Dallas Police Officer Shot Man in His Apartment After He Didn't Follow ‘Verbal Commands

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

I am pretty confidence they will not charge the person with murder, grand jury would no bill on that charge.........

 

   Depends on many factors which are not yet available. Did they know each other? Was there any history? Was she under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Even if the apartment lights were on or off, or if the door was closed or open could all be either extenuating or mitigating factors in the charge.

 

   At this time I understand why they went with manslaughter. We have seen the risks of over charging and I think they wanted to make sure she didn't get off with nothing because they brought the wrong charge. I also certainly see many factors which could eventually lead to this being a more serious charge. Justice should be served. I don't have an issue with the time it takes. In the end I just want them to get it right.

Edited September 13, 2018 by Steeleballz

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

3 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Depends on many factors which are not yet available. Did they know each other? Was there any history? Was she under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Even if the apartment lights were on or off, or if the door was closed or open could all be either extenuating or mitigating factors in the charge.

   

They did not know each other.

There was no history

She wasn't under influence

 

Stop trying to be Perry Mason,  This from all accounts is a tragic mistake.  Did you ever read the arrest warrant? 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

25 minutes ago, Chris Duffy said:

They did not know each other.

There was no history

She wasn't under influence

 

Stop trying to be Perry Mason,  This from all accounts is a tragic mistake.  Did you ever read the arrest warrant? 

The investigation is on going. How do you know all this  as fact

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

16 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

The investigation is on going. How do you know all this  as fact

It's a pretty big story in Dallas area, from reading the police reports and warrants.

 

Blood was drawn and if there was some type of chemical in her system it would of been leaked or released by now.

 

They also did a search warrant on Botham Jeans apartment to check his phones.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/09/13/evidence-botham-jeans-home-supports-officer-amber-guygers-account-shot-across-room-officials-say

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Chris Duffy said:

They did not know each other.

There was no history

She wasn't under influence

 

Stop trying to be Perry Mason,  This from all accounts is a tragic mistake.  Did you ever read the arrest warrant? 

 

   I just gave a few examples of things that could influence the investigation. I'm not saying they happened, or that they didn't. Neither of us knows all of the details. I think this works best when the investigators do their job and let the investigation run it's course.

30 minutes ago, Chris Duffy said:

It's a pretty big story in Dallas area, from reading the police reports and warrants.

 

Blood was drawn and if there was some type of chemical in her system it would of been leaked or released by now.

 

They also did a search warrant on Botham Jeans apartment to check his phones.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/09/13/evidence-botham-jeans-home-supports-officer-amber-guygers-account-shot-across-room-officials-say

 

    I don't think it's the best assumption that information doesn't exist just because it hasn't been leaked to the press. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

They did not know each other.

There was no history

She wasn't under influence

 

Stop trying to be Perry Mason,  This from all accounts is a tragic mistake.  Did you ever read the arrest warrant? 

 

1 hour ago, Chris Duffy said:

It's a pretty big story in Dallas area, from reading the police reports and warrants.

 

Blood was drawn and if there was some type of chemical in her system it would of been leaked or released by now.

 

They also did a search warrant on Botham Jeans apartment to check his phones.

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/09/13/evidence-botham-jeans-home-supports-officer-amber-guygers-account-shot-across-room-officials-say

You are stating a lot of things as if they are already established “facts”.  The investigation is ongoing, and we the people are not entitled to minute-by-minute updates.  The day it happened, I said there was much more than meets the eye, and it appears to be correct even now.  The results of the drug tests won’t be released right away, nor will information that might compromise the investigation.  

Sometimes things like this take a year or more to wade thru the legal stuff and build a good case.  As Steel said, it’s going to take some time, and it’s best not to rush it and bungle it.  We can all sit here and suppose daily, but that won’t help the victim at all.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I’ll also add that most people make terrible witnesses.  When interviewed right after the event, there was no mention of “I heard knocking and being told to open the door”.  Now, days later, this comes out from two ear-witnesses.  Sounds more to me like they started talking and at least one of them convinced the other this is what happened.  Hard to say for sure, though...

[Enas 21]

2 hours ago, Satisfied said:

I’ll also add that most people make terrible witnesses.  When interviewed right after the event, there was no mention of “I heard knocking and being told to open the door”.  Now, days later, this comes out from two ear-witnesses.  Sounds more to me like they started talking and at least one of them convinced the other this is what happened.  Hard to say for sure, though...

Actually one of the witness I clearly remember did say he had heard knocking before he heard the shot. It's just that the police at the time didn't bother to interview anyone. Which is why Dallas Police no longer are in charge of the investigation. 

 

Even without the witnesses the whole story is fishy. She claims the door was opened but that she put her key in the door.

 

1. How can her key open his door?

 

2. Why the hell put a key in an already open door? 

 

3. Her story has changed she first said that the door was closed but than she changed it to it was slightly open 

 

Also 

 

 

"In addition, Jean's apartment had a red doormat, while Guyger's had no doormat. 

After the shooting, Guyger claimed she had found Jean's door "ajar,” but Merritt has pointed out that the apartment doors have a "sure slam" system and close automatically.

Guyger has been arrested on a manslaughter charge and is currently free on bond. "

Edited September 14, 2018 by Enas

[Enas 21]

5 hours ago, Marty Byrde said:

The investigation is on going. How do you know all this  as fact

The whole investigation is Bull tbh. Because they searched HIS apartment but didn't search hers and they did a drug and alcohol test on her 2 or 3 days AFTER she killed him. And when they did search his apartment they thought it would be a brilliant idea to announce to the public that he had marijuana in there. Marijuana didn't suddenly grow legs and shot him. 

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

5 hours ago, Enas said:

The whole investigation is Bull tbh. Because they searched HIS apartment but didn't search hers and they did a drug and alcohol test on her 2 or 3 days AFTER she killed him. And when they did search his apartment they thought it would be a brilliant idea to announce to the public that he had marijuana in there. Marijuana didn't suddenly grow legs and shot him. 

Not really

 

A warrant was executed for his apartment, by law it has to be done within 72 hours.  Then the findings were released, it was just part of the process and in the correct time frame when it was released.

 

While finding weed in his apartment doesn't make him a bad guy, I am pretty sure it will be entered into evidence and at the trail it maybe relevant as in the part of the defense.

 

Just a FYI

 

It wasn’t the City Of Dallas that released the findings.  It became public record and the media got a hold of it and put it out there. Blame the media for releasing the results of the search warrant.

 

 

Edited September 14, 2018 by Chris Duffy

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

6 hours ago, Enas said:

Actually one of the witness I clearly remember did say he had heard knocking before he heard the shot. It's just that the police at the time didn't bother to interview anyone. Which is why Dallas Police no longer are in charge of the investigation. 

 

Pretty standard for the Texas Rangers to step in and oversee cases like this

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

6 hours ago, Enas said:

The whole investigation is Bull tbh. Because they searched HIS apartment but didn't search hers and they did a drug and alcohol test on her 2 or 3 days AFTER she killed him. And when they did search his apartment they thought it would be a brilliant idea to announce to the public that he had marijuana in there. Marijuana didn't suddenly grow legs and shot him. 

Blood was drawn on her at the scene of the incident from most of the reports I have seen.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

Blood was drawn on her at the scene of the incident from most of the reports I have seen.

That’s pretty standard nowadays I believe.  Pee and bleed when you shoot someone, though not all agencies do this.  To me, a more effective screening program would include random urinalysis.

[Enas 21]

3 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

Blood was drawn on her at the scene of the incident from most of the reports I have seen.

I read it was 2 days after I could be wrong though but have the results come out?

[Enas 21]

4 hours ago, Chris Duffy said:

Not really

 

A warrant was executed for his apartment, by law it has to be done within 72 hours.  Then the findings were released, it was just part of the process and in the correct time frame when it was released.

 

While finding weed in his apartment doesn't make him a bad guy, I am pretty sure it will be entered into evidence and at the trail it maybe relevant as in the part of the defense.

 

Just a FYI

 

It wasn’t the City Of Dallas that released the findings.  It became public record and the media got a hold of it and put it out there. Blame the media for releasing the results of the search warrant.

 

 

It's not even close to relevant if he was high or not. If he had smoked that day or not. Because he didn't shot anyone he didn't do anything wrong. The amount of weed he had is a misdemeanor not even worth prison time if he was alive. 

 

I read somewhere that they want to use to the Stand Your Ground law and if they do than they all need to be slapped. How did she fear for HER life? Let's be honest you're sitting at home walking around maybe getting something to drink or eat and Bam! All the sudden some cop is in your house screaming for you to point your hands up pointing a gun at you. Now that. That's fear.