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Hi all, just wondering if anyone has gone through a process where the daddy is a US citizen but the mama is a Brit. I'm currently going through the K1 process and we are looking at the CRBA process. I wanted to know whether you had to get a DNA test and have it signed by a court?  Also, did the US father have to provide high school and college transcripts to prove citizenship to the US?

Any help or support as we navigate this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much! 

03/23/18 - Sent I-129F Package 

03/26/18 - USCIS received package

03/29/18 - Notification of NOA1 (Text)

04/10/18 - Hard copy of NOA1 (around this date)

xx/xx/18 - RFE/NOA2

xx/xx/18 - Case at NVC/Case # Received

xx/xx/18 - Embassy Received Case

xx/xx/18 - Medical Appointment

xx/xx/18 - Interview Appointment

xx/xx/xx - Visa Received

xx/xx/xx - POE to USA

xx/xx/xx - Wedding date <3

 

Helpful info

USCIS - 800-375-5283.  NVC - (603)-334-0700

How to talk to a live person at USCIShttps://goo.gl/54z5bZ

What to do after NOA2 Approval? How to contact NVC? Click here for info - https://goo.gl/KggThF

If you cannot get NVC on the phone try this - https://secureforms.travel.state.gov/ask-nvc.php

 

Official K1 details and flow

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

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Service Center : Online
CIS Office : Raleigh NC
Date Filed : 2020-10-03
NOA Date : 2020-10-03
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Comments : INA 328 and 329 [ Military ] 
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different consulates will have different requirements. are you listed on the birth certificate? if so, that may well be all that is needed. for some, a DNA test may be required for confirmation.

 

your birth certificate and passport prove citizenship. school records prove nothing other than where you went to school ;)

i 485, 130, EAD and AP

04/09/2019    NOA1 received/check cashed i 485 and 130 (direct adjustment)

11/7/2019      Interview- Norfolk

11/10/2019    APPROVED (notification rec'd 11/10, approval dated 11/8)

DONE FOR TWO YEARS!!! ;)

 

Filed everything ourselves with no RFE's or delays.

 

CR1 for Child under 21 (20 at time of filing)- Filed by LPR Spouse for his son

4/4/20     Mailed packet

4/12/20   NOA1 rec'd

10/14/21 (havent heard anything... when do i start to get worried?)

9/15/22 APPROVED! Now to wait for NVC and interview....

 

ROC

10/14/21 Mailed to AZ PO Box. Let the waiting begin. Again.

10/16/21 Received at PO Box

10/19/21 Received Text NOA1

10/23/21 Received Mailed NOA1

 

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26 minutes ago, CaliforniaLovin said:

Hi all, just wondering if anyone has gone through a process where the daddy is a US citizen but the mama is a Brit. I'm currently going through the K1 process and we are looking at the CRBA process. I wanted to know whether you had to get a DNA test and have it signed by a court?  Also, did the US father have to provide high school and college transcripts to prove citizenship to the US?

Any help or support as we navigate this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much! 

Have you looked at the CRBA process info on the London US embassy site?  It should all be there.  And no, transcripts do not prove citizenship.  Only certified long form birth certificates or passports.

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You need the father's passport to prove citizenship. The transcripts can prove he lived in the U.S. for the request 5 years (two years after age 14).

 

DNA may be requested if you have no other evidence that could establish a biological relationship. The consulate would give you instructions in that case. 

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It would seem to me that baby’s birth certificate listing father would be sufficient to prove paternity. As for father’s U.S. citizenship, his BC would prove that. 

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Depends on the circumstances and evidence. There are plenty of cases where somebody put their name on a birth certificate despite not being the biological parent (knowingly and unknowingly).

CO's call.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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I'm not sure the UK is the same, but I got a CRBA for my son born in Mexico, I did have to provide transcripts from HS and College to prove that I had lived continuously for 5 years in the US, since I was living in Mexico at the time. My name was on the birth certificate as well. It took about a month or two, I can't quite recall the exact time frame. I hope this helps.

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I just went through all of this, Im US my now wife is Thai,. Our daughter was born in thailand, and we both had to get DNA tested, and i had my birth cert and passport for citizenship proof, and i had a couple of power bills and my house payment statement to prove residency. You can only use approved DNA centers they will provide a site for you to go to so you can find the closest one for you. Its a real pain in the ### but worth it in the long run.

 

Hope that helped , if you have any other questing feel free to message me.

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20 hours ago, CaliforniaLovin said:

Hi all, just wondering if anyone has gone through a process where the daddy is a US citizen but the mama is a Brit. I'm currently going through the K1 process and we are looking at the CRBA process. I wanted to know whether you had to get a DNA test and have it signed by a court?  Also, did the US father have to provide high school and college transcripts to prove citizenship to the US?

Any help or support as we navigate this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much! 

My now husband and I were not married when I had our child in Canada. No DNA test was required. Make an appointment with the embassy close by for a CRBA. At the Vancouver embassy, her US citizen father was required to be there. So keep that in mind. Contact the UK embassy to see if the US citizen father must be present. 

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On 9/24/2018 at 5:15 PM, Mrsjackson said:

My now husband and I were not married when I had our child in Canada. No DNA test was required. Make an appointment with the embassy close by for a CRBA. At the Vancouver embassy, her US citizen father was required to be there. So keep that in mind. Contact the UK embassy to see if the US citizen father must be present. 

Thanks so much, this is really Helpful. 

03/23/18 - Sent I-129F Package 

03/26/18 - USCIS received package

03/29/18 - Notification of NOA1 (Text)

04/10/18 - Hard copy of NOA1 (around this date)

xx/xx/18 - RFE/NOA2

xx/xx/18 - Case at NVC/Case # Received

xx/xx/18 - Embassy Received Case

xx/xx/18 - Medical Appointment

xx/xx/18 - Interview Appointment

xx/xx/xx - Visa Received

xx/xx/xx - POE to USA

xx/xx/xx - Wedding date <3

 

Helpful info

USCIS - 800-375-5283.  NVC - (603)-334-0700

How to talk to a live person at USCIShttps://goo.gl/54z5bZ

What to do after NOA2 Approval? How to contact NVC? Click here for info - https://goo.gl/KggThF

If you cannot get NVC on the phone try this - https://secureforms.travel.state.gov/ask-nvc.php

 

Official K1 details and flow

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

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On 9/23/2018 at 9:35 PM, ConOfficer said:

You need the father's passport to prove citizenship. The transcripts can prove he lived in the U.S. for the request 5 years (two years after age 14).

 

DNA may be requested if you have no other evidence that could establish a biological relationship. The consulate would give you instructions in that case. 

OK that's helpful. Thank you! 

03/23/18 - Sent I-129F Package 

03/26/18 - USCIS received package

03/29/18 - Notification of NOA1 (Text)

04/10/18 - Hard copy of NOA1 (around this date)

xx/xx/18 - RFE/NOA2

xx/xx/18 - Case at NVC/Case # Received

xx/xx/18 - Embassy Received Case

xx/xx/18 - Medical Appointment

xx/xx/18 - Interview Appointment

xx/xx/xx - Visa Received

xx/xx/xx - POE to USA

xx/xx/xx - Wedding date <3

 

Helpful info

USCIS - 800-375-5283.  NVC - (603)-334-0700

How to talk to a live person at USCIShttps://goo.gl/54z5bZ

What to do after NOA2 Approval? How to contact NVC? Click here for info - https://goo.gl/KggThF

If you cannot get NVC on the phone try this - https://secureforms.travel.state.gov/ask-nvc.php

 

Official K1 details and flow

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

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On 9/23/2018 at 8:52 PM, debbiedoo said:

different consulates will have different requirements. are you listed on the birth certificate? if so, that may well be all that is needed. for some, a DNA test may be required for confirmation.

 

your birth certificate and passport prove citizenship. school records prove nothing other than where you went to school ;)

It seems some embassy's differ in the DNA requirement, there is no consistent stance on it. Which is fine. It's just more stuff to do and sort. Thank you. 

03/23/18 - Sent I-129F Package 

03/26/18 - USCIS received package

03/29/18 - Notification of NOA1 (Text)

04/10/18 - Hard copy of NOA1 (around this date)

xx/xx/18 - RFE/NOA2

xx/xx/18 - Case at NVC/Case # Received

xx/xx/18 - Embassy Received Case

xx/xx/18 - Medical Appointment

xx/xx/18 - Interview Appointment

xx/xx/xx - Visa Received

xx/xx/xx - POE to USA

xx/xx/xx - Wedding date <3

 

Helpful info

USCIS - 800-375-5283.  NVC - (603)-334-0700

How to talk to a live person at USCIShttps://goo.gl/54z5bZ

What to do after NOA2 Approval? How to contact NVC? Click here for info - https://goo.gl/KggThF

If you cannot get NVC on the phone try this - https://secureforms.travel.state.gov/ask-nvc.php

 

Official K1 details and flow

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/family-immigration/nonimmigrant-visa-for-a-fiance-k-1.html

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2 minutes ago, CaliforniaLovin said:

It seems some embassy's differ in the DNA requirement, there is no consistent stance on it. Which is fine. It's just more stuff to do and sort. Thank you. 

Depends on what satisfies the CO in the biological relationship with the child. Some are more lenient than others. Some will look at the surrounding circumstances more closely but may not require DNA tests. Others want to see DNA proof.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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