Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fractures 3 ribs in fall

[yuna628 9,671]

For those very concerned, we have had some justices in history (iirc off the top of my head) that have had significant degradation of mental and health abilities while on the bench. There's only one way to fix that, and you'd need to change the Constitution to do it. I wouldn't be inherently opposed to it either, but one should serve as long as they are competent. You can be old in body but still sharp in mind.

[Dashinka 24,489]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

The solution is obvious. Increase the number of Supreme Court Justices. We could end up with a Supreme Court that is not a fair reflection/representation of the entire country. Laws will be passed in the future by majorities in Congress and very favorable with the public that'll be knocked down because of the very conservative beliefs with some on the court.

Maybe we should subject them to the popular vote as well, so the population centers of the US can pick them?  Btw, I believe FDR tried to increase the justices on the court, I don't think it worked out for him.

[Dashinka 24,489]

23 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

For those very concerned, we have had some justices in history (iirc off the top of my head) that have had significant degradation of mental and health abilities while on the bench. There's only one way to fix that, and you'd need to change the Constitution to do it. I wouldn't be inherently opposed to it either, but one should serve as long as they are competent. You can be old in body but still sharp in mind.

William O. Douglas.

 

It is interesting that when they passed the 25th Amendment, they did not consider SCOTUS.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 hour ago, JimandChristy said:

The solution is obvious. Increase the number of Supreme Court Justices. We could end up with a Supreme Court that is not a fair reflection/representation of the entire country. Laws will be passed in the future by majorities in Congress and very favorable with the public that'll be knocked down because of the very conservative beliefs with some on the court.

You are in favor of modifying the Supreme Court every time there is a shift in the house to reflect the political views of the majority power currently in place without there being a need for a replacement judge? So potentially every 2 years we will be modifying the court to reflect the mood de jour of the voting constituency??

 

Just exactly who is this solution obvious to? A schizophrenic? Our laws should be proactive, not reactive, our institutions should be solid, not shifting to the current whims of the voting public, it works because it doesn't allow chaos to rule the government.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Randyandyuni

[yuna628 9,671]

17 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

William O. Douglas.

 

It is interesting that when they passed the 25th Amendment, they did not consider SCOTUS.

Here's an article by John Dean https://supreme.findlaw.com/legal-commentary/when-supreme-court-justices-refuse-to-retire.html He talks about SCOTUS judges that were drug addicted or suffered from mental health problems so badly the law clerks were making decisions for them.

 

Libertarians might argue that the longer a judge serves the longer they would be impervious to populist whims, corruption, and political pressure. Which is a con when you switch over to term limits. https://reason.com/archives/2014/05/30/supreme-court-doesnt-need-term-limits It's still something to consider to me though, not on the basis of any partisan thing of having a court swing one way or another, but just so that we have more confidence and transparency about the health and mental sharpness of a justice.

 

A mistake by some on both the left and right, is that a justice should represent the whims of the people, a movement, or even a political or socio-religious ideology instead of the law. That is not how our founders wanted SCOTUS to be at all, but we should have some fair mechanism in place to ensure a justice is fit to serve and perhaps a more clear definition of when and how one should be nominated in such a way we could stop bickering every time a spot opens up.

 

[Dashinka 24,489]

FYI, just as a bit of good news, Justice RBG was released form the hospital today.  I hope no one makes her laugh though as broken ribs can be very painful.

[TBoneTX 45,267]

Did she get rib transplants from all those who offered her theirs?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

I think that  if she can still churn out court opinions as she does with plenty of vigor, and has a rather intense fitness program for her advanced age I'd have no problem. My grandfather drove well beyond her age... until his mind went. And I see no evidence of that in her. My dad on the other hand... hoooboy.... he scares me to death driving sometimes. But there are tons of younger people driving out there (my sister comes to mind) that you wouldn't want to face in a car in a million years.

I just sold a young 30 something her4th car having totaled 3 in 1.5 years 

[TBoneTX 45,267]

Thumbtack your business card to her forehead.  Or perhaps you already did.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, TBoneTX said:

Thumbtack your business card to her forehead.  Or perhaps you already did.

Off topic but interesting. The airbag has our brand logo on it. It is imprinted into her right forearm permanently 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

5 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

Off topic but interesting. The airbag has our brand logo on it. It is imprinted into her right forearm permanently 

since you are using her as a walking billboard are you discounting her purchases as compensation for her efforts?

[yuna628 9,671]

42 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

I just sold a young 30 something her4th car having totaled 3 in 1.5 years 

Eww. My sister totaled so many vehicles and damaged property that she ended up losing her insurance and license. I'm unclear of her current status because I never get an honest answer out of her, but some of us are suspicious that she's driving unlicensed and uninsured. My dad doesn't want to think such things about her, but one of these days I know she's going to find herself in jail.... and I'm not bailing her out. Some people really do not belong behind a wheel. At some point don't you have reservations about selling a car to someone that keeps wrecking like that?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

8 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Eww. My sister totaled so many vehicles and damaged property that she ended up losing her insurance and license. I'm unclear of her current status because I never get an honest answer out of her, but some of us are suspicious that she's driving unlicensed and uninsured. My dad doesn't want to think such things about her, but one of these days I know she's going to find herself in jail.... and I'm not bailing her out. Some people really do not belong behind a wheel. At some point don't you have reservations about selling a car to someone that keeps wrecking like that?

last one was not her fault. No if they are a licensed driver and have insurance , I cant legally discriminate . 

[Dashinka 24,489]

1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

Did she get rib transplants from all those who offered her theirs?

I think Alyssa Milano offered to donate both of her kidneys effectively killing herself due to her TFS.