Can't Take Shots at Medical Checkup

[HP+IC 292]

3 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

Checkmate. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Supplements/Supplements_by_Post/KEV_Kyiv.html#vaccination_requirements

 

Vaccination Requirements

 

For Immigrant Visa Applicants Only, not for K visa applicants

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U.S. immigration law requires immigrant visa applicants to obtain certain vaccinations (listed below) prior to the issuance of an immigrant visa. Panel physicians who conduct medical examinations are required to verify that immigrant visa applicants have met vaccination requirements, or that it is medically inappropriate for the visa applicant to receive one or more of the listed vaccinations:

Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, rotavirus, hib, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, meningococcal, varicella, pneumococcal, influenza

In order to assist the panel physician and to avoid delays in the processing of an immigrant visa, all immigrant visa applicants should have their vaccination records available for the panel physician’s review at the time of the immigrant medical examination. Visa applicants should consult with their regular health care provider to obtain a copy of their immunization record, if one is available. If you do not have a vaccination record, the panel physician will work with you to determine which vaccinations you may need to meet the requirements. Certain waivers of the vaccination requirement are available upon the recommendation of the panel physician. Only a physician can determine which of the listed vaccinations are medically appropriate for you, given your age, medical history, and current medical condition.

Why argue with a lawyer  Besides, if these requirements were applicable to Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and a whole lot of post USSR countries, many a US fiance would warm their own beds forever alone

Edited November 11, 2018 by HP+IC

[Greenbaum 12,259]

1 minute ago, HP+IC said:

Why argue with a lawyer

Sorry but not a lawyer but I have been dong this a tad more than you. If you can use "facts" then I am all in for changing my answer and learning from you. I find that sometimes I am wrong. Around here things can change on the drop of a dime so that's why I asked for your source. I took my time and read through what you "quoted" which led me to the same answer that our conversation started from. BTW. Good luck on your journey.

 

[HP+IC 292]

38 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

Sorry but not a lawyer but I have been dong this a tad more than you. If you can use "facts" then I am all in for changing my answer and learning from you. I find that sometimes I am wrong. Around here things can change on the drop of a dime so that's why I asked for your source. I took my time and read through what you "quoted" which led me to the same answer that our conversation started from. BTW. Good luck on your journey.

 

Thank you. I personally appreciate advice you're giving to VJers a lot. The final explanatory  reference https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

 

Medical Examination and Vaccination Requirements

K visa applicants are encouraged to get the vaccinations required under U.S. immigration law for immigrant visa applicants.  Although such vaccinations are not required for K visa issuance, they will be required when adjusting status to that of legal permanent resident following your marriage. Applicants are therefore encouraged to fulfill these vaccination requirements at the time of the medical examination. See Vaccination Requirements for IV Applicants for the list of required vaccinations and additional information.

 

Since half of those shots are not physically available outside the US or Europe, it will be discriminatory to request them. Also K1s are doing a non-immigrant DS-160 like B1/B2s etc instead of DS-260 which CR1/IR1s do, so their vaccinations are handled in a clearly different way. And finally, once having immigrated and filed for AOS, your vaccinations will come for you though probably in a more civilized way and at much bigger cost right out of your pocket. So K1 may not be denied due to lack of vaccinations.

[Diane and Chris 651]

The only two vaccines that she may have problems with are MMR and flu vaccine. She can get the rest as they are not made with egg products. She can probably get a waiver for the MMR and I believe the flu vaccine is optional. Good luck!  

[JMEngland 438]

@Greenbaumand @HP+IC, it seems like there is confusion because you're arguing with each other, but you both are on the same side of the argument somehow.

 

Look back at both of your posts. Both of you support the argument that immunizations are encouraged but not required for K1 visas. 

[TM92 527]

1 hour ago, JMEngland said:

@Greenbaumand @HP+IC, it seems like there is confusion because you're arguing with each other, but you both are on the same side of the argument somehow.

 

Look back at both of your posts. Both of you support the argument that immunizations are encouraged but not required for K1 visas. 

Looks like the confusion began with a typo in one of @Greenbaum's post that was fixed a couple minutes later; maybe @HP+IC didn't see the edit was recently made.

Original post:

12 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

No they will deny her because of the vaccination. Certain waivers of the vaccination requirement are available upon the recommendation of the panel physician.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/vaccinations.html

Edited post:

12 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

No they will not deny her because of the vaccination. Certain waivers of the vaccination requirement are available upon the recommendation of the panel physician.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/vaccinations.html  and

 

K visa applicants are encouraged to get the vaccinations required under U.S. immigration law for immigrant visa applicants.  Although such vaccinations are not required for K visa issuance, they will be required when adjusting status to that of legal permanent resident following your marriage. Applicants are therefore encouraged to fulfill these vaccination requirements at the time of the medical examination.

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, JMEngland said:

@Greenbaumand @HP+IC, it seems like there is confusion because you're arguing with each other, but you both are on the same side of the argument somehow.

 

Look back at both of your posts. Both of you support the argument that immunizations are encouraged but not required for K1 visas. 

 

1 hour ago, TM92 said:

Looks like the confusion began with a typo in one of @Greenbaum's post that was fixed a couple minutes later; maybe @HP+IC didn't see the edit was recently made.

Original post:

Edited post:

It's been settled. Thanks for your observances.

[Dashinka 24,513]

Considering how many folks coming here on K1s that have to get all or additional vaccinations at the AOS stage, in many cases requiring a whole new medical exam by a civil surgeon, I think the answer is fairly obvious, K1s are not required to get the vaccinations, only encouraged.  Now at the AOS stage, there may be some sort of waiver available for those that either cannot take a vaccine due to an allergy, or due to other objections, but that is later down the road.

[Diane and Chris 651]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Considering how many folks coming here on K1s that have to get all or additional vaccinations at the AOS stage, in many cases requiring a whole new medical exam by a civil surgeon, I think the answer is fairly obvious, K1s are not required to get the vaccinations, only encouraged.  Now at the AOS stage, there may be some sort of waiver available for those that either cannot take a vaccine due to an allergy, or due to other objections, but that is later down the road.

Exactly!  Very simple. 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Diane and Chris

[Daniela M_______ 410]

On 11/11/2018 at 11:47 AM, Ninja Joe said:

That's good news, thank you.😊👍 She actually read that here in the U.S., we have developed vaccines without egg content specifically for allergics. That is our goal: When she arrives here, request shots safe for allergic people.

Find information about those new vaccines, probably they are already registered in other countries too, you just need to know the manufacturer and a simple google search will do. 

[JMEngland 438]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Considering how many folks coming here on K1s that have to get all or additional vaccinations at the AOS stage, in many cases requiring a whole new medical exam by a civil surgeon, I think the answer is fairly obvious, K1s are not required to get the vaccinations, only encouraged.  Now at the AOS stage, there may be some sort of waiver available for those that either cannot take a vaccine due to an allergy, or due to other objections, but that is later down the road.

 

Spot on. I think the best way to go about it is to just get what you can at the time but don't stress about it. Take care of the rest once the beneficiary is in the States. The only advantage I could see is that they might be cheaper in home country, but even that is an "if". 

[RCL 0]

There are wavers in the US when people cannot receive immunizations due to an allergy. Nobody will force her to receive something that causes an anaphylactic reaction if she has a signed, notified letter from a medical professional. They may require additional blood tests to certify she's healthy but they won't deny her visa because of it. Good luck!