Are sealed packet(s) really required at the POE?

[Joschka 8]

31 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

You will need a sealed package to deliver to the agent at POE.  I don't think you have that yet.  It will be attached to the passport with the visa in it.

We got my wife's passport back almost two weeks ago.

 

Nothing like what you are describing.

[Joschka 8]

2 minutes ago, ZakMrak said:

 

That's a negative. Once again, if your case was processed electronically by the NVC/Foreign Consulate they will not send you a sealed packet to provide at the POE nor will you be asked to provide it. Only your passport with the visa page added and your original/civil documents that you had provided during the case will be mailed back to you in an envelope that is meant to be opened.

 

We just entered this past Saturday with no sealed packet, our case was processed electronically. No problems at all.

Thanks, we are now expecting the same experience you had. We appreciate your help!

[John & Rose 7,239]

Just now, Joschka said:

We got my wife's passport back almost two weeks ago.

 

Nothing like what you are describing.

OK.  Maybe they are moving to the 21st Century.  I know the Philippines still has the envelope and they are electronic.  I believe you are good to go.  I will be following this.  Hopefully it will be one less thing for the beneficiary to worry about!  I wish you the best.

[John & Rose 7,239]

5 minutes ago, ZakMrak said:

 

That's a negative. Once again, if your case was processed electronically by the NVC/Foreign Consulate they will not send you a sealed packet to provide at the POE nor will you be asked to provide it. Only your passport with the visa page added and your original/civil documents that you had provided during the case will be mailed back to you in an envelope that is meant to be opened.

 

We just entered this past Saturday with no sealed packet, our case was processed electronically. No problems at all.

That would be awesome.  The Philippines still does it the old fashioned way with the envelope.  They have been electronic for a couple years there.

[geowrian 22,338]

Exactly. Electronic processing at NVC has no bearing on the POE packet. I think there is a misunderstanding that there is a relation between the 2. There's not. Some countries have been doing electronic processing with NVC for years (e.g. Manila for one) and still do, but still issue a physical packet for POE.

[Crazy Cat 42,535]

On 10/18/2018 at 8:46 AM, Joschka said:

Thanks, we are now expecting the same experience you had. We appreciate your help!

I have a question, please.  In your review of AIT, you said "Even though we had paid to have New Hampshire review our i-864, Taipei insisted on doing their own review. "  What does that mean, please?

Thanks,

[Joschka 8]

5 hours ago, missileman said:

I have a question, please.  In your review of AIT, you said "Even though we had paid to have New Hampshire review our i-864, Taipei insisted on doing their own review. "  What does that mean, please?

Thanks,

When our case was first sent to New Hampshire (NVC,) their web site advised us that we had two options with the AOS. Option one was to pay $120 to have New Hampshire review and evaluate our AOS. Option 2 was to have our local Consulate (AIT) evaluate it at no cost. We chose option one.

 

According to the NVC web site, our AOS was APPROVED before my wife's interview. Nevertheless, at the interview, they raised some questions and gave her an information sheet that suggested some further evaluation was required.

 

In the end, there was no delay, but it was a little upsetting to have them raise questions about a matter that was already settled.

[Crazy Cat 42,535]

1 minute ago, Joschka said:

When our case was first sent to New Hampshire (NVC,) their web site advised us that we had two options with the AOS. Option one was to pay $120 to have New Hampshire review and evaluate our AOS. Option 2 was to have our local Consulate (AIT) evaluate it at no cost. We chose option one.

 

According to the NVC web site, our AOS was APPROVED before my wife's interview. Nevertheless, at the interview, they raised some questions and gave her an information sheet that suggested some further evaluation was required.

 

In the end, there was no delay, but it was a little upsetting to have them raise questions about a matter that was already settled.

I've never heard of that..........the local consulate ALWAYS has final say on the I-864, I'm pretty sure.

[geowrian 22,338]

NVC only does an initial review of the I-864 to ensure it meets the minimum requirements to file. The CO at the embassy/consulate makes the final decision on the public charge concern based upon the totality of the circumstances. Nothing is ever "settled" at NVC...they are just a middleman to take in and prepare a case for the embassy.

Edited October 19, 2018 by geowrian

[Crazy Cat 42,535]

9 minutes ago, Joschka said:

When our case was first sent to New Hampshire (NVC,) their web site advised us that we had two options with the AOS. Option one was to pay $120 to have New Hampshire review and evaluate our AOS. Option 2 was to have our local Consulate (AIT) evaluate it at no cost. We chose option one.

 

According to the NVC web site, our AOS was APPROVED before my wife's interview. Nevertheless, at the interview, they raised some questions and gave her an information sheet that suggested some further evaluation was required.

 

In the end, there was no delay, but it was a little upsetting to have them raise questions about a matter that was already settled.

Also in your review you said you were having difficulty in paying the $220 GC fee.  Did you get that straightened out?

[Joschka 8]

12 minutes ago, missileman said:

I've never heard of that..........the local consulate ALWAYS has final say on the I-864, I'm pretty sure.

Where did you get that information? I read carefully and I never saw anything official that supports your version.

[Joschka 8]

14 minutes ago, geowrian said:

NVC only does an initial review of the I-864 to ensure it meets the minimum requirements to file. The CO at the embassy/consulate makes the final decision on the public charge concern based upon the totality of the circumstances. Nothing is ever "settled" at NVC...they are just a middleman to take in and prepare a case for the embassy.

That's what you say, but that's NOT what the NVC website says.

 

Where to you get your information from?

[Joschka 8]

8 minutes ago, missileman said:

Also in your review you said you were having difficulty in paying the $220 GC fee.  Did you get that straightened out?

The web site advised us to wait a few days, and we did.

 

The next time I tried, the payment when through just fine.

[geowrian 22,338]

17 minutes ago, Joschka said:

That's what you say, but that's NOT what the NVC website says.

 

Where to you get your information from?

Can you show me where the NVC website says they make the final decision on the public charge concern (or anything related to the visa)?

 

Experience. Research.  Reviewing experiences from literally thousands of others by now. Reading the INA, USCIS Policy Manual and AFM, and the DOS FAM.

[Ryan H 3,834]

58 minutes ago, Joschka said:

When our case was first sent to New Hampshire (NVC,) their web site advised us that we had two options with the AOS. Option one was to pay $120 to have New Hampshire review and evaluate our AOS. Option 2 was to have our local Consulate (AIT) evaluate it at no cost. We chose option one.

 

According to the NVC web site, our AOS was APPROVED before my wife's interview. Nevertheless, at the interview, they raised some questions and gave her an information sheet that suggested some further evaluation was required.

 

In the end, there was no delay, but it was a little upsetting to have them raise questions about a matter that was already settled.

 

Link to the page that has that text please.