Jump to content
KnR17

IR-1 or F-1 in lieu of B-1?

 Share

9 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

I was a member of this board a couple of years ago when I was engaged to another woman. I am happily married now, but my plan to emigrate was derailed by a financial setback. My wife is not eager to immigrate to America but we want her to come as a tourist while I wind down my work career. The consulate in Kiev denied the B-1. Applying for an F-1 visa to an English language institute in my city that does I-20s is one option. I wonder what the consulate would think about an F-1 application coming soon after the B-1 denial. Does anyone have any experience with trying this?

 

The other option is the IR-1. It looks like the green card is nearly immediate and she can freely travel back and forth. I think that if she does not spend at least half of her time in the USA, then the permanent residence status will lapse. But if it is a 10 year green card, I assume that a B-1 visa would no longer be an issue.   Am I on the right track here?

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The IR-1 is not for “traveling back and forth”. It’s an immigrant visa for spouses moving to the USA permanently. If she does decide to use her green card to “travel back and forth” it won’t be long before she will be assumed to have abandoned her residency here if she maintains a hone, job, etc in Ukraine. Prior to that, she will be resident here so will be required to file tax returns here, expected to have health insurance (travel insurance won’t be valid), get a drivers license here or state ID and lose all benefits of residency in her home land. You can’t live in both countries. 

 

The language school sounds phony and any attempt to get a non-immigrant visa with a USC spouse is likely to result in denial. Why does she not want to move? I couldn’t wait to move to be with my husband. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
30 minutes ago, KnR17 said:

I was a member of this board a couple of years ago when I was engaged to another woman. I am happily married now, but my plan to emigrate was derailed by a financial setback. My wife is not eager to immigrate to America but we want her to come as a tourist while I wind down my work career. The consulate in Kiev denied the B-1. Applying for an F-1 visa to an English language institute in my city that does I-20s is one option. I wonder what the consulate would think about an F-1 application coming soon after the B-1 denial. Does anyone have any experience with trying this?

 

The other option is the IR-1. It looks like the green card is nearly immediate and she can freely travel back and forth. I think that if she does not spend at least half of her time in the USA, then the permanent residence status will lapse. But if it is a 10 year green card, I assume that a B-1 visa would no longer be an issue.   Am I on the right track here?

 

Your appropriate option is a B2 based on intent you described above.  But I don't think a spouse can easily overcome the assumption of intent to enter via a non-immigrant visa and adjust status.  When she is ready to make her primary place residence in the US, then start the IR-1 process.  I don't think any of your other options are likely to be successful.  I think any competent CO will see the quick F-1 application as visa shopping to get inside the US for adjustment.....just my opinion.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
1 hour ago, KnR17 said:

Since I intend to immigrate to Ukraine when I retire, it appears that there is no good solution here until we build our house.

Most likely.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
1 hour ago, KnR17 said:

How about this idea? We apply for the IR-1. Assuming it is approved, we then request the B2 and ask them to cancel the IR-1. 

That might work

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, KnR17 said:

How about this idea? We apply for the IR-1. Assuming it is approved, we then request the B2 and ask them to cancel the IR-1. 

The typical process is to obtain the visa, enter on it so you become a permanent resident, then formally abandon permanent residency (I-407).

Then apply for a tourist visa and hope for the best..typically they seem to go along with this but it is very far from guaranteed.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline

Thread is moved from General Immigration Discussion to "What Visa Do I Need."

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...