Migrant Families Separated by U.S. Are Refusing Reunification Over Dangers: ACLU

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Migrant Families Separated by U.S. Are Refusing Reunification Over Dangers: ACLU

Tom Hals / September 7, 2018 / 6:39 PM

(Reuters) - Immigrant parents separated from their children by the Trump administration and returned to their homes are refusing to be reunited with their children because their countries are so dangerous, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union told a court on Friday.

“We’ve had very difficult conversations with the parents this week,” Lee Gelernt of the ACLU told a federal judge in San Diego. “As much as they want to be with their child, and it’s heartbreaking, they feel it’s too dangerous.”

Gelernt told the court that he had spent time over the past week in Guatemala trying to locate parents of some of the roughly 300 children in U.S. care and found about two-thirds were refusing to have their child returned to them.

Story continues here:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration/migrant-families-separated-by-u-s-are-refusing-reunification-over-dangers-aclu-idUSKCN1LN2QL

Brief commentary from Rush here:
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018/09/11/some-illegal-immigrant-parents-dont-want-their-kids-back/

Edited September 12, 2018 by TBoneTX

[TBoneTX 45,570]

Regarding the above, is it arrogant of us to impose our standards or assumptions on others in other cultures and circumstances?

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Not arrogant at all.  Those illegal children, though blameless, will become wards of our states. One would hope bleeding heart liberals would step up and adopt them, but I have seen no evidence of that happening.

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Personally speaking if I was in that situation and was afraid of my home country I definitely would suffer not being with my child just for his safety. People are throwing these kids back in Countries where gangs are killing women, men and children and are using women in sex trafficking at young ages. But yet people are saying "They are illegal!" "Go about it the right way." I agree it's not fair that some of us are waiting for years just for legal processing but at the same time if I was afraid for my child's safety you bet I would do whatever it takes.

 

and you can't sit there and say "We care for the childeren" and yet chuck them back into dangerous countries. The right seems to care for a child only when it's in the womb but the moment you give birth its now a inconvenience for them. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Satisfied said:

Not arrogant at all.  Those illegal children, though blameless, will become wards of our states. One would hope bleeding heart liberals would step up and adopt them, but I have seen no evidence of that happening.

One would hope that the right would stop acting like they care for childeren before birth and than simply chuck them back into horrible unimaginable situations after birth. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Enas said:

One would hope that the right would stop acting like they care for childeren before birth and than simply chuck them back into horrible unimaginable situations after birth. 

 

 

How many of these children have you brought into your home?

One would hope that the parents of these children would stop acting like they care for their children to put them into horrible unimaginable situations after birth.  Maybe Planned Parenthood should set up shop there. I heard they were big on caring for children.

 

jj

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send them back anyways.  we can't have trump separating families!

[Enas 21]

1 hour ago, 2018JNJ said:

How many of these children have you brought into your home?

One would hope that the parents of these children would stop acting like they care for their children to put them into horrible unimaginable situations after birth.  Maybe Planned Parenthood should set up shop there. I heard they were big on caring for children.

 

jj

1. Currently not in America but I wouldn't mind being a foster parent for these childeren and giving them a good life. Better than them being killed and raped 

 

2. Easy access to birth control is important in preventing having childeren that you can't care for something that PP gives and promotes (it's not all about abortion) 

 

3. If republicans care so much for childeren why don't they care about throwing them back to where they can be killed and raped? 

 

The fact is I can see it from both sides. It's not fair that my son has to wait for maybe a year just to get citizenship and is doing it right but yet someone can just leave there child and that child gets to stay in the US yet I have to go about it the right way and leave my child back because he can't enter in the US if I want to do it the right way

 

BUT at the same time I get that if my child was being threatened that I would do whatever it takes to protect them even if that means breaking laws. 

Edited September 12, 2018 by Enas

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There are closer countries to escape to when one fears of being killed/persecuted if that's the reason to leave one's country.

 

It seems to just be north and ends in the US, why not Canada especially when they seem to be more welcoming? Oh wait, Canada has an agreement with the US in which you can only file for asylum based on the first safe country you arrive at. Shouldn't this apply to other safe countries south of the US?

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2 minutes ago, Umka36 said:

There are closer countries to escape to when one fears of being killed/persecuted if that's the reason to leave one's country.

 

It seems to just be north and ends in the US, why not Canada especially when they seem to be more welcoming? Oh wait, Canada has an agreement with the US in which you can only file for asylum based on the first safe country you arrive at. Shouldn't this apply to other safe countries south of the US?

Chile is apparently the safest country in Latin America. Uruguay and Panama are also safe so I guess they could go there. 

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Everyone knows 99.9 percent are coming for economic reasons . Let's stop pretending 

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15 hours ago, Enas said:

Personally speaking if I was in that situation and was afraid of my home country I definitely would suffer not being with my child just for his safety. People are throwing these kids back in Countries where gangs are killing women, men and children and are using women in sex trafficking at young ages. But yet people are saying "They are illegal!" "Go about it the right way." I agree it's not fair that some of us are waiting for years just for legal processing but at the same time if I was afraid for my child's safety you bet I would do whatever it takes.

 

and you can't sit there and say "We care for the childeren" and yet chuck them back into dangerous countries. The right seems to care for a child only when it's in the womb but the moment you give birth its now a inconvenience for them.

 

 

Except that’s not how it happens.  Kids are not just “chucked back” into dangerous countries.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

15 hours ago, Enas said:

One would hope that the right would stop acting like they care for childeren before birth and than simply chuck them back into horrible unimaginable situations after birth. 

 

 

How many of these children have you welcomed into your home?

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13 hours ago, Enas said:

Chile is apparently the safest country in Latin America. Uruguay and Panama are also safe so I guess they could go there. 

As previously discussed in other threads, Costa Rica and Belize are closer yet, but they have strict immigration policies.

Peru and Ecuador are now allowing refugee Venezuelans to enter only if they have passports.

Rules are rules (or should be).

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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

As previously discussed in other threads, Costa Rica and Belize are closer yet, but they have strict immigration policies.

Peru and Ecuador are now allowing refugee Venezuelans to enter only if they have passports.

Rules are rules (or should be).

But if a child is already in the US morally I don't know if I can just see them thrown back into a country where they could be killed or raped.