Potential problems for me?

[Gaiden79 16]

24 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

It's not his past actions though, it's his current actions of not taking care of his minor children and letting them rely on a single income. It's his current obligations that he's avoiding. Why would he even consider international travel if he owes money to his children? A ticket to the Philippines is quite expensive, if he can pay for it he should pay for his kids to eat. 

When you say all those things it makes me sound pretty bad doesn't it. But it just sounds like you are making wild guesses as to what i am doing and what i did not do. 

 

It's true i did not really pay the child support as i should have but it was because my business in the Philippines did not do well. There was a time i did pay the support as much as i could but i also had a new wife and new daughter in the Philippines to support. My ex-wife in the US was and still is making plenty of money enough for my 2 children with her. 

 

I did call on birthdays and try to keep in contact as much as my ex-wife would allow. I just wanted a new life in the Philippines, a different experience. Now that i am returned to the US i am trying to fix the mistakes i made. I am actively looking for work to both help with child support and petition my new wife.

 

I am concerned about my passport because i will need to return in order to get my Philippines born daughter a birth certificate at the US Embassy in Manila. US Citizen parent should be present. In order to pay for a ticket just to get back to the US i needed help from relatives, i had nothing. 

 

Paints a slightly different picture when you hear the whole story. When people ask for help on these forums don't just assume everything, making judgments before having any knowledge isn't wise. 

[JFH 12,191]

38 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

It's not his past actions though, it's his current actions of not taking care of his minor children and letting them rely on a single income. It's his current obligations that he's avoiding. Why would he even consider international travel if he owes money to his children? A ticket to the Philippines is quite expensive, if he can pay for it he should pay for his kids to eat. 

I completely agree that he shouldn't be jetting around the world, buying plane tickets and paying the fees for the petition for another wife if he's not supporting the children he made with the first wife. They can't eat plane tickets or wear petitions. They need food and clothes and that should be his priority.

 

But USCIS is not about that. Personally it bothers me when anyone has to be taken to court to be ordered to pay child support. They should want to support their children. It shouldn't be an ordeal. But that's my personal view on the matter as the child of a single mother (our father walked out on a wife and five children and refused to pay anything). But that has no bearing on a new petition or is no reason to stop his current wife, assuming she meets all the health and background criteria for immigration, from receiving an immigrant visa. Is it unfair? For his children, certainly. But that's how it is. His ex-wife has various methods of recourse regarding the delinquent support payments. It has nothing to do with the new wife.

 

Now, whether she has made a good choice in marrying a man who can't support the children he already has is another matter. 

[debbiedoo 2,339]

17 minutes ago, Gaiden79 said:

When you say all those things it makes me sound pretty bad doesn't it. But it just sounds like you are making wild guesses as to what i am doing and what i did not do. 

 

It's true i did not really pay the child support as i should have but it was because my business in the Philippines did not do well. There was a time i did pay the support as much as i could but i also had a new wife and new daughter in the Philippines to support. My ex-wife in the US was and still is making plenty of money enough for my 2 children with her. 

 

I am concerned about my passport because i will need to return in order to get my Philippines born daughter a birth certificate at the US Embassy in Manila. US Citizen parent should be present. In order to pay for a ticket just to get back to the US i needed help from relatives, i had nothing. 

 

Paints a slightly different picture when you hear the whole story. When people ask for help on these forums don't just assume everything, making judgments before having any knowledge isn't wise. 

no, it makes the picture worse, actually.

 

how much your ex makes is irrelevant to YOUR obligation to support YOUR children. Don't try to mitigate your lack of responsibility with her ability to provide for your children. Child support is not based on that. And you have a new kid that by your post, seems more important  to you than the others. if you couldnt afford the ones you have, you could have done something to prevent that. you still have to pay for the ones you HAD PLUS baby number 3.

 

youve made a very messy bed and now you must lay in it, roll around, and figure out how to take care of everything and untangle the sheets and none of it will come cheap.

 

 

Edited September 23, 2018 by debbiedoo

[Orangesapples 1,954]

22 minutes ago, Gaiden79 said:

When you say all those things it makes me sound pretty bad doesn't it. But it just sounds like you are making wild guesses as to what i am doing and what i did not do. 

 

It's true i did not really pay the child support as i should have but it was because my business in the Philippines did not do well. There was a time i did pay the support as much as i could but i also had a new wife and new daughter in the Philippines to support. My ex-wife in the US was and still is making plenty of money enough for my 2 children with her. 

 

I did call on birthdays and try to keep in contact as much as my ex-wife would allow. I just wanted a new life in the Philippines, a different experience. Now that i am returned to the US i am trying to fix the mistakes i made. I am actively looking for work to both help with child support and petition my new wife.

 

I am concerned about my passport because i will need to return in order to get my Philippines born daughter a birth certificate at the US Embassy in Manila. US Citizen parent should be present. In order to pay for a ticket just to get back to the US i needed help from relatives, i had nothing. 

 

Paints a slightly different picture when you hear the whole story. When people ask for help on these forums don't just assume everything, making judgments before having any knowledge isn't wise. 

It doesn't make it any better. You chose to move abroad when you have children to support and you chose to start a risky business when you have financial obligations. You also made the choice to get married again and prioritize that over your children and made the choice to have another child when you were failing to be an adequate father to your current ones. 

 

Your first priority now should be your children, not your wife. 

[Gaiden79 16]

7 minutes ago, debbiedoo said:

no, it makes the picture worse, actually.

 

how much your ex makes is irrelevant to YOUR obligation to support YOUR children. Don't try to mitigate your lack of responsibility with her ability to provide for your children. Child support is not based on that. And you have a new kid that by your post, seems more important  to you than the others. if you couldnt afford the ones you have, you could have done something to prevent that. you still have to pay for the ones you HAD PLUS baby number 3.

 

youve made a very messy bed and now you must lay in it, roll around, and figure out how to take care of everything and untangle the sheets and none of it will come cheap.

 

 

Ok, I'm sure people on visa journey don't want to see unnecessary arguments. I will just end it by saying you are right and I am a bad person. 

[debbiedoo 2,339]

Just now, Gaiden79 said:

Ok, I'm sure people on visa journey don't want to see unnecessary arguments. I will just end it by saying you are right and I am a bad person. 

no, not bad person. youve just made a mess and some bad decisions. Clean it all up, do what needs to be done, and you'll be on your way

[Gaiden79 16]

3 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

It doesn't make it any better. You chose to move abroad when you have children to support and you chose to start a risky business when you have financial obligations. You also made the choice to get married again and prioritize that over your children and made the choice to have another child when you were failing to be an adequate father to your current ones. 

 

Your first priority now should be your children, not your wife. 

Thank you, you are right. 

[pushbrk 13,073]

7 hours ago, Gaiden79 said:

You mean that i cannot renew or apply for new one? How would they stop me from using my current one? 

In would be noted in a database that it is suspended.  https://info.legalzoom.com/can-child-support-suspend-passports-24290.html

 

Suspension of Passport

Once a noncustodial parent owes more than $2,500 in past due child support, the state CSE refers his case to the federal Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE). OCSE then submits the case to the U.S. Department of State where he is enrolled in the Passport Denial Program. When you're enrolled in this program, the State Department will restrict or revoke your current passport and instruct Passport Services to deny any new or renewal applications you may submit. Both CSE and Passport Services will notify you once your case has been referred to the Passport Denial Program.

[geowrian 22,338]

9 hours ago, Gaiden79 said:

You mean that i cannot renew or apply for new one? How would they stop me from using my current one? 

Easy - when you try to fly out of the country, they look it up and see it is not valid. They then don't issue the ticket, or deny boarding if it wasn't caught by the airline.

[Gaiden79 16]

3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Easy - when you try to fly out of the country, they look it up and see it is not valid. They then don't issue the ticket, or deny boarding if it wasn't caught by the airline.

I traveled already from Philippines to US. Wouldn't the same rules apply or no? 

[geowrian 22,338]

1 minute ago, Gaiden79 said:

I traveled already from Philippines to US. Wouldn't the same rules apply or no? 

Not necessarily...they can't deny entry to a USC.

It's also possible they just didn't revoke it yet.

[pushbrk 13,073]

1 hour ago, Gaiden79 said:

I traveled already from Philippines to US. Wouldn't the same rules apply or no? 

The reason for the suspension is to keep you from LEAVING the US, not from entering it.  You boarded an international flight because nobody in the Philippines with any authority would know your passport is suspended.  You were allowed to enter the US because you are a US Citizen.  NOW, you cannot use your passport to LEAVE the US until you pay all your back child support.  It really IS that simple.

 

Your new wife can get the CRBA without you being there.  Get a job.  Live frugally.  Meet your financial obligations and then move forward with your new life and family.  The past is the past, but it is not without consequences.

 

Your children in California are fortunate that their mother could afford their care, but that has NOTHING to do with you meeting YOUR obligations.  Time to get on with doing so,  ASAP.