I-219F Evidence of Relationship

[Nate & Kylie 46]

Mate, you're not alone. We stressed about this, and so have so many others before you.

 

The main stuff is the physical proof. We submitted two sets of plane tickets, photocopies of my passport stamps into the US and some receipts from my time there. But even with all of this it still left us worried it wasn't enough, so we went a step further.

 

My fiance and I also submitted 12 pictures of us together. Clear photo's, no caps or sunnies on and we wrote our names, anyone else in the picture, the date and where it was taken. We also included two statements on how we met which were signed, about 6 screenshots of our initial conversation of when we met and then another half dozen screenshots of conversation from about 6 months later. We made sure they were all time stamped. Then I put in a few print outs of online receipts for flowers I would send her while we were apart and a copy of the engagement ring receipt.

 

There's nothing wrong with beefing your packet up a little - just don't go silly. Having all of that extra stuff gave me a little more piece of mind during the waiting process, and trust me- you'll want that.

[LeesaMarie 206]

18 hours ago, FaintSpartan said:

Ah i see  Thanks!

 

Though, isn't it true that one of the criteria is to prove that the relationship is ongoing? Or did I somehow get that my head accidentally haha. 

 

That's where my worry about proving a successful, active and healthy relationship comes from.

There is nothing in the I-129F that states this is a requirement. Have you read through it?

 

I am also from the UK, and for evidence I submitted Photo's, Itineraries, Facebook location tags coupled with ticket stubs, boarding passes, passport stamps. I wrote on my photo's the locations, and dates, and the full names of anyone who were in the photos. I separated the items into each visit to make it easier. 

 

When compiling the I-129F you need to also remember that someone has to go through all this, so you need to make it as easy as possible. You don't need to beef up anything. You need to meet the requirements, and prove that you have met at least once in the last 2 years.

 

 

 

[FaintSpartan 138]

5 hours ago, LeesaMarie said:

There is nothing in the I-129F that states this is a requirement. Have you read through it?

 

I am also from the UK, and for evidence I submitted Photo's, Itineraries, Facebook location tags coupled with ticket stubs, boarding passes, passport stamps. I wrote on my photo's the locations, and dates, and the full names of anyone who were in the photos. I separated the items into each visit to make it easier. 

 

When compiling the I-129F you need to also remember that someone has to go through all this, so you need to make it as easy as possible. You don't need to beef up anything. You need to meet the requirements, and prove that you have met at least once in the last 2 years.

 

 

 

I must have just imagined it, and yeah I've read through it and it's instructions several times. 

 

Sound advice, thanks  

 

8 hours ago, TNJ17 said:

All the online stuff is unnecessary and not really evidence of anything. You need proof that you met in person in the last 2 years. Passport stamps, plane tickets, pictures, hotel receipts and the like. That’s what they need. No more no less. Pen on paper. And it’s called an i129F by the way. 

Haha, I know that's what it's called, just a typo.  Yeah, thanks, starting to get it now.

 

9 hours ago, JFH said:

The I-129F is the petition stage. It's not the visa application. All the petition is concerned with is the question "is this person legally eligible to bring a foreign fiancé to the USA?". The petitioner must be able to satisfy the eligibility requirements: 

 

- that they are a USC (which is why they must send a copy of their birth certificate, passport or naturalization certificate)

- that they are legally eligible to marry the beneficiary (they are old enough, they are not related in a way that makes marriage illegal, they are not currently married to anyone else or each other - that's why you send divorce decrees or death certificates for previous spouses

- that they have not committed crimes that exclude them from petitioning (USCIS does a background check for that)

- that they have met the beneficiary face-to-face at least once in the last two years

- that they are intending to marry within 90 days of the beneficiary's arrival (hence the letter of intent)

 

Satisfy all those, and you're good for the petition. USCIS is not interested in whether you make a good couple, are compatible, whether they think you look cute together - their manual specifically instructs them that they are not to base the approval or denial of the petition on their thoughts about the relationship. All they are concerned with is eligibility, legal requirements being satisfied. 

 

For London you absolutely do not need the full scrapbook of your relationship with every ice cream receipt, every phone call, every selfie.

Thanks, that's a good breakdown, kind of thing that we need  I had a feeling most of that was the case. Just making sure. 

 

11 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

Another piece of sage advice from a Brit who has done the whole journey from fiancé to US citizen.

If any submission for immigration won't fit in this cardstock mailer, it's too much stuff. 

Haha, that's a good reference point. Thanks  

 

12 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

For a LONDON interview, they will not want to look at any additional ongoing relationship. Nothing. 

 

My thoughts is don't overload with so much stuff that they can't find the real requirements. Quality vs quantity. Show you met face to face with documentation of being in each other's country/state/city and send 6 photos taken a different times or locations. Photos with friends/family are good too. It shows this isn't some secretive fraud scam. And they get to see your happy faces.

 

Screenshots of messages is probably of more value to those who have different native languages. It shows they can actually communicate with each other. You and your fiancé both speak English. (Same but different LOL) Ability to communicate is not such a concern. 

 

Pick out your best stuff and skip trip documentation that isn't in the last two years. You can summarize your relationship briefly (like half a page)..  "We have been together since 20xx and visited each other 25 times", but don't send boarding passes for 25 trips. People actually get their petition approved with one meeting. 

 

Good that I'll be going to London for the interview then! 

 

Yeah good idea not to overload it. We'll try to keep only relevant info in there. Thanks

 

13 hours ago, 4A2 said:

It happened to us.
We pre-loaded our K-1 application with a ton of things. Result-RFE requesting for the same things we had sent.
They requested proof of meeting in the last 2 years. We are a 7 years relationship and living together at the time, so we took everything we had together exactly for the last 2 years and sent it. 10 days later we got approved and received NOA2.

We included a cover letter, made it easy for them to understand and find things. We sent:
 

A requirement that Beneficiary and Petitioner have met in person in the last 2 years:
a. A written statement with Circumstances of Meeting.
b. Copies of Airline ticket Stubs and Receipts – indicating day-month-year
c. Copies of Passport pages Beneficiary and Petitioner – Identification and entry stamps.
d. I94 - Official Website entries for Beneficiary.
e. Photographs of the Beneficiary and Petitioner together.

Sucks that you got an RFE, pretty lucky that it didn't result in another few months wait though! 

 

We've already got our cover letter ready, so that's good. 

 

Thanks for the requirements list, looks like we've got most of those ready already.  

 

[FaintSpartan 138]

Final question for this then... we've got a small description of how we met and the times in which we've met since then, my fiancee believes it would be best if she sent it over to me so I could sign the letter as well as her. Only issue is it would add on another week of waiting, and with such a long wait ahead of us, I don't really want to add onto that unless we have to. 

 

Is it really necessary or that beneficial for me to sign the statement of us meeting as well?

 

Also, thanks for the huge amount of help so far everyone. It's been really beneficial  

[LeesaMarie 206]

16 minutes ago, FaintSpartan said:

Final question for this then... we've got a small description of how we met and the times in which we've met since then, my fiancee believes it would be best if she sent it over to me so I could sign the letter as well as her. Only issue is it would add on another week of waiting, and with such a long wait ahead of us, I don't really want to add onto that unless we have to. 

 

Is it really necessary or that beneficial for me to sign the statement of us meeting as well?

 

Also, thanks for the huge amount of help so far everyone. It's been really beneficial  

I didn't submit an addendum to mine, and this is what we wrote on the form:

 

I had met Lisa’s brother (Brother's name) gaming online, and we continued to be good friends for several years since then. In 2016 he had invited me to visit him. See Part 8 Additional Information.

 

And then in the additional information section we added:

 

I went to London in August 2016, and was introduced to My friend's sister, Lisa. We spent a considerable amount of time together, as well as with friends.

[LeesaMarie 206]

In all fairness if they wanted so much extra information they wouldn't give such a tiny space on the form to explain when you met, and remember, they are only asking for a brief description of when you met in person, not how you fell in love.

 

They want to know the first time you met in person, and the evidence you submit is supposed to support this statement.

Edited September 13, 2018 by LeesaMarie

[4A2 76]

31 minutes ago, FaintSpartan said:

Final question for this then... we've got a small description of how we met and the times in which we've met since then, my fiancee believes it would be best if she sent it over to me so I could sign the letter as well as her. Only issue is it would add on another week of waiting, and with such a long wait ahead of us, I don't really want to add onto that unless we have to. 

 

Is it really necessary or that beneficial for me to sign the statement of us meeting as well?

 

Also, thanks for the huge amount of help so far everyone. It's been really beneficial  

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In my case only the petitioner signed and it worked perfectly fine. 
Besides telling the short story, we strictly stuck to evidence for the last 2 years. That is what is important. 

[FaintSpartan 138]

Alright, thanks everyone