2 previous K1 visas for my fiance--a problem?

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

3 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

You will find that there is nothing fast about this process.   Even if you go for a K-1, it will likely be at least 8 months to get to the interview.  

more like a year these days

so not much of a difference between a year or 12 to 14 months

 

there's a lot of good advice here from VJ members 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

32 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

 

Whether having kids now is good for their relationship is debatable. Whether waiting till she's 40 is a good idea is not. 

Which is why I advised researching their options right now.

[geowrian 22,338]

Waiting until 40 to have children just because is not a good idea. Waiting until 40 because that's when one is ready and able to properly take care of a child is a very different matter.

I think the point was not to rush into anything because of some notion of a biological clock. Science has come to a point where many of those issues can be addressed, and adoption is always an option. Science has yet to find a way to make good parents.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

44 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Waiting until 40 to have children just because is not a good idea. Waiting until 40 because that's when one is ready and able to properly take care of a child is a very different matter.

I think the point was not to rush into anything because of some notion of a biological clock. Science has come to a point where many of those issues can be addressed, and adoption is always an option. Science has yet to find a way to make good parents.

Not true. Only 10-20% of 40-year old women who have multiple IVF treatments end up giving live births. That's just reality. And the biological clock is not a notion but a very real thing. Fair? No. But it is what it is. It makes sense to hurry up if you want a biological child and adoption is very expensive and hard, too. Telling people they have all the time in the world to have children is not helpful. They don't. 

Edited September 25, 2018 by Orangesapples

[Ontarkie 14,419]

Ok folks I think there has been enough on the couples fertility. Please stick to answering his other questions. 

 

VJModeration 

[SalishSea 18,095]

Regarding the pre-nup issue.....   I believe that the affidavit of support is still enforceable following AOS, regardless of any pre-nup arrangement or divorce decree.    And it sounds like in the coming months/years, the public charge issue will attract even more attention and enforcement.

[Boiler 45,952]

PreNup has nothing to do with the I 864.

[SalishSea 18,095]

34 minutes ago, Boiler said:

PreNup has nothing to do with the I 864.

Well, yes.   What I meant was that the existence of a valid prenup does not excuse the USC from the 'public charge' agreement, even after a divorce.  Not that it would be enforced these days.....

Edited September 25, 2018 by Jorgedig

[HP+IC 292]

4 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Be aware that accomplishing a legal marriage in Russia is not a sure thing.  I've seen people go over and spend a couple months trying to marry and come home unmarried.  This is why K1 is so prevalent in the former Soviet Union countries.

Not exactly. The main issue is (I believe Ukraine is much easier now than Russia and other ex-USSR countries, but nevertheless), that traditionally both spouses-to-be must come in person to marriage registering authority (ZAGS), file their application to get married, wait a month and go right ahead. Ukraine now allows proxy for filing only. In case if a foreign party was married before, s/he must present apostilled copies of all previous marriage certificates and divorce decrees with locally acceptable translations. That is, you must spend some time collating stuff and then coming to ZAGS twice within a span of 1-2 months. Nothing is difficult if you have done research and are well-prepared and are ready and have resources (time and money) to invest into your relationship. Normally, a USC will prefer not to come to Russia for a few times to get a better knowledge of how the system works. And many post-USSR countries, I believe Russia too, require USCs to get a visa to travel. Then why bother?

Edited September 25, 2018 by HP+IC

[DaveB7 1]

13 hours ago, DaveB7 said:

Of course, but if we get married in a 3rd country as it has been suggested, having 2 lawyers and a proper translation into both of our languages aren't big problems. The real problem is a potential challenge in a US court (potentially by a 3rd party). That's why lawyers seem to suggest a K1 with signing a prenup in the US. But using a CR1 route  makes it difficult. ..    (and yes to all negative Nellies here -she's all for the prenup :-)

So has anybody tried to do a prenup overseas? Or married overseas and did a prenup (or postnup) in the US? thanks

[mushroomspore 3,044]

2 hours ago, DaveB7 said:

So has anybody tried to do a prenup overseas? Or married overseas and did a prenup (or postnup) in the US? 

Don't think too many of us here have done pre and postnups since (as others have pointed out) it gets complicated when the couple are from different countries. Even with couples from the same countries, these agreements can get difficult to navigate. Not sure what other info you need from us about this particular aspect. Most of us here aren't lawyers so I don't think we can give much more advice on that besides, "You need a lawyer."

Edited September 25, 2018 by mushroomspore

[Boiler 45,952]

It does come up now and them, usually people wanting to use it to get out of the I 864 obligations, obviously a very specific situation, well would vary by US State.

 

 

[pushbrk 13,072]

18 hours ago, HP+IC said:

Not exactly. The main issue is (I believe Ukraine is much easier now than Russia and other ex-USSR countries, but nevertheless), that traditionally both spouses-to-be must come in person to marriage registering authority (ZAGS), file their application to get married, wait a month and go right ahead. Ukraine now allows proxy for filing only. In case if a foreign party was married before, s/he must present apostilled copies of all previous marriage certificates and divorce decrees with locally acceptable translations. That is, you must spend some time collating stuff and then coming to ZAGS twice within a span of 1-2 months. Nothing is difficult if you have done research and are well-prepared and are ready and have resources (time and money) to invest into your relationship. Normally, a USC will prefer not to come to Russia for a few times to get a better knowledge of how the system works. And many post-USSR countries, I believe Russia too, require USCs to get a visa to travel. Then why bother?

Reading about HOW to do something and actually trying to accomplish it often yield very different results.  Theoretically,  it should be doable.  Let's hear from somebody who actually did it.

18 hours ago, HP+IC said:

Not exactly. The main issue is (I believe Ukraine is much easier now than Russia and other ex-USSR countries, but nevertheless), that traditionally both spouses-to-be must come in person to marriage registering authority (ZAGS), file their application to get married, wait a month and go right ahead. Ukraine now allows proxy for filing only. In case if a foreign party was married before, s/he must present apostilled copies of all previous marriage certificates and divorce decrees with locally acceptable translations. That is, you must spend some time collating stuff and then coming to ZAGS twice within a span of 1-2 months. Nothing is difficult if you have done research and are well-prepared and are ready and have resources (time and money) to invest into your relationship. Normally, a USC will prefer not to come to Russia for a few times to get a better knowledge of how the system works. And many post-USSR countries, I believe Russia too, require USCs to get a visa to travel. Then why bother?

Reading about HOW to do something and actually trying to accomplish it often yield very different results.  Theoretically,  it should be doable.  Let's hear from somebody who actually did it.

[Shiran 1,134]

On 9/24/2018 at 2:24 PM, HP+IC said:

Even on the Russian immigration website ('pink' site or 'tutnetam' which I visited once and couldn't force myself to repeat) those who are already in the US clearly urge K1s: do not get pregnant immediately off the plane, get married, get your GC, remove conditions, get established in the US, that is, wait for several years into your relationship.

Offtopic, but out of curiosity I took a look at that site. Horrible. "Сегодня жутко устала ,голова разболелась ...Прилегла умирать ...
И только фраза мужа : -Ну что ,любимая ,поедем купим тебе что-нибудь - буквально вернула меня с того света..."  Translation: "Today I was terribly tired, headaches, so I lied down to die. And only my Husband's utterance, "So loved one, shall we go for a ride, and buy you something?" returned me from afterlife. 

Maybe pre-nups are not a bad idea after all.