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JenATL   2

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Hello All :)

 

I am from the US and just got a job offer and approved work visa in the Netherlands... I will be moving there in 3 weeks to live and work long term.

 

My boyfriend is Egyptian and has lived and worked in the EU for 4.5 years during previous marriage.  He was separated for over a year, living separate but they agreed to stay married so he can get permanent residence - which will happen in 6 more months.   But he would like to give all that up so we can be together.  We really don't want to be apart.  And as important as it is for him to get EU Permanent Residence in 6 more months, he doesn't want that, he just wants to be together and so do I.

 

So our dilemma is, if he is divorced and can no longer live and work in the EU under marriage status, this means he will have to go back to Egypt.  So what will happen if we want to get married, but I live in the Netherlands?  Doesn't he have to live in the US with me for a certain amount of time have the privilege to live with me in the Netherlands?  I don't quite understand how it will work for us to be married and live in the Netherlands?  Who's laws are we following and where do we apply for whatever is needed for him to live in the Netherlands with me, but still work towards gaining US Citizenship... do we file documents in the US or Netherlands??  I hope this makes sense.  Thank you for any advice ❤️

Boiler Grand Master

Boiler   45,585

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Not sure what this has to do with the US, one of out friendly Mods will move it to the correct forum.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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JenATL   2

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Because I am a US Citizen.  And although I will be living and working in the Netherlands.  Once we get married, I would still like to make sure he can apply to become a US Citizen at some point.  But is that hard to do when we live in Netherlands?

 

I also need to know how to get the Netherlands to recognize we are married so he can live with me in the Netherlands.  Is this difficult?  Do I need to file anything in the US about us for the Netherlands?

geowrian Grand Master

geowrian   22,337

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49 minutes ago, JenATL said:

Because I am a US Citizen.  And although I will be living and working in the Netherlands.  Once we get married, I would still like to make sure he can apply to become a US Citizen at some point.  But is that hard to do when we live in Netherlands?

Once you are ready to live in the US (which was not stated as a goal here...), you can petition him for permanent residency to get an immigrant visa and subsequent green card. ETA: ~12-16 months.

He needs to actually live in the US to maintain his permanent residency.

After 3 years, if you are still married and he meets the physical presence and continuous residency requirements (along with all other requirements), he can apply for citizenship.

If you divorce during those 3 years, then he needs to wait 5 years.

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Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Boiler Grand Master

Boiler   45,585

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1 hour ago, JenATL said:

Hello All :)

I am from the US and just got a job offer and approved work visa in the Netherlands... I will be moving there in 3 weeks to live and work long term.

 

Issue only arises when long term is up. Now your definition of long term may be different to mine. Months, years, decades?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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JenATL   2

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Hi everyone, thank you for helping share information :)

I think I wasn't clear about being in the US is because I will stay at my job in the Netherlands for many years, so we don't actually have a plan to live in the US anytime soon.  But I would want him to have US Citizenship at some point because it would make life so much easier when we travel or for our shared life.  So is it possible that after we are married for a certain number of years, that even if we live outside the US, can he still apply for citizenship at some point?

 

Thank you

geowrian Grand Master

geowrian   22,337

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Just now, JenATL said:

Hi everyone, thank you for helping share information :)

I think I wasn't clear about being in the US is because I will stay at my job in the Netherlands for many years, so we don't actually have a plan to live in the US anytime soon.  But I would want him to have US Citizenship at some point because it would make life so much easier when we travel or for our shared life.  So is it possible that after we are married for a certain number of years, that even if we live outside the US, can he still apply for citizenship at some point?

No. He must become a permanent resident in the US and then actually live in the US for at least 3 years first (as stated above). Then he can apply for citizenship.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Ontarkie Grand Master

Ontarkie   14,237

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~~Moved to Emigrating Outside the US, from CR1/IR1 P&P - As the OP is not planning on living in the US anytime soon.~~

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