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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

They, the Democrats, care about winning and being in power.  Not sure they really care about anything else.

Lets not be stupid here.  All politicians (regardless of political party) only care about winning and their power.  The well-being of their constituents area a distant 2nd.

 

If anybody actually thinks that their politicians (senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, etc) actually care about them, they need to be "woke" up as somebody said earlier.

 

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10 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

Lets not be stupid here.  All politicians (regardless of political party) only care about winning and their power.  The well-being of their constituents area a distant 2nd.

 

If anybody actually thinks that their politicians (senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, etc) actually care about them, they need to be "woke" up as somebody said earlier.

 

I cant recall a politician in years that has kept as many promises as Trump 

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59 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So you agree, Trump only met with this group as part of a political theatre ploy and is truly a racist to heart which is how this conversation actually started?  The Democrats of course never do this, their motives are completely altruistic to their Gruberite voters and they take losing like a true defeated foe should, not destroying a hotel room and going on a curse laden rant, but I digress, we can talk about her in the other thread.

 

The point is, Trump met with this very important group, and if we are to believe that the Democrats care about people, then we have to apply the same assumptions to Trump as well.

I believe everything he does is for theatre, political or not. Its actually pretty common for both Democrats and republicans to meet with people of color. So i don't get why you would give him brownie points for doing his job. 

 

Personally. 

I'll reserve judgement until something positive/negative happens. 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, Eric-Pris said:

Lets not be stupid here.  All politicians (regardless of political party) only care about winning and their power.  The well-being of their constituents area a distant 2nd.

 

If anybody actually thinks that their politicians (senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, etc) actually care about them, they need to be "woke" up as somebody said earlier.

 

Agreed. But this idea that Trump is some sort of KKK grand dragon and the democrats are angels is totally absurd.

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1 hour ago, Marty Byrde said:

I cant recall a politician in years that has kept as many promises as Trump 

 

48 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Agreed. But this idea that Trump is some sort of KKK grand dragon and the democrats are angels is totally absurd.

FYI- I'm not Anti-Trump.  In fact, I'm very much for him.  If he could just cut out the twitter, he'd be great. 

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7 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

why did he agree to meet with these future black leaders and spend so much time with them?

So that he could proudly say, "Some of my best friends are black"?

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7 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Of course.  So Trump is a racist and does this just for political reasons? 

Well he is a politician, they do that sort of thing. His history would seem to suggest that he does harbor certain racist beliefs, and I believe that is part of the reason his base likes him so much. Of course having said that, I believe that the only person Donald Trump really cares about, is himself. 

 

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Couldn't the same be said of Democrats?

I don't know, could it? :rolleyes:

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56 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Well he is a politician, they do that sort of thing. His history would seem to suggest that he does harbor certain racist beliefs, and I believe that is part of the reason his base likes him so much. Of course having said that, I believe that the only person Donald Trump really cares about, is himself. 

 

I don't know, could it?

Trump is about as racist as you are billionarist.  He has made some remarks that ignorant people claim are racist (like the $h1thole comment about Haiti, actually an accurate description - ever been there??).  But racist? I haven't seen it, personally.  Now, does he think he's better than pretty much everyone around him?  Probably.  But that has no regard for asking color, I don't think.

 

As for the bold part... it COULD, if only you'd let the blinders fall away.

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4 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

I believe everything he does is for theatre, political or not. Its actually pretty common for both Democrats and republicans to meet with people of color. So i don't get why you would give him brownie points for doing his job. 

 

Personally. 

I'll reserve judgement until something positive/negative happens. 

 

 

Something positive? I know you have been working hard for years to provide for your family, so the unemployment rate may not impact on your judgment.  But...

 

Unemployment is down.  Black unemployment is at its lowest ever ( in spite of his racist, Ellis Island Award-winning self).  Consumer confidence is at an all time high.  Look around, my friend.  Here:  https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/6/giving-trumps-accomplishments-their-due/

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3 hours ago, Eric-Pris said:

 

FYI- I'm not Anti-Trump.  In fact, I'm very much for him.  If he could just cut out the twitter, he'd be great. 

Twitter is a bane.

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58 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

Trump is about as racist as you are billionarist.  

What's a billionarist? Someone who only eats billionaires? 

 

58 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

He has made some remarks that ignorant people claim are racist

He has said lots of stuff that could easily be taken as being a tad racist.  Of course you would think, for a billionaire that would have used some of his wealth to learn to speak more clearly. Unless of course he is trying to appeal to people with huge inferiority complexes. Which come to think of it, would explain why he says the things he says. 

 

58 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

 

(like the $h1thole comment about Haiti, actually an accurate description - ever been there??). 

 

Well many parts of America are $hitholes, but it usually considered poor manners to point that out. Remember how much stick Hillary got for deplorables comment, which by the way was taken out of context, but it's different when Democrats do it, is it not?

 

 

58 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

But racist? I haven't seen it, personally.  Now, does he think he's better than pretty much everyone around him?  Probably.  But that has no regard for asking color, I don't think.

If one is determined not to see something, one probably won't see it. 

58 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

 

As for the bold part... it COULD, if only you'd let the blinders fall away.

Speak for yourself, mate! 

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7 hours ago, Póg mo said:

What's a billionarist? Someone who only eats billionaires? 

 

He has said lots of stuff that could easily be taken as being a tad racist.  Of course you would think, for a billionaire that would have used some of his wealth to learn to speak more clearly. Unless of course he is trying to appeal to people with huge inferiority complexes. Which come to think of it, would explain why he says the things he says. 

 

Well many parts of America are $hitholes, but it usually considered poor manners to point that out. Remember how much stick Hillary got for deplorables comment, which by the way was taken out of context, but it's different when Democrats do it, is it not?

 

 

If one is determined not to see something, one probably won't see it. 

Speak for yourself, mate! 

I love some of your comments, appeals to people with inferiority complexes? I do not feel inferior, especially not to someone who espouses negative reaction to everything, and you are right, many places in America are s-holes, been to most innercities? Never seen much of any recent value in any of them, most of them form part of your liberal leaning group, small town America has its warts, but without the unbridled violence demonstrated in our urban core, you make a valid point about not seeing something because you are determined not to, could easily be used to describe you as well, but you can't accept that, keep barking

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Liberals, Democrats, and the media (but we repeat ourselves redundantly) haven't yet grasped that much (most, all) of what Pres. Trump says is to be taken other than "word-for-word literally."

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