Filing I-130

[fem_femme 6]

Hi guys. So I am getting conflicting info regarding the bona fide evidences and I wanted to clarify at which stage of the petition you guys submitted the evidences.

 

One attorney told me to submit everything with the initial I-130 petition packet while another said that the USCIS does not forward the evidences to the NVC and that it is the NVC who will request them from me. Well, I thought that the NVC was going to request the D-260 and the I-864 at that stage only, so this is confusing me as I am getting two opposing answers from attorneys. The bona fide evidences that I am talking about that I wanted to submit with my I-130 packet were bunch of photos, our boarding passes, hotel itineraries, Uber rides overseas, my e-visa, ring receipts, my affidavit and my parents', etc.

 

So when did you guys submit these yourselves and did you get RFE after? What is conflicting for me is that one person says that in order not to delay the case by getting the RFE is to submit everything at once, but if USCIS does not forward these evidences to the NVC, then should I wait to get an RFE and delay my case like that by submitting those later separately? Also, my husband and I are planning to book another trip (2nd trip for our face-to-face meeting), so should I first book that second trip of ours we are planning along with the hotels and include that future trip before sending out the bona fide evidences all together just to show that right after our wedding trip, we booked another vacay after a month of return back home? How did you guys submit those face to face meeting I mean at which stage? Please let me know as I am planning to send my petition in the next few days and would need to adjust things. Thank you.

[Liam2021 587]

USCIS approved your case, so all the evidence must be submit on this stage. Whoever said USCIS not forward the evidences to NVC is 100% wrong. Whatever you submit will be forward to NVC, then NVC will send everything to the Consulate.

[kris&me 572]

Entire packet goes to NVC and then onto the embassy

once it leaves 1st stage the original office can  not view your case

and once it leaves NVC only the embassy sees it is denied and returned

 

[fem_femme 6]

1 hour ago, H&T said:

USCIS approved your case, so all the evidence must be submit on this stage. Whoever said USCIS not forward the evidences to NVC is 100% wrong. Whatever you submit will be forward to NVC, then NVC will send everything to the Consulate.

An attorney told me this and threw me off actually hence my confusion...ok so i will submit everything to USCIS all together whatever I've got even the future trip itinerary that we will book now to show them that we are meeting for the second time in 4 months again. 

 

I just realized that I have one more question  sorry.... I was born in the former Soviet Union where our dad's names would be written in our birth certificates as well as passports as sort of like a middle name even though middle names are not common at all back there since they already sutck your dad's name into your name in between your first and last name, so I go his name stuck in my papers too obviously and when I immigrated to the US at a very young age, the US immigration still left it in my docs, so now i have my dad's first name in between my first and last names and at first I thought to not write it in my I-130 but since my documents have that, I thought to not complicate things and just write as is, except that in my petition where it is asking for the middel names of me and my parents, I put my "middle name" and next to it I typed "patronymic name" so that they will know that my 'middle name' isn't really a middle name but my dad's name. I'm sure they get tons of Russian and former S.U. documents with those so I'm not the first nor the last one, but I was wondering whether I should keep that "patrynomic name" mentioned next to my middle name (dad's name) or should I just delete that patronymic notification name? ANy thoughts on this or am I looking too much into it? I just want to do everything well on my form and not risk rejection over typos or mistakes. Thank you.

[fem_femme 6]

Hi. Can someone please help me to correctly fill out the employment portion of the form based on my situation? I am currently a student at a community college studying to become a paralegal for a year or less now and I am not working officially. My income tax return, however, does show $18,000 earnings, and that is an earning from renting out a room in my house that I own, so technically per tax laws, I am considered 'self-employed' even though that $18,000 income is not taxed because it is a real estate earning. I am not sure how to write my situation in my employment history for the first portion only because a few years ago I was working at a law office, so I can put that in the second part of my employment history without a problem or confusion. I ask this because I read that some people have been getting recommendations to put their college info in the employment history part while others recommend not to do that if the student status is the reason why someone isn't working, and instead to put "unemployed" if a petitioner is a student, so I can't get a specific correct info as both seem to oppose one another.

 

Additionally, I had worked for cash, but that cash was so little within a year's span and very unstable, that I used it for gas and for little errands here and there. I did a little of billing for someone for cash from home and got $500 every 3-4 months for a few months now, so it isn't anything at all, but since the person who paid me cash for his billing request a few times from my home hasn't officially hired me, I don't want to mention that little work I am doing very rarely as it might get him into trouble for paying me out of pocket without officially hiring me? Can someone please advise me how to proceed with formulating my employment history please? 

[geowrian 22,338]

Self-employed is fine to list. You can clarify that you are a landlord if you want.

 

They won't get in trouble for listing the employment on the petition. They could from the IRS  separately still. But all work must be listed...never lie or conceal facts to anybody in immigration. The consequences are very severe.

 

When you get to NVC and need to submit an I-864, just know that self-employed income comes from your tax returns. At $18k/year, you will need a joint sponsor (or qualifying household member agreement) or sufficient assets.

 

While not immigration-related, one is required to report all income and pay all taxes owed on their tax returns.

[fem_femme 6]

I don't want to seem dumb, but I am stuck on a question on I-130 form for my husband who lives overseas.

 

Part 4. Information About Beneficiary (page 5): 

Beneficiary's Physical Address: Questions 11a-11h.

If the Beneficiary lives outside the US in a home without a street #/name, leave Item Number 11a-11b blank

I am confused if I need to fill that out or not for him? I it asking where he lvies right now? He lives overseas in his home, so is it asking me to write his physical current foreign address where he lives overseas or not? I think that's what is asking.

 

I am even MORE confused on the question following 11a-11h:

Other Addresses & Contact Info 12a-12d.

It asks to provide an address in the US where the beneficiary intends to live if different from 11a-11h. 

What is it asking here? I'm assuming for my address where I live in the US, since he will later move in with me from overseas? 

 

Much more confused right after that question following 12d lol :))) 

For 13a-13f it asks:

Provide the beneficiary's address outside of the US, if different from Item Numbers 11a-11h. If the address is the same, type SAME Item Number 13a.

I'm sorry but what is it asking here? I have no clue.

 

If someone is willing to help, would you mind opening the actual form and looking at Part 4 as I want to finish up with this petition in the next few days and I'm still stuck on a few questions? Thanks in advance guys.

 

 

 

 

[Jo Së 200]

20 minutes ago, fem_femme said:

I am confused if I need to fill that out or not for him? I it asking where he lives right now? He lives overseas in his home, so is it asking me to write his physical current foreign address where he lives overseas or not? I think that's what is asking.

Yes, the address where he currently lives.

 

It asks to provide an address in the US where the beneficiary intends to live if different from 11a-11h. 

What is it asking here? I'm assuming for my address where I live in the US, since he will later move in with me from overseas? 

Yes, your address where he intend to live.

 

Provide the beneficiary's address outside of the US, if different from Item Numbers 11a-11h. If the address is the same, type SAME Item Number 13a.

I'm sorry but what is it asking here? I have no clue.  

Just write SAME.

 

Although it could be a little confusing its pretty much all self explanatory.  If your husband uses a different address to receive mail use that on the 13a-13f part, other wise just write SAME on 13a.

 

 

[John & Rose 7,240]

11 hours ago, fem_femme said:

I am considered 'self-employed' even though that $18,000 income is not taxed because it is a real estate earning.

Be careful.  You may end up owing taxes or at least showing that you spend money on upkeep and maintenance.  

[fem_femme 6]

10 hours ago, Jo Së said:

 

 

Thanks so much!!  Yes it is very self-explanatory but I was confused with similar questions and referrals to line numbers. What you said is exactly what i thought they wanted, but due to my confusion, I thought to double-check  Now I'm going to finish up with the page and thanks again for the help. This site has helped me a lot! 

[fem_femme 6]

Hi guys. I am about to finish with my I-130 form and I am stuck on just 2 questions and I was hoping that you guys can help me out.

1) I am stuck on page 6 of form I-130 where I need to fill out about beneficiary's spouses. So where it says "Names of Beneficiary's Spouses" in bold...I first put my info, then for spouse 2, I put his ex wife's info as needed, but then it goes to ask the same question again on 25a. "Information About Beneficiary's Family"and then "Provide info about beneficiary's spouse and children." 

 

My question is why in the world is it asking about me again, as I just wrote about me in Spouse 1 section of the same page on the left side of it plus about his ex. My husband has no children, so do I again put my name and info on the same page as I already did, and then mark N/A for the resort of "Persons"? A website called "mypathcitizenship"  has instructions on how to fill out I-130 but it is still confusing because in there they instruct you to fill out 25a this way: 25a-36: Enter the names of your foreign spouse’s children that will be accompanying them. If no one else is will be immigration with them, type “NA” even if your spouse is pregnant. Until the child is born you cannot add them to the petition." So ok I got that, but it is not only asking for children there because the question is clearly saying "provide info about beneficiary's spouse and children." So why is that website only mentioning children's names? This is why I am confused what to write there because It seems to me that I need to write about myself the same question as on the left side of the same page lol.

 

2) The second confusion is simple...on page 7, where it says "Beneficiary's Entry Info" it is asking questions about his entry, but he has never been to the US, which I marked, but down below in the same section under Item Number 47...it asks Passport Number, then country of issuance and also the expiry date of the passport. Is this a GENERAL passport question in that section of "entry" or is it a question regarding his foreign passport with which he entered the US? Should I put N/A to all the entry questions there, but put his passport #, expiration date and the country of issuance regardless of the title mentioning his entry? 

Edited October 30, 2018 by fem_femme

[pushbrk 13,251]

1 minute ago, fem_femme said:

Hi guys. I am about to finish with my I-130 form and I am stuck on just 2 questions and I was hoping that you guys can help me out.

1) I am stuck on page 6 of form I-130 where I need to fill out about beneficiary's spouses. So where it says "Names of Beneficiary's Spouses" in bold...I first put my info, then for spouse 2, I put his ex wife's info as needed, but then it goes to ask the same question again on 25a. "Information About Beneficiary's Family"and then "Provide info about beneficiary's spouse and children." 

 

My question is why the hell is it asking about me again, as I just wrote about me in Spouse 1 section of the same page on the left side of it plus about his ex. My husband has no children, so do I again put my name and info on the same page as I already did, and then mark N/A for the resort of "Persons"? A website called "mypathcitizenship"  has instructions on how to fill out I-130 but it is still confusing because in there they instruct you to fill out 25a this way: 25a-36: Enter the names of your foreign spouse’s children that will be accompanying them. If no one else is will be immigration with them, type “NA” even if your spouse is pregnant. Until the child is born you cannot add them to the petition." So ok I got that, but it is not only asking for children there because the question is clearly saying "provide info about beneficiary's spouse and children." So why is that website only mentioning children's names? This is why I am confused what to write there because It seems to me that I need to write about myself the same question as on the left side of the same page lol.

 

2) The second confusion is simple...on page 7, where it says "Beneficiary's Entry Info" it is asking questions about his entry, but he has never been to the US, which I marked, but down below in the same section under Item Number 47...it asks Passport Number, then country of issuance and also the expiry date of the passport. Is this a GENERAL passport question in that section of "entry" or is it a question regarding his foreign passport with which he entered the US? Should I put N/A to all the entry questions there, but put his passport #, expiration date and the country of issuance regardless of the title mentioning his entry? 

When filing for a spouse, it seems the same information is asked for more than once.  That's because the same form is used for any alien relative.  Just answer.  Don't complete information about an entry that doesn't exist.  Provide the passport number if there is one.

[fem_femme 6]

35 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

When filing for a spouse, it seems the same information is asked for more than once.  That's because the same form is used for any alien relative.  Just answer.  Don't complete information about an entry that doesn't exist.  Provide the passport number if there is one.

OK thanks for the info! I appreciate it. Would you be so kind and tell me if is it required to make a copy of social security number for the I-130 petition or not? I was previously married to a foreigner and the lady who helped me made copies of my CA driver's license as well as my Social Security # on the same page together, but I heard that sending a copy of your driver's license is not required, so is the same case with making a copy of the social security? If it isn't required, I rather not go through the hassle of making an unnecessary copy. Thanks for your help, sir!

[pushbrk 13,251]

1 hour ago, fem_femme said:

OK thanks for the info! I appreciate it. Would you be so kind and tell me if is it required to make a copy of social security number for the I-130 petition or not? I was previously married to a foreigner and the lady who helped me made copies of my CA driver's license as well as my Social Security # on the same page together, but I heard that sending a copy of your driver's license is not required, so is the same case with making a copy of the social security? If it isn't required, I rather not go through the hassle of making an unnecessary copy. Thanks for your help, sir!

Reading the I-130 instructions will tell you what is and is not required.  Doing so will be critical to your ultimate success.

[fem_femme 6]

Could someone please be able to help me out on a few things regarding the petition. I am mostly done but stuck on a few questions/issues.

 

1) Middle names: I am from the former Soviet Union where our father's names (patronymic names) are used as middle names in birth certificates, passports, etc. Those are not the typical American middle names, but they sort of give you more identity of who you are as in to whom you belong...your father, so I think they had used that back then and still do to better differentiate you among the crowd who might share your first and last name, too. When I moved to the US, they wrote my name as in my birth certificate from my homeland onto my US docs (the immigration). I never use it, except that my dad's name is still shown as my middle name on my social security card, my bank account since it has to be what my social shows and my passport along with my HOA statement/account and my property tax forms, but in school and other places I never use. So now that I am filling out I-130 and I-130A, I put that so-called middle name on the forms for me, my parents (their patronymic names as shown on their passports where it asks for my parent's info), and my current husband is from back there too, so he also has that issue with a middle name. For this reason, I filled out all the middle names as shown on our passports/birth certificates, except in the parenthesis for each person, I typed "patronymic name" so that the USCIS will understand that it is not our "middle names". It was either that or simply I could have filled the middle name part without explaining in the parenthesis right next to it what it is. I am wondering if the petitions can be denied or returned to me by asking me to delete what I wrote in the parenthesis next to the middle names? Should I just not even explain and do you think I should have used the last page of attachment for additional comments although I am not saying much except just typing 'patronymic name' next to a middle name so I didn't want to complicate the petition by using the last page attachments. I don't want to risk any stupid mistakes like this. Anyone else here with a patronymic name?