Rejected Twice under 214(b) for 2 year Medical Visa

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, JackLondon said:

Roel, if its a fact that there are no 2 year B2 visa's, with all respect the Embassy should not let somebody pay a fee, visit, and reject them, without telling them it.

What a pathetic world we live in... what you are saying is from the outset when they asked me to attend, it was a no before I even started speaking...

They want your money. It's a business, not a palace of favors. They'll gladly reject you every single time if you keep paying the fee. That's the truth of it.

[Roel 7,193]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Roel, if its a fact that there are no 2 year B2 visa's, with all respect the Embassy should not let somebody pay a fee, visit, and reject them, without telling them it.

 

They don't need to explain you something that's a pretty common knowledge.  You can get 10 year B2 visa, but you won't be allowed to stay in the US for more than 6 months. That info is on every embassy website.

[POA 178]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Roel, if its a fact that there are no 2 year B2 visa's, with all respect the Embassy should not let somebody pay a fee, visit, and reject them, without telling them it.

What a pathetic world we live in... what you are saying is from the outset when they asked me to attend, it was a no before I even started speaking...

 

The other option is, if you get the visa, you can stay here for the duration of the time CBP officer gives you and come back. I am not sure if there are extension allowed.

[SalishSea 18,074]

They are not just looking to make sure you won't work illegally in the US.   The burden is on YOU to disprove immigrant intent.  By law, they are required to assume everyone who seeks a tourist visa (medical, holiday, etc) wants to immigrate to the US.  As an American who has travelled the world, I see how silly this presumption is, but it is still a fact.

 

What ties to the UK did you present?  Spouse?  Children?  

 

Also, assuming the treatment itself is palliative and not curative, what is to stop you from overstaying beyond the two years to continue the treatments?  Even if the cost of the treatment is "reasonable," other associated medical costs in the United States are not.  Imaging scans of any type are hugely expensive, as can be physician fees (usually separate from the cost of treatments), facility fees for inpatient hospital stays, medications, labs/bloods etc.  Would the NHS cover any of this, since you would not have medical insurance coverage here?

 

Just some thoughts.  Good luck :-)

[AshMarty 360]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Roel, if its a fact that there are no 2 year B2 visa's, with all respect the Embassy should not let somebody pay a fee, visit, and reject them, without telling them it.

What a pathetic world we live in... what you are saying is from the outset when they asked me to attend, it was a no before I even started speaking...

I would assume that the embassies would think you would do a little research before you submit an application.

 

They can't predict that someone submitting an application won't know what they are applying for.

 

Everyone on this forum has researched and sent an application for a visa of some kind. I did months of research before submitting for my husbands to make sure we knew if we qualified and for which ones.  

[JackLondon 4]

2 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

 

If they come to study, they will either stay at university dorms or housing that has ties to the universities under international programs. 

 

I have far more experience regarding this topic than you know. Before we were married, my husband was here for work and needed to find a place to rent for a few months. They wouldn't do it, because he had none of the above mentioned documentation... So he ended up staying in a 'business' hotel. Even then, it was thousands of dollars a month just to be able to stay there. 

 

Your situation is not special. There are laws in America, as there are in the UK. I am his wife, but I can't just up and go to Cambridge, demand an apartment and say that they will give me one because I have $200k in American savings. They'd laugh me out of the building.

Jaquelly, what you are stating is is that the rules you laid out in the previous post are sacrement, and they are NOT, they are your vague assumption.

 

There are plenty of people who have visas and yet wouldnt have to prove they earn 3x rent, etc... Perhaps my student visa wasnt the "perfect counter" for you but you are being argumentative.

 

There are work arounds for not being able to prove monthly income, pay it all upfront.

 

 

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, JackLondon said:

Jaquelly, what you are stating is is that the rules you laid out in the previous post are sacrement, and they are NOT, they are your vague assumption.

 

There are plenty of people who have visas and yet wouldnt have to prove they earn 3x rent, etc... Perhaps my student visa wasnt the "perfect counter" for you but you are being argumentative.

 

There are work arounds for not being able to prove monthly income, pay it all upfront.

 

I'm not being vague. I'm trying to express to you that there are things that USCIS might think about, and it is YOUR job to prove to them that you won't be a burden to America if you come here and overstay your visa.

 

Out of curiosity, would an ESTA not cover this? 

 

(They will won't lease to you without a SSN. Just FYI.)

[JackLondon 4]

1 minute ago, AshMarty said:

I would assume that the embassies would think you would do a little research before you submit an application.

 

They can't predict that someone submitting an application won't know what they are applying for.

 

Everyone on this forum has researched and sent an application for a visa of some kind. I did months of research before submitting for my husbands to make sure we knew if we qualified and for which ones.  

Perhaps the field online should have a restriction of 6 months? Allowing me to enter 20 years is redundant, It seems the most sensible thing to do.

 

Or perhaps when they received the application and saw 2 years on a visa that only allows 6 months, they could of cancelled it?

 

Seems the logical intelligent thing to do.

[SalishSea 18,074]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Perhaps the field online should have a restriction of 6 months? Allowing me to enter 20 years is redundant, It seems the most sensible thing to do.

 

Or perhaps when they received the application and saw 2 years on a visa that only allows 6 months, they could of cancelled it?

 

Seems the logical intelligent thing to do.

@JackLondon, 

 

You do realize that the duration of stay allowed even on a 10 year B1/B2 is granted by the border officer at the port of entry, right?  Personally, I have not heard of someone receiving >6 months on a single visit, but maybe others here have?

[JackLondon 4]

2 minutes ago, Jaquelly said:

I'm not being vague. I'm trying to express to you that there are things that USCIS might think about, and it is YOUR job to prove to them that you won't be a burden to America if you come here and overstay your visa.

 

Out of curiosity, would an ESTA not cover this? 

 

(They will won't lease to you without a SSN. Just FYI.)

Jaquelly, I have lived in London all my life, its a similar process here, but there are always work arounds.

 

How do you think I pay £1500 per month rent without a job for the last 8 years?

 

To quote you earlier, "its a business, not a palace of favours", Im sure it wont be too hard for me to find a landlord willing to accept $25k in rent upfront.

 

You must understand that? following your thought and all that...

[Roel 7,193]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Jaquelly, I have lived in London all my life, its a similar process here, but there are always work arounds.

 

How do you think I pay £1500 per month rent without a job for the last 8 years?

 

To quote you earlier, "its a business, not a palace of favours", Im sure it wont be too hard for me to find a landlord willing to accept $25k in rent upfront.

 

You must understand that? following your thought and all that...

Might be hard to do, because I don't see you actually getting a visa. You can't "buy" yourself that.

 

And dunno how you live without job. Then again I've been hearing that British unemployment benefits are quite nice.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

Jaquelly, I have lived in London all my life, its a similar process here, but there are always work arounds.

 

How do you think I pay £1500 per month rent without a job for the last 8 years?

 

To quote you earlier, "its a business, not a palace of favours", Im sure it wont be too hard for me to find a landlord willing to accept $25k in rent upfront.

 

You must understand that? following your thought and all that...

 

You can be as rude to me as you want. It won't change the fact that you've been denied twice, have no ties to the UK, have no reasonable route to the US and are now arguing with a group of people who help people on this very website daily.

 

Immigration and visas to the US, regardless of reason, are complicated and can be denied easily without ties. I am sure that is easily understood by anyone.

[JackLondon 4]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

@JackLondon, 

 

You do realize that the duration of stay allowed even on a 10 year B1/B2 is granted by the border officer at the port of entry, right?  Personally, I have not heard of someone receiving >6 months on a single visit, but maybe others here have?

Jorgedig, I did post the 6 months ceiling in some posts back, T was told the same from a solicitor.

 

It seems common sense that most - if not all - wont be familiar with every possible clause for Visas, especially as they provide boiler plate rejection notices, which are vague by design, and list multiple reasons for denial.

 

If my rejection was for the above, all they had to do was say so...

 

[SalishSea 18,074]

Just now, Roel said:

Might be hard to do, because I don't see you actually getting a visa. You can't "buy" yourself that.

 

And dunno how you live without job. Then again I've been hearing that British unemployment benefits are quite nice.

Family money.  As evidenced by his statement that if he were to need cash while here on a B visa, mum would wire 500k pounds sterling.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

Family money.  As evidenced by his statement that if he were to need cash while here on a B visa, mum would wire 500k pounds sterling.

Yeah but his mum can't buy that visa for him.