Friends girlfriend denied entry

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

That could be seen as a violation of the TOS of this site.....

 

Sadly for everyone one person who get's caught, a dozen probably get through. 

 

 

[LEISEROM 32]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Applied for her or somebody else?

His ex wife maybe 15 years ago. She came but marriage did not last

[Boiler 45,516]

14 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

And you yourself have said that you would have done that, too. 

 

Some rules are stupid and I don't care if people break them

Never did, I have said something very different in the past on this subject.

[LEISEROM 32]

He and I have known each other pushing 50 years. I didn't know she was trying this until the other day. Was really stupid in my opinion(and I told him so). She was in the US last year as a tourist. I guess they figured she could just use that and come.  I told him what she was doing was immigration fraud. He blew me off.

 

 

[Boiler 45,516]

1 minute ago, LEISEROM said:

He and I have known each other pushing 50 years. I didn't know she was trying this until the other day. Was really stupid in my opinion(and I told him so). She was in the US last year as a tourist. I guess they figured she could just use that and come.  I told him what she was doing was immigration fraud. He blew me off.

 

 

Thanks for clarifying that, sounds like it has cost them time, money but probably nothing else.

Edited October 8, 2018 by Boiler

[geowrian 22,337]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Thanks for clarifying that, sounds like it has cost them time, money but probably nothing else.

Yup...unless she also lied to CBP.

[MacUK 983]

47 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

And you yourself have said that you would have done that, too. 

 

Some rules are stupid and I don't care if people break them

 

What rules are stupid? The ones that say people should use visas for their intended purpose and not as a shortcut.

 

Personally the only stupid rules I can think of are the ones that allow people to abuse those visas without any consequences.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

19 minutes ago, MacUK said:

 

What rules are stupid? The ones that say people should use visas for their intended purpose and not as a shortcut.

 

Personally the only stupid rules I can think of are the ones that allow people to abuse those visas without any consequences.

Yes, it's stupid that you can't just enter on a non immigrant visa with an intent to legally adjust status. In many countries that's perfectly legal and there's nothing wrong with it. The US just loves red tape and inefficiency. I understand why people are denied if they plan on staying and working illegally but if they plan on adjusting status then that's a different situation. Nobody wins if such people are denied entry, it just creates unnecessary red tape

[Ben&Zian 4,398]

So for people in countries who can't get tourist visas (Philippines for instance is really difficult), they can just get bypassed by others who wish to misuse their visa and it's intended purpose? Sounds pretty unfair, hence the reason we have the proper process.

 

I wish it was much more strict personally. People always think other countries are so more relaxed than the US; but I've even been thrown into secondary in Canada, you know that o"h so amazingly open and welcoming country" people always say it is.

[AshMarty 360]

1 hour ago, Orangesapples said:

And you yourself have said that you would have done that, too. 

 

Some rules are stupid and I don't care if people break them

Things like making sure you don't have communicably diseases, some financial support (as minimal as the current requirements are), and no major criminal background seem like pretty good things to look into before having someone permanently move to the US. 

 

It is kinda a time consuming process but.. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by AshMarty

[AshMarty 360]

13 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

So for people in countries who can't get tourist visas (Philippines for instance is really difficult), they can just get bypassed by others who wish to misuse their visa and it's intended purpose? Sounds pretty unfair, hence the reason we have the proper process.

 

I wish it was much more strict personally. People always think other countries are so more relaxed than the US; but I've even been thrown into secondary in Canada, you know that o"h so amazingly open and welcoming country" people always say it is.

My husbands family is always nervous going through Canada to the US. Last trip they were denied boarding in China because they didn't have a visa to fly through the country on a layover to the US.....

 

I agree, I think we are pretty lax with our processes in the US.

Edited October 8, 2018 by AshMarty

[MacUK 983]

20 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Yes, it's stupid that you can't just enter on a non immigrant visa with an intent to legally adjust status. In many countries that's perfectly legal and there's nothing wrong with it. The US just loves red tape and inefficiency. I understand why people are denied if they plan on staying and working illegally but if they plan on adjusting status then that's a different situation. Nobody wins if such people are denied entry, it just creates unnecessary red tape

The clue's in the name, it's a non immigrant visa

[Orangesapples 1,954]

29 minutes ago, Ben&Zian said:

So for people in countries who can't get tourist visas (Philippines for instance is really difficult), they can just get bypassed by others who wish to misuse their visa and it's intended purpose? Sounds pretty unfair, hence the reason we have the proper process.

 

I wish it was much more strict personally. People always think other countries are so more relaxed than the US; but I've even been thrown into secondary in Canada, you know that o"h so amazingly open and welcoming country" people always say it is.

There are already "unfair" differences between countries and we all know it (some consulates take forever to schedule interviews, in some countries AP takes forever, some consulates are much tougher to go through, etc.) . So let's not pretend that the people here care about fairness. 

 

What I'm saying is, there's no good reason not to allow people to enter with the intent to legally AOS. None, zilch. It's just a made up rule because you know, there are so many types of visas, they all need to be used or something. Just make the process simpler, not the current nonsense of having to go through both USCIS and consulates, and either make it so that embassies directly issue immigrant visas without the need to go through USCIS first, or let people enter and adjust on other visas freely. The current system is incredibly inefficient and slow and has a big effect on people's lives. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

24 minutes ago, MacUK said:

The clue's in the name, it's a non immigrant visa

So? Just because someone decided on a name, people should have to wait for months and years? Or just because some people wait, others should have to wait as well? 

[PRC Rabbit 40]

People do and should care about "fairness" in the immigration process.

The alternative is a world for animals, dog eat dog.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by PRC Rabbit