Recieved NOIR

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

5 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

I will try to add her in mine but dont u think that uscis will wonder y we add them in these bills since they dont live with us in usa ??

LISTEN

we are teilling u what USCIS wants

they ask for further proof of marriage/ this is comminling assests to prove marriage is real

it is what many of us had to do

 

(vii) Good faith marriage. Evidence of good faith at the time of marriage may include, but is not limited to, proof that one spouse has been listed as the other's spouse on insurance policies, property leases, income tax forms, or bank accounts; and testimony or other evidence regarding courtship, wedding ceremony, shared residence and experiences. Other types of readily available evidence might include the birth certificates of children born to the abuser and the spouse; police, medical, or court documents providing information about the relationship; and affidavits of persons with personal knowledge of the relationship. All credible relevant evidence will be considered. 

 

from this letter recd from USCIS

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/err/B9 - Battered Spouse or Child/Decisions_Issued_in_2006/Dec142006_05B9204.pdf

Edited November 20, 2018 by adil-rafa

[Ali12345 2]

4 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

LISTEN

we are teilling u what USCIS wants

they ask for further proof of marriage/ this is comminling assests to prove marriage is real

it is what many of us had to do

 

(vii) Good faith marriage. Evidence of good faith at the time of marriage may include, but is not limited to, proof that one spouse has been listed as the other's spouse on insurance policies, property leases, income tax forms, or bank accounts; and testimony or other evidence regarding courtship, wedding ceremony, shared residence and experiences. Other types of readily available evidence might include the birth certificates of children born to the abuser and the spouse; police, medical, or court documents providing information about the relationship; and affidavits of persons with personal knowledge of the relationship. All credible relevant evidence will be considered. 

 

from this letter recd from USCIS

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/err/B9 - Battered Spouse or Child/Decisions_Issued_in_2006/Dec142006_05B9204.pdf

Ok thank you and yeah I will do any thing to bring my wife to live with me 

[TBoneTX 45,273]

Thread is moved from the K-3 Process forum to the CR-1 Process forum.

[dwheels76 5,468]

I am gathering from you responses that you and your wife really sent nothing with your I-130 petition so the CO had nothing to go by. You didn't even send in pictures? What country is interview in?

 

I have done many NOIR's and what you need to do is go through that letter line by line and address each denial point.

Example they say: No proof of a bonafide marriage you show your pictures and chats and highlight your talks about the future and what you plans are. Whether it's career, children, where to live, etc.

 

Is there anyway you can post what they said word for word and leave out personal things like names?

 

I disagree that you need to run out and make a bunch of comingling evidence when you obviously don't live together. Creating new stuff doesn't help because they deem that as creating for them. I have even seen NOIR's that have stated no evidence can be submitted that took place after the interview. Trust me they feel that way. Look into what you have now to work with.

 

You should have done more and add her to some things like:

1. Work In case of Emergency

2. Life Insurance

3. 401K beneficiary
4. Filing single or married matters not at this point you can amend later. You don't have no time to do it now and submit.
5. you need a relationship timeline and highlight the important dates of visits, wedding, special events. Heck you visited another country together.

6. Pictures of wedding, visits, her with family and  friends. Spontaneous things. Send it.

7. Your communications, IM, Chats, Phone logs.

8. Get affidavits from family and friends (3 to 5) who have seen you in person attesting to your marriage.

 

This is a NOIR you need to not hold back and send everything and the kitchen sink. You only get one shot at it. Think of it this way if you are a CO with this case what is it you wan t see to show this couple is real and true and will stand the test of time.

[Ali12345 2]

10 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

I am gathering from you responses that you and your wife really sent nothing with your I-130 petition so the CO had nothing to go by. You didn't even send in pictures? What country is interview in?

 

I have done many NOIR's and what you need to do is go through that letter line by line and address each denial point.

Example they say: No proof of a bonafide marriage you show your pictures and chats and highlight your talks about the future and what you plans are. Whether it's career, children, where to live, etc.

 

Is there anyway you can post what they said word for word and leave out personal things like names?

 

I disagree that you need to run out and make a bunch of comingling evidence when you obviously don't live together. Creating new stuff doesn't help because they deem that as creating for them. I have even seen NOIR's that have stated no evidence can be submitted that took place after the interview. Trust me they feel that way. Look into what you have now to work with.

 

You should have done more and add her to some things like:

1. Work In case of Emergency

2. Life Insurance

3. 401K beneficiary
4. Filing single or married matters not at this point you can amend later. You don't have no time to do it now and submit.
5. you need a relationship timeline and highlight the important dates of visits, wedding, special events. Heck you visited another country together.

6. Pictures of wedding, visits, her with family and  friends. Spontaneous things. Send it.

7. Your communications, IM, Chats, Phone logs.

8. Get affidavits from family and friends (3 to 5) who have seen you in person attesting to your marriage.

 

This is a NOIR you need to not hold back and send everything and the kitchen sink. You only get one shot at it. Think of it this way if you are a CO with this case what is it you wan t see to show this couple is real and true and will stand the test of time.

They didnt ask about any thing on the interview we sent them all paper ,but the consular because we are cosion thought its bonfide marriage

[dwheels76 5,468]

31 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

They didnt ask about any thing on the interview we sent them all paper ,but the consular because we are cosion thought its bonfide marriage

Wait what? You are cousins? I know some countries they approve. But you still have to show it's not just for immigration purposes.

[Ali12345 2]

14 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

Wait what? You are cousins? I know some countries they approve. But you still have to show it's not just for immigration purposes.

Yes we are muslim we can marry from cousins and its legal , and thats what am trying to approve to uscis

[Ali12345 2]

59 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

I am gathering from you responses that you and your wife really sent nothing with your I-130 petition so the CO had nothing to go by. You didn't even send in pictures? What country is interview in?

 

I have done many NOIR's and what you need to do is go through that letter line by line and address each denial point.

Example they say: No proof of a bonafide marriage you show your pictures and chats and highlight your talks about the future and what you plans are. Whether it's career, children, where to live, etc.

 

Is there anyway you can post what they said word for word and leave out personal things like names?

 

I disagree that you need to run out and make a bunch of comingling evidence when you obviously don't live together. Creating new stuff doesn't help because they deem that as creating for them. I have even seen NOIR's that have stated no evidence can be submitted that took place after the interview. Trust me they feel that way. Look into what you have now to work with.

 

You should have done more and add her to some things like:

1. Work In case of Emergency

2. Life Insurance

3. 401K beneficiary
4. Filing single or married matters not at this point you can amend later. You don't have no time to do it now and submit.
5. you need a relationship timeline and highlight the important dates of visits, wedding, special events. Heck you visited another country together.

6. Pictures of wedding, visits, her with family and  friends. Spontaneous things. Send it.

7. Your communications, IM, Chats, Phone logs.

8. Get affidavits from family and friends (3 to 5) who have seen you in person attesting to your marriage.

 

This is a NOIR you need to not hold back and send everything and the kitchen sink. You only get one shot at it. Think of it this way if you are a CO with this case what is it you wan t see to show this couple is real and true and will stand the test of time.

So how can I do the affidavit , do they have to just write it and sign it and send it to more info about this point plz

[geowrian 22,337]

13 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

Yes we are muslim we can marry from cousins and its legal , and thats what am trying to approve to uscis

1) You need to show it is bona fide, not just legal.

2) What state will you reside in? If it is illegal in the state, that's an even bigger issue. US follows US laws.

[Ali12345 2]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

1) You need to show it is bona fide, not just legal.

2) What state will you reside in? If it is illegal in the state, that's an even bigger issue. US follows US laws.

I live in pensylvania which its not legal but now I will go to vergenia which is legal there

Edited November 20, 2018 by Ali12345

[Ali12345 2]

25 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

So how can I do the affidavit , do they have to just write it and sign it and send it to more info about this point plz

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

5 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

I live in pensylvania which its not legal but now I will go to vergenia which is legal there

You'll need to show that you live in VA they won't approve the visa while you're still in PA.  Did they mention this in the NOIR?  If not mentioned in the NOIR you'll need it by the next interview if its mentioned you'll need to have proof of a VA residence now. 

 

You have 30 days to respond if you haven't moved yet this could be problematic.

 

Our NOIR stated bot enough evidence of bonafide although I think it's in all NOIRs ive seen.  We submitted:

 

Evidence of our 4 trips together (at that time)

Chat logs

Phone logs

Affidavits from family and friends 

Lots of pictures 

Tax returns (married filing separately)

My insurance info with him listed as beneficiary 

His health insurance listing me as his wife and included on his plan

Subscriptions he receives at our home

His FRC from Pakistan 

 

I could be forgetting something but all above was sufficient for uscis.

 

 

 

 

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

7 minutes ago, Ali12345 said:

So its listed...  You MUST supply proof of your new residence in VA with your rebuttal.

[Ali12345 2]

19 minutes ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

So its listed...  You MUST supply proof of your new residence in VA with your rebuttal.

I curantly staying,with my friend Do you think this is good prove that I live in vergenia ?

 

Edited November 20, 2018 by Ali12345

[Pennycat 880]

Just now, Ali12345 said:

I curantly staying,with my friend Do you think this is good prove that I live in vergenia ?

 

Not really. They're going to want to see your Virginia driver's licence, your bank statements going to your new address etc. Also, you don't need to bother with notaries, you just include the phrase " l declare under penalty of perjury (under the laws of the United States of America) that the foregoing is true and correct". A notary just proves the identity of the person who signed it; not that they're telling the truth. 

Also, if you're trying to hide where you now live, the zipcode gives it away (I live close by, recognize it). 

 

I think that this point, you need to involve a lawyer. NOIRs are serious, you've got a few other complications and don't seem to be understanding what people are telling you to do (and... are you really moving to Virginia? If you're not, they will know in 5 seconds). 

 

The bottom line here is that people who are married almost always share finances. That is pretty much the #1 proof they're looking for. You can find whatever excuse you want for not being able to provide that kind of proof, but thousands of people in your situation manage to every year. And they're not even trying to generate proof for immigration-- they're just living their lives as typical married couples (although separated by distance). You keep saying "we can't, we don't live together yet" as if there aren't thousands of other married couples who don't live together yet. I won't pass judgement on the bona fides of the marriage (bona fide is different than legal), but I will tell you that given the lack of evidence you gave, the NOIR and your general approach to this, it is clear that you left a strong impression with the government that you're doing this for immigration purposes. You'll need more help than Visajourney can give to overcome that impression.