Friends girlfriend denied entry

[SalishSea 17,837]

1 hour ago, TM92 said:

Yup, that probably made them suspicious, initially. It would have been 100% legal for them to marry in the US and then do CR-1. But, she was willing to enter with a B-2 with illegal preconceived intent to AOS; CBP rightfully wised up.

Having two big bags?  My fiancé came to visit 7 or 8 times on his B-2, bringing at least two big bags each time.  In fact, in August he brought over one whole suitcase of his beloved Calvin and Hobbes books.  No questions.  No secondary.   

[SalishSea 17,837]

5 hours ago, FluffyBalls said:

 

I'm SUPER glad they caught and deported some Chinese girl trying to shorten the long wait to be with her loved one. It makes me feel so safe. In fact, it's best they focus their efforts on these types of cases, rather than the people illegally entering the southern border with no vetting or inspection or background check whatsoever.  

The vast majority of people currently in the US illegally, are "illegal" for being out of status after entering legally.   Not from sneaking over the southern border......

[TM92 527]

I said "probably," not "definitely." Correlation does not imply causation. Can someone now tell CBP "Why do you suspect my various bags. @Jorgedig's fiance was not questioned. See, here's the thread!"

[SalishSea 17,837]

1 minute ago, TM92 said:

I said "probably," not "definitely." Correlation does not imply causation. Can someone now tell CBP "Why do you suspect my various bags. @Jorgedig's fiance was not questioned. See, here's the thread!"

Yeah, that's not what I was implying......     Just like at the embassy stage, it is more about the totality of the circumstances.  You quoted the "two big bags," as if it was the key element in the OP's situation.  There is no way of knowing if it was, and it is very likely that there were other cues that the CBP officers are trained to identify amongst people in line.

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7 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

There are already "unfair" differences between countries and we all know it (some consulates take forever to schedule interviews, in some countries AP takes forever, some consulates are much tougher to go through, etc.) . So let's not pretend that the people here care about fairness. 

 

What I'm saying is, there's no good reason not to allow people to enter with the intent to legally AOS. None, zilch. It's just a made up rule because you know, there are so many types of visas, they all need to be used or something. Just make the process simpler, not the current nonsense of having to go through both USCIS and consulates, and either make it so that embassies directly issue immigrant visas without the need to go through USCIS first, or let people enter and adjust on other visas freely. The current system is incredibly inefficient and slow and has a big effect on people's lives. 

What about background checks? Making sure people are who they say they are? Flagging people with (extreme) criminal records? Making sure they have the necessary financial resources in place? 

 

Based on your argument, literally anyone could come to the US and adjust status. And that's if they actually do adjust status, and not just disappear once they are here. Something tells me that might not work. Just a hunch.

[FluffyBalls 52]

21 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

The vast majority of people currently in the US illegally, are "illegal" for being out of status after entering legally.   Not from sneaking over the southern border......

Not even close to the "vast majority" - most reliable sources peg that figure at around 50% with a huge margin of error. 

 

Someone overstaying a B2 or F1 or (insert visa here) visa would have (1) been vetted and interviewed by the US embassy abroad (2) gone through airport and airline security and had their bags scanned in their home country (3) gone through the CBP inspection process and (4) gone through TSA inspection if they had a connecting flight. They are fingerprinted, photographed, and there is a record of their arrival.

 

Someone sneaking over the southern border goes through which part of the steps above? Obviously people need to leave when their visas expire, but you cannot compare the two groups to one another. We go through so much effort to catch that Chinese girl that may AOS (who went through all the steps above and would be vetted by USCIS down the road) but allow hundreds of thousands to cross the southern border without any vetting or inspection and no record of their presence here. It doesn't make any sense. 

Edited October 9, 2018 by FluffyBalls

[SalishSea 17,837]

9 minutes ago, FluffyBalls said:

Not even close to the "vast majority" - most reliable sources peg that figure at around 50% with a huge margin of error. 

 

Someone overstaying a B2 or F1 or (insert visa here) visa would have (1) been vetted and interviewed by the US embassy abroad (2) gone through airport and airline security and had their bags scanned in their home country (3) gone through the CBP inspection process and (4) gone through TSA inspection if they had a connecting flight. They are fingerprinted, photographed, and there is a record of their arrival.

 

Someone sneaking over the southern border goes through which part of the steps above? Obviously people need to leave when their visas expire, but you cannot compare the two groups to one another. We go through so much effort to catch that Chinese girl that may AOS (who went through all the steps above and would be vetted by USCIS down the road) but allow hundreds of thousands to cross the southern border without any vetting or inspection and no record of their presence here. It doesn't make any sense. 

Sources?  I have always heard (on VJ and other reputable sites), that most "illegals" are overstays.   If you have evidence to the contrary (specifically people sneaking across the US/Mexico border), I would love to see it.

[Boiler 45,527]

Nobody knows the real numbers but it is assumed it is about half and half based on the estimated total, however seems likely the official numbers are low so the balance are mostly undocumented sic.

[TM92 527]

21 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

You quoted the "two big bags," as if it was the key element in the OP's situation.

I used an ellipsis when I quoted OP's post in order to not alter the original meaning of the whole post.

[William33 110]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Nobody knows the real numbers but it is assumed it is about half and half based on the estimated total, however seems likely the official numbers are low so the balance are mostly undocumented sic.

I agree with Boiler. 

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[Penguin_ie 5,993]

**** several posts removed and administrative action taken.  No more bickering,  POst with constructive advice for the Op or do not post. *****

[LEISEROM 32]

1 minute ago, Penguin_ie said:

**** several posts removed and administrative action taken.  No more bickering,  POst with constructive advice for the Op or do not post. *****

Thanks this evolved way beyond my original post

[TNJ17 1,329]

22 hours ago, WeGuyGal said:

Who carries a birth certificate.. and a certified english translation.. as a tourist? 

People who are trying to cheat the system and immigrate on a tourist visa. 

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20 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Not when someone is placed in AP for months or years, I've never seen any of the regulars here call this unfair or want to end it because people from some countries wait longer than them

All of that is still doing it legally however long it takes. Yes it sucks but that’s the way it is for a reason. Can’t say that about coming here with a tourist visa with intent to aos.