Wife's Friend Denied Tourist Visa Twice to Visit US from Thailand

[geowrian 22,338]

3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

The table I reference d before https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2017AnnualReport/FY17AnnualReport -TableXVII.pdf is non-immigrant visas issued by nationality, not by post. So they are all Thailand nationals. And to reiterate again, they are ALL actually issued. Both these points are clearly indicated in the headings. 

DOH!!! =_= That' s what I get for relying on memory. I've seen these reports a thousand times.

[jan22 3,056]

9 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

 

The table I reference d before https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2017AnnualReport/FY17AnnualReport -TableXVII.pdf is non-immigrant visas issued by nationality, not by post. So they are all Thailand nationals. And to reiterate again, they are ALL actually issued. Both these points are clearly indicated in the headings.

 

(to further underscore that it is issued by nationality not post, the table includes visas issued for nationals in countries that don’t have their own issuing posts, like St Lucia).

My bad -- I was referring to a report the OP had referenced early-on, which is a workload report.  But then I used the numbers from the report you cited, which -- as you know -- is a nationality-based report.  Didn't realize the OP had used your numbers in his bizarre manipulation of the numbers (and I didn't go look it up myself), and not from the report he had cited.

 

The first paragraph of my reply (re the assumption that there are refusals of B1 or B2 visas) is correct, for what that's worth!

Edited November 1, 2018 by jan22

[faithintrust 0]

13 hours ago, Boiler said:

Nope

 

13 hours ago, geowrian said:

B-1 is business visitor.

B-2 is tourism.

B-1/B-2 is business visitor and/or tourism.

The website says B1/B2 is "combination of both purposes".

So you can't interpret that as being "/or " for the purpose of tourism.

The D160 asks what is the purpose of your trip.  You must choose which type you are applying.

 

[faithintrust 0]

11 hours ago, jan22 said:

I'm not exactly sure what your point is about the 3 "types" of B visas -- they are all visitor visas; the B1 and B1/B2 are visitors for business and the B2 and B1/B2 are visitors for pleasure (i.e., tourists).  Your statement that a B1/B2 is for business is incorrect -- it is for business (the B1 part) or pleasure (the B2 part).

 

But, regardless of that, there is a major error in your reasoning.  There were no B1 or B2 refusals -- there would have been only issuance of individual B visas as opposed to the combination B1/B2 visa.  No matter what a person puts on the DS-160, all visitor visas are entered into the consular computer system as B1/B2, as that is the most common issuance.  It needs to be changed to issue either a B1 or a B2 if the officer decides to approve one instead of the combination.  A change is not made if a visa is being denied.  So, all those changed to either B1 or B2 are issuances and all the refusals were, technically, of B1/B2 visas.

 

Two other points:

      The Annual Report from which you've pulled issuances is a workload statistic, i.e., it is a summary report of an Embassy's non-immigrant visa workload for the year.  It is listed by country, but it does not seperate by nationalities.  That is, there is no breakdown of how many of the 44,414 issuances were for Thai nationals and how many were nationals of other countries who applied in Bangkok for whatever reason.

       However, the report on refusals IS a summary of the refusals of the nationals of that country -- no matter where in the world they applied.  

 

To use the 20% refusal rate on the 44,414 visitor visas processed in Bangkok is a little bit of apples and oranges, as you cannot tell what part of the 20% applied in Thailand as opposed to other countries.  

Thanks for that insight into the process.  You seem like you actually know what you're talking about.

The point of this thread is to address the issue of why a normal Thai woman would be refused a tourist visa. 

My point is very few B2 visas are issued to Thais.

 

[Boiler 45,923]

1 minute ago, faithintrust said:

Thanks for that insight into the process.  You seem like you actually know what you're talking about.

The point of this thread is to address the issue of why a normal Thai woman would be refused a tourist visa. 

My point is very few B2 visas are issued to Thais.

 

So what do you think all those people issued B1/2's are doing, entering for Business Visits or general Tourism?

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