REFUSED for incomplete documents.

[Jeanne Adil 1,651]

2 hours ago, 321voodoo said:

Ty, will submit more even tho we did.  This time I'll submit a whole book of us.........does anyone know how much longer is the next process? We will complete everything today. 

sounds like they denied you

did they keep his passport and say submit more documents?

If not, the new process will be to marry and go thru a CR1 (12 to 14 months to interview from time of application)

[carmel34 3,631]

15 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

sounds like they denied you

did they keep his passport and say submit more documents?

If not, the new process will be to marry and go thru a CR1 (12 to 14 months to interview from time of application)

It sounds like a fairly straightforward request for more information, not a final denial.  Get the information requested to support bona fide relationship, that you said you already have assembled, back to them, as instructed, as quickly as possible, and you should get a decision soon after, hopefully a visa granted.  This article by an immigration attorney might be helpful, as you follow the instructions in the letter exactly:

What Does A Visa Denial Under 221(g) Mean?

By Paris Lee of Lee & Garasia, LLC posted in Common Immigration Questions and Problems on Monday, December 16, 2013.

Sometimes when things don't go as planned in a consular filing case, the visa applicant may be temporarily refused a visa. Perhaps the most common code used by the consulate is 221(g).

What does 221(g) say exactly?

221(g) is can be found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA). The statute says, in part: "No visa or other documentation shall be issued to an alien if (1) it appears to the consular officer, from statements in the application, or in the papers submitted therewith, that such alien is ineligible to receive a visa or such other documentation under section 212, or any other provision of law, (2) the application fails to comply with the provisions of this Act, or the regulations issued thereunder, or (3) the consular officer knows or has reason to believe that such alien is ineligible to receive a visa or such other documentation under section 212, or any other provision of law....."

It is important to understand that while a 221(g) decision can be devastating, it is not necessarily a final decision. Rather, the consular officer has decided to, in effect, put the case on hold pending administrative processing or in many cases, pending the receipt of requested additional documentation. If the case is put under "administrative processing," but the consular officer is not requiring any further information from the applicant, that usually means that there is some sort of background or security check that is being or will have to be conducted before a visa is issued. Unfortunately, consular offices will usually not provide any more information other than that the case is pending. The wait can be extremely frustrating, with some cases pending for close to one year after being placed under administrative processing.

On the other hand, if the consular officer requests additional information or documents from the applicant, the applicant will be in a much better position to address the problem and hopefully see a speedier resolution. In many cases, for example, there may be deficiencies with the Affidavit of Support. While a flat-out denial may too extreme and legally untenable, the officer may ask the applicant to furnish additional financial information or seek an alternative or joint sponsor to overcome any public charge concerns. Provided that the applicant turns in the requested information to the office within the specified time, and assuming that the evidence is satisfactory, the consular officer should then issue the visa. It all depends, of course, on what the alleged problem is, and what documents or information the consular officer is expecting to see to resolve the problem. If the submission does not meet or allay the officer's concerns, the visa may ultimately be denied.

If you or the beneficiary you have filed for, find yourself in the second scenario where you are being asked to supply additional information or documentation, it is extremely important that respond within the designated time. Failure to do can be critical and result in a final denial of the visa. According the Foreign Adjudicator's Manual (FAM), which consular officers look to for procedural guidance, if the applicant fails to supply the evidence purporting to overcome the refusal within one year, officers are instructed to "terminate the registration"-which essentially means that the case will be cancelled. See 9 FAM 42.83 N 1.2.

[WeGuyGal 1,052]

2 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

What do you mean by that? K1 is the visa for finances to use, it's not a shortcut. The wait is shorter but it's a completely legitimate visa to apply for if you're not married

Haha.. I know! 

Sometimes folks get secretly married (let's say in a private ceremony with only family present), but still file for a K1 to get to the US faster. A colleague of ours from India has admitted doing that in recent years when K1s were much faster. 

 

2 hours ago, Jaquelly said:

CR1 wait time is just as long. What are you talking about?

I'm talking about odds for approval based on a bonafide relationship. 

[Mr & Mrs 53]

7 hours ago, 321voodoo said:

We known eachother for 4 years but in a relationship since 2...I've gone to india 3 times about to go again since I'm frustrated... officer asked him questions like.....why didnt I marry him in india......where I work...he was amazed my fiancee spoke english..they spoke about that more than our relationship. The interview was less than 10 mins.

So thats all you need to submit, u must have call details, any chat records ,plane tickets, pics together ,shared account or bills if any ,list of guests and ther relationship to you and marriage date confirmation like one from temple .Did you also submitted intent to marry statement for both of you? 

I think thats all they need ,so u have whole list in front of you what needed for ur visa approval.

[geowrian 22,337]

8 hours ago, 321voodoo said:

We submitted pictures and receipts of plane tickets....hotel receipts. He offered them to see.   They didnt even look at it ..they said.. they didbt need it.  But whatever this is just a knock down but will get up ..my fiancee thinks he was just discriminated.

That's evidence of meeting for the I-129F only. He doesn't need that because 1) I'm assuming it was already provided with the I-129F, and 2) It only shows that you met, not that you are in a bona fide relationship.

The I-129F cares about meeting. The CO cares about a bona fide relationship. It sounds like you only provided documentation of the former, hence he/she is requesting the documentation of the latter now.

Edit: It sounds like you were unaware of the requirements for each step of the process. RapidVisa didn't mention this (not surprised if so)?

Edited September 22, 2018 by geowrian

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9 hours ago, 321voodoo said:

We known eachother for 4 years but in a relationship since 2...I've gone to india 3 times about to go again since I'm frustrated... officer asked him questions like.....why didnt I marry him in india......where I work...he was amazed my fiancee spoke english..they spoke about that more than our relationship. The interview was less than 10 mins.

What did your fiance replied when thy asked why diddnt u marry him in india?

I think all might b bcz what he replied and if thy wre convinced with the answer

[321voodoo 33]

Yeah......rapid visa didnt say anything..  they just helped with first process..but I know now. Little late.

 

He replied saying that it was easier to marry in usa because of my children. But we do have plans is also marrying in india so his family can attend.

 

I think what got us is that he didnt take call logs.

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9 hours ago, H&T said:

Rapidvisa is a BS company. All the information in this group is much more valuable if you do your home work here. Btw, just submit what the CO want and everything will be fine.

Rapid visa is not a BS company. I think people set their expectations too high for companies like this. Rapid Visa is not a leagal form, nor do they claim to be. Rapid visa helps assemble the I29f and creates a very handy worksheet to use to fill out the DS160. Their software makes the process much simpler. The accuracy of the petition is is the responsibility of the petitioner, not Rapid Visa. I’ve used them on four separate occasions successfully and will use them again in the future. From my experience they have delivered exactly what they promised each time.

[geowrian 22,337]

RV usually works fine to help assemble the documents and such.

Sometimes they advise to provide unnecessary documentation, slowing down the process.

Sometimes they give outright wrong advice causing major issues.

Any company makes mistakes. It happens. However, they are pretty well known not to own up to those mistakes or take any responsibility (or even refunds) for them. They've been responsible for advising people to send documents that have caused an RFE or NOID, were sometimes not aware of DCF (which cuts down the CR-1/IR-1 process from 12-16 months down to a only few months), etc.

In most cases, following a simple guide will be faster and more accurate to what is necessary.

As always, YMMV.

Edited September 22, 2018 by geowrian

[Boiler 45,516]

Sadly not the first.

[JFH 12,190]

2 hours ago, dcgood70462 said:

I’ve used them on four separate occasions successfully and will use them again in the future. 

Planning on bringing more fiancés? 😂

[JFH 12,190]

OP, all embassies are different in what they require to be satisfied that the relationship is bona fide. In most Western European embassies, you would not be expected to bring a boxful of evidence of an ongoing relationship but less economically advanced countries require a lot more. This is where the country-specific sections of this forum are very useful so that you can read the experiences of people who have gone before you at the same embassy. 

 

Unfortunately, there has been a higher-than-average rate of K-1 fraud at the embassies in India and so they are very meticulous in making sure that the relationship is bona fide and that you are both single. There have been many cases (not saying this applies to you or anyone on this forum) in India where the couple is already married and using the K-1 to get to the USA quicker than a CR-1. Previously the time difference between K-1 and CR-1 was much bigger - I did a CR-1 in 2016 and it took 10 months 1 day from sending the I-130 to my interview but K-1s were getting through the entire process in 3 months or less. There have also been many cases in India where someone marries a USC in order to immigrate and once they have their GC they divorce and marry a previous partner (often re-marrying someone they divorced shortly before marrying the USC) from India and petition for them. Because of the actions of previous applicants, it’s unfortunate that you have to jump through so many hoops. 

 

Good luck. 

[dcgood70462 23]

5 hours ago, JFH said:

Planning on bringing more fiancés? 😂

Lmao! They actually provide other services such as expedited passport renewals and getting visas. If you need a visa quickly they are a good resource.

[dcgood70462 23]

5 hours ago, JFH said:

OP, all embassies are different in what they require to be satisfied that the relationship is bona fide. In most Western European embassies, you would not be expected to bring a boxful of evidence of an ongoing relationship but less economically advanced countries require a lot more. This is where the country-specific sections of this forum are very useful so that you can read the experiences of people who have gone before you at the same embassy. 

 

Unfortunately, there has been a higher-than-average rate of K-1 fraud at the embassies in India and so they are very meticulous in making sure that the relationship is bona fide and that you are both single. There have been many cases (not saying this applies to you or anyone on this forum) in India where the couple is already married and using the K-1 to get to the USA quicker than a CR-1. Previously the time difference between K-1 and CR-1 was much bigger - I did a CR-1 in 2016 and it took 10 months 1 day from sending the I-130 to my interview but K-1s were getting through the entire process in 3 months or less. There have also been many cases in India where someone marries a USC in order to immigrate and once they have their GC they divorce and marry a previous partner (often re-marrying someone they divorced shortly before marrying the USC) from India and petition for them. Because of the actions of previous applicants, it’s unfortunate that you have to jump through so many hoops. 

 

Good luck. 

Agree, that they are not qualified to give advice. People need to do their own due diligence to understand the process before applying. And yes , you can find the information here and do it yourself. But I see a lot of people one here that should have used a company like RV. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.