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[HP+IC 292]

4 minutes ago, Ukrainek1 said:

I really wouldn’t worry. On paper our story doesn’t make sense but she did fine in her second interview and it makes perfect sense once they have all the information.

 

when I take a step back and look at it and see she has the travel to holland/Amsterdam and doesn’t work it’s normal for them to question that. They did and she provided them her reasons and her storyS  They are going to do whatever searches they want and they aren’t going to find a reason to deny us. The good news is she hasn’t been back to Amsterdam since she met me and she provided them with all of his information and told me I knew about him. I told the co that as well .  I have photos with her family. So really there is nothing they will find but I understand their position as to why they have to do additional checks. 

Your fiancee must be quite young and very beautiful. My fiance told me once that beautiful girls are frowned at by immigrations

[Ukrainek1 2]

2 minutes ago, HP+IC said:

Your fiancee must be quite young and very beautiful. My fiance told me once that beautiful girls are frowned at by immigrations

I am 41 and she is 27. I don’t want to sound arrogant but she is drop dead gorgeous and she is frequently approached/hit  by guys (sometimes while I am next to her). I am secure enough in our relationship that it doesn’t bother me. 

 

but I really don’t think they frown upon beautiful girls.

[SalishSea 17,834]

3 minutes ago, Ukrainek1 said:

I am 41 and she is 27. I don’t want to sound arrogant but she is drop dead gorgeous and she is frequently approached/hit  by guys (sometimes while I am next to her). I am secure enough in our relationship that it doesn’t bother me. 

 

but I really don’t think they frown upon beautiful girls.

Why has she never had to work, at 27?   That seems very odd indeed.....

[Ukrainek1 2]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Why has she never had to work, at 27?   That seems very odd indeed.....

It never came up in the interview but when she graduated college she met her ex bf. He said I want to see you to come live with me in holland. She legally couldn’t work there as she was on a tourist visa. He and her family helped her out with bills. She lived at home the remaining time. 

[HP+IC 292]

5 minutes ago, Ukrainek1 said:

I am 41 and she is 27. I don’t want to sound arrogant but she is drop dead gorgeous and she is frequently approached/hit  by guys (sometimes while I am next to her). I am secure enough in our relationship that it doesn’t bother me. 

 

but I really don’t think they frown upon beautiful girls.

Well, we have 17 years in between us, but we are on the older side, just turned 47 and 64, divorced, both have children and we both are drop dead gorgeous, exclusively for each other When we first dated about 25 years ago, age gap was an issue, we couldn't make it last. I was very ambitious and career oriented. Now it isn't. Hope it will not be an issue for you from the very beginning. 

[Alabamak1 688]

I am sure it is not her looks that was the reason for not being approved. At this point it's much of speculation. Your age is not the factor either. What I would agree, is the fact that you mentioned her not being employed in the Netherlands and being there so many times. That could be seen as somekinda lie to their eyes.  That is a little hard to swallow even if it was true. 

[HP+IC 292]

9 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Why has she never had to work, at 27?   That seems very odd indeed.....

Well, that may sound odd but it happens in Ukraine. Quite a lot of young girls feel comfortable with finding a man to rely upon, bear children and become  housewives for life, if their husband makes enough to support them. The background matters. 

[Ukrainek1 2]

15 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

I am sure it is not her looks that was the reason for not being approved. At this point it's much of speculation. Your age is not the factor either. What I would agree, is the fact that you mentioned her not being employed in the Netherlands and being there so many times. That could be seen as somekinda lie to their eyes.  That is a little hard to swallow even if it was true. 

Well its the truth and she provided them with his first name/last name and city where he lives.  I told the CO when she came back after the second itnerview that i know all about the ex bf.  WHen I asked her any reason as to why we wouldn't be approved she said "No. as long as noone here is already in a relationship".  TShe also mentioned that they have to be careful because people have "professional girlfriends". I  take that as prostitution.

  
I have pictures with myself and family and she told them she talked to my family on whatsapp/viber.  

 

I am sure they have access to Holland's immigration records and can check her entry there and since she provided them with his first name/last name and city of residence they will check to see if he entered ukraine.  They also asked her if she has a second passport - she still has the OLD one - where you have to get a visa to travel to Europe -she is superstitious and for some reason will not get the new passport until the current one expires.  SO i am sure they are checking to make sure she doesn't have an ID passport.

 

I have a friend who works for the FBI who does interviews for security clearances for people with access to nuclear weapons  - nothing with immigration - but I told her what happened and she said they aren't hiring private PI's to investigate each other's lives - they are doing nothing more than quick searches in their databases and running it past their supervisors and then move onto the next case. THey dont have the time/resources/money to do a full on investigation but I welcome it because they wont find anything.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2018 by Ukrainek1

[Alabamak1 688]

7 minutes ago, Ukrainek1 said:

Well its the truth and she provided them with his first name/last name and city where he lives.  I told the CO when she came back after the second itnerview that i know all about the ex bf.  WHen I asked her any reason as to why we wouldn't be approved she said "No. as long as noone here is already in a relationship".  TShe also mentioned that they have to be careful because people have "professional girlfriends". I  take that as prostitution.

  
I have pictures with myself and family and she told them she talked to my family on whatsapp/viber.  

 

I am sure they have access to Holland's immigration records and can check her entry there and since she provided them with his first name/last name and city of residence they will check to see if he entered ukraine.  They also asked her if she has a second passport - she still has the OLD one - where you have to get a visa to travel to Europe -she is superstitious and for some reason will not get the new passport until the current one expires.  SO i am sure they are checking to make sure she doesn't have an ID passport.

 

I have a friend who works for the FBI who does interviews for security clearances for people with access to nuclear weapons  - nothing with immigration - but I told her what happened and she said they aren't hiring private PI's to investigate each other's lives - they are doing nothing more than quick searches in their databases and running it past their supervisors and then move onto the next case. THey dont have the time/resources/money to do a full on investigation but I welcome it because they wont find anything.

 

 

hope everything gets resolved....at this point only the CO has the last word on why and what they put you guys in AP. 

[Ukrainek1 2]

10 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

hope everything gets resolved....at this point only the CO has the last word on why and what they put you guys in AP. 

Thank you. I do as well. 

if this gets denied, we get married and file a CR1.

[Alabamak1 688]

Just now, Ukrainek1 said:

Thank you. I do as well. 

if this gets denied, we get married and file a CR1.

i was at my then fiancees interview and like any other couples, we had concerns, but your story seem very close to me for approval. That is my opinion, not the CO's apparently.  There was an older couple the day we went there that had also a k-1 approved.  A young guy from Ukraine also with CR-1. My wife now, has friends doing the same K-1 process on their way and nobody had or is having issues so far. 

 

Good luck 

[Ukrainek1 2]

7 minutes ago, Alabamak1 said:

i was at my then fiancees interview and like any other couples, we had concerns, but your story seem very close to me for approval. That is my opinion, not the CO's apparently.  There was an older couple the day we went there that had also a k-1 approved.  A young guy from Ukraine also with CR-1. My wife now, has friends doing the same K-1 process on their way and nobody had or is having issues so far. 

 

Good luck 

Thank you I do as well. My fiance said the second interview was very conversational and not confrontational.  She never felt like they were questioning her integrity, they just wanted to know the story - and it all makes sense as to why when you take a step back and look at it.   She answered their questions and now the ball is in their court.

 

She did mention that they other individual who had a second interview - that interview was very confrontational.  The interviewer was raising her voice - really demanding to know why she didn't have any pictures and why she waited 15 years to say yes to a proposal.   So that part makes me feel a little bit better.

 

Also, the CO did come back and speak to me upon my request.  Something she wasn't obliged to do - and she was very pleasant.  I view this as a positive sign.  So fingers crossed. I am sure they are doing their checks and only time will tell.

 

 

[Ukrainek1 2]

Just to give everyone an update we were issued yesterday after being In ap nearly 40 days. Huge relief! 

[HP+IC 292]

28 minutes ago, Ukrainek1 said:

Just to give everyone an update we were issued yesterday after being In ap nearly 40 days. Huge relief! 

Congrats!

[Ukrainek1 2]

1 hour ago, HP+IC said:

Congrats!

Thank you.

 

good luck to you and your fiancé.

i know 2 other couples from vj in kyiv embassy who were also put in ap around the same time we were.  All of us were approved over the past week. The embassy is very fair and much easier compared to others 

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Edited November 22, 2018 by Ukrainek1