to do. Since most of these businesses are conglomerate agricultural companies it seems unusual to me that the government can't keep a track on exactly who they are employing. My guess is they turn a blind eye.

I don't think it's particularly helpful for anyone to turn this thread into a rampage against Mexicans or immigrants from any background. Besides which, we all need to check up on history a bit more often before branding a whole people as cancerous.

It might be helpful for you to know that "The United States in 1846 declared war on Mexico, and during the course of that war American military forces seized California. The war was fueled in part by feelings of Manifest Destiny, a popular sentiment in the United States that viewed the expansion of the nation as an inevitability."

I could go on, but I really think a political debate in the context of the original question is somewhat tasteless.