Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

[JODO 2]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

By TRACI CARL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

MONTERREY, Mexico - Many in Mexico expressed disappointment Friday with the U.S. Congress' immigration reform proposal, arguing it doesn't let enough Mexicans enter the United States legally to work, while focusing on an arduous path to residency for those who have already taken the illegal path.

Mexican news media and activists attacked what they viewed as a measure to limit the number of seasonal workers allowed into the United States — even as the compromise's proponents said it would let in many more.

Migrants as well as U.S. employers who need workers for low-skilled jobs had hoped Congress would streamline and vastly expand the existing guest worker program, allowing more to cross legally, work a few months, then return home with their savings to build homes and businesses.

The new proposal did include a new guest worker program, but it appeared to limit the number of times workers could renew the temporary visas.

At the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey, which hands out more temporary work visas than anywhere else in the world, Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended by reports that preference would be given to migrants with degrees and specialized skills.

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour.

[Ban Hammer 13,588]

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour.

maybe it's a news flash to good old bermudez that the price of cigs is going up and more and more are quitting every day, so the need for tobacco pickers is decreasing. just another sense of entitlement from someone who has no right to an entitlement.

[Fandango 1,440]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended

Now lookit what we've done!

[Dr_LHA 3]

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?"

The simple answer to this question is illegal immigrants. The fact is that agriculture in the USA has gotten far to used to paying below minimum wage for its workers to stop employing illegals. If you make illegals legal, then that's just another worker you have to pay more.

Edited May 18, 2007 by Dr_LHA

[one...two...tree 2,762]

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?"

The simple answer to this question is illegal immigrants. The fact is that agriculture in the USA has gotten far to used to paying below minimum wage for its workers to stop employing illegals. If you make illegals legal, then that's just another worker you have to pay more.

Our lifestyles are a result of Third World Labor. The Civil War had a lot to do with fighting over cheap (slave) labor. Illegal immigrants from Mexico have provided us with a comfortable life. Somebody started complaining and now both sides are pointing their fingers at one another.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

The fact is that agriculture in the USA has gotten far to used to paying below minimum wage for its workers to stop employing illegals.

You didn't catch this part?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

...Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour....

Where they grow and cut tobacco, the minimum wage is below $8.00/hour, is it not?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended

Now lookit what we've done!

I'll feel bad for him when I have a spare minute.

Nah, not really.

[William33 110]

Simple answer, the pattern is full.

The days of Ellis Island are over, a place where my ancestors entered, over 100 years ago.

We self perpetuate expansion, thus, new bodies are not welcome.

This is my perspective on unsupported immigration.

Marriage - absolutely!!!!

Work - Up to the employer.

Student - Get it done and hope for sponsorship.

Illegal - ** Off!!! And forever, by the way....

[Dr_LHA 3]

Where they grow and cut tobacco, the minimum wage is below $8.00/hour, is it not?

Yes, true. However there is a whole ag industry of illegal workers in California for example that runs off people paid less than the minimum wage, which right now is $7.50, and will soon be $8.00.

[homesick_american 1]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

By TRACI CARL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

MONTERREY, Mexico - Many in Mexico expressed disappointment Friday with the U.S. Congress' immigration reform proposal, arguing it doesn't let enough Mexicans enter the United States legally to work, while focusing on an arduous path to residency for those who have already taken the illegal path.

Mexican news media and activists attacked what they viewed as a measure to limit the number of seasonal workers allowed into the United States — even as the compromise's proponents said it would let in many more.

Migrants as well as U.S. employers who need workers for low-skilled jobs had hoped Congress would streamline and vastly expand the existing guest worker program, allowing more to cross legally, work a few months, then return home with their savings to build homes and businesses.

The new proposal did include a new guest worker program, but it appeared to limit the number of times workers could renew the temporary visas.

At the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey, which hands out more temporary work visas than anywhere else in the world, Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended by reports that preference would be given to migrants with degrees and specialized skills.

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour.

Christ almighty, who CARES what people in Mexico think about this? What makes them think we should care? The United States is OUR country, and that means WE get to run it. Not Mexico.

Personally I'm against the new program; I'm against amnesty, and I'm against guest workers. The United States is going to be overrun with low-skilled migrant workers even more than it is now. Yeah, it's EXACTLY what we need. The Chinese and the Indians aren't pumping out engineers and scientists by the tens of thousands every single year...no, not at all.

[pedroh 21]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

By TRACI CARL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

MONTERREY, Mexico - Many in Mexico expressed disappointment Friday with the U.S. Congress' immigration reform proposal, arguing it doesn't let enough Mexicans enter the United States legally to work, while focusing on an arduous path to residency for those who have already taken the illegal path.

Mexican news media and activists attacked what they viewed as a measure to limit the number of seasonal workers allowed into the United States — even as the compromise's proponents said it would let in many more.

Migrants as well as U.S. employers who need workers for low-skilled jobs had hoped Congress would streamline and vastly expand the existing guest worker program, allowing more to cross legally, work a few months, then return home with their savings to build homes and businesses.

The new proposal did include a new guest worker program, but it appeared to limit the number of times workers could renew the temporary visas.

At the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey, which hands out more temporary work visas than anywhere else in the world, Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended by reports that preference would be given to migrants with degrees and specialized skills.

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour.

Christ almighty, who CARES what people in Mexico think about this? What makes them think we should care? The United States is OUR country, and that means WE get to run it. Not Mexico.

Personally I'm against the new program; I'm against amnesty, and I'm against guest workers. The United States is going to be overrun with low-skilled migrant workers even more than it is now. Yeah, it's EXACTLY what we need. The Chinese and the Indians aren't pumping out engineers and scientists by the tens of thousands every single year...no, not at all.

well.. USA wouldn't need so many guest workers if actually americans would do the jobs, or not quit after a week.. or study something related to where all guest workers are being hired... if high school kids want to go work in their uncle's drywall business instead of studying something some big-####### company needs, they wouldn't hire dem indians and chinese..

[homesick_american 1]

well.. USA wouldn't need so many guest workers if actually americans would do the jobs, or not quit after a week.. or study something related to where all guest workers are being hired... if high school kids want to go work in their uncle's drywall business instead of studying something some big-####### company needs, they wouldn't hire dem indians and chinese..

Americans can't compete with illegals who will do the job for less than minimum wage with no benefits. We're used to a higher standard of living...it's one we've fought hard for and have EARNED.

You obviously missed my point completely about China and India. Any first-world nation needs LOTS and LOTS of educated people to keep its economy churning. In the United States, about 35-40% of adults have a bachelor's degree. Now, according to the illegal Mexican tobacco field hand, we have 'enough'. Well, he should just stop cutting tobacco and we should just make a position for him in Bush's cabinet. We do NOT have enough adults with bachelor's degrees, and we have severe skills shortages in some areas. The Chinese and the Indians aren't short of engineers and scientists, and that's scary because we ARE.

Try NOT reading sh!t into my posts that isn't there...y'know, just for a change.

I will fight and scream until my last breath to keep illegals out of my country. You'll just have to get used to it.

[reach449 2]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_...8sz1o1rSl8UewgF

Mexicans fear U.S. immigration plan

By TRACI CARL, Associated Press Writer 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

MONTERREY, Mexico - Many in Mexico expressed disappointment Friday with the U.S. Congress' immigration reform proposal, arguing it doesn't let enough Mexicans enter the United States legally to work, while focusing on an arduous path to residency for those who have already taken the illegal path.

Mexican news media and activists attacked what they viewed as a measure to limit the number of seasonal workers allowed into the United States — even as the compromise's proponents said it would let in many more.

Migrants as well as U.S. employers who need workers for low-skilled jobs had hoped Congress would streamline and vastly expand the existing guest worker program, allowing more to cross legally, work a few months, then return home with their savings to build homes and businesses.

The new proposal did include a new guest worker program, but it appeared to limit the number of times workers could renew the temporary visas.

At the U.S. Consulate in Monterrey, which hands out more temporary work visas than anywhere else in the world, Edmundo Bermudez, a 36-year-old from the northern city of Durango, was especially offended by reports that preference would be given to migrants with degrees and specialized skills.

"The United States already has enough people with college degrees. Who is going to cut their tobacco?" asked Bermudez, who has been working intermittently in the U.S. for the past eight years. In Mexico, he makes about $10 a day, while in the U.S. he earns $8 an hour.

Christ almighty, who CARES what people in Mexico think about this? What makes them think we should care? The United States is OUR country, and that means WE get to run it. Not Mexico.

Personally I'm against the new program; I'm against amnesty, and I'm against guest workers. The United States is going to be overrun with low-skilled migrant workers even more than it is now. Yeah, it's EXACTLY what we need. The Chinese and the Indians aren't pumping out engineers and scientists by the tens of thousands every single year...no, not at all.

I agree....who cares what Mexico thinks? As far as I am concerned they don't even have the right to protest on OUR streets. If they want to live here, I have no problem with that. Just do it the LEGAL way like ALL OF US are doing....

reach449

[homesick_american 1]

I agree....who cares what Mexico thinks? As far as I am concerned they don't even have the right to protest on OUR streets. If they want to live here, I have no problem with that. Just do it the LEGAL way like ALL OF US are doing....

reach449

Personally I wish the illegals would GTFH. They're going to wreck America for the rest of us. I don't want unskilled migrant labor responsible for paying my social security; it'll be an awful small check.

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I'm ready to kick some illegal azz.