Rejected Twice under 214(b) for 2 year Medical Visa

[CEE53147 559]

Why have you not consulted an immigration attorney to assist you.

 

I am skeptical that you have sufficient funding to live in the LA area for several years without working illegally. Did you provide evidence of hundred of thousands in your bank account?

[JackLondon 4]

34 minutes ago, CEE53147 said:

Why have you not consulted an immigration attorney to assist you.

 

I am skeptical that you have sufficient funding to live in the LA area for several years without working illegally. Did you provide evidence of hundred of thousands in your bank account?

I didnt contact one because as far as I was concerned I had nothing to worry about, being rejected twice I can now see it would have been wise.

 

I did have statements to show I had enough funding, but they didnt ask for them.

 

Also hundreds of thousands is a massive over-estimate of what would be needed... are you suggesting that regular US citizens who rent(as I would) are in credit of or receive hundreds of thousands per 2 years? They do not.

 

There were/are thousands of places to rent for $1100 per month.... include $600 for food, $400 for electricity/gas , $50 for mobile, around $26k per year...

 

Anyway, even if it costed $50k per year it isnt an issue.

 

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live? The same applies to the UK, I can rent in London for £1300 per month, or the US for $1100, its pretty much exactly the same... nothing out of the ordinary.

 

 

Edited September 10, 2018 by JackLondon

[Roel 7,193]

2 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

.. are you suggesting that regular US citizens who rent(as I would) are in credit of or receive hundreds of thousands per 2 years? They do not.

 

 

2 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live?

 

 

Ordinary US citizen have jobs? 

 

To live in the US for 2 year - somewhat comfortably - you would need at least 80,000$ - 100,000$ in my opinion.

If you have that much, great!

 

You - as a visitor - will not be able to work - it would be pure illegal. Most US employers only hire foreigners with proper work visas/work permits/green card.

As a B2 visa holder, you do not qualify to work.

[POA 178]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

I didnt contact one because as far as I was concerned I had nothing to worry about, being rejected twice I can now see it would have been wise.

 

I did have statements to show I had enough funding, but they didnt ask for them.

 

Also hundreds of thousands is a massive over-estimate of what would be needed... are you suggesting that regular US citizens who rent(as I would) live on hundreds of thousands per 2 years? They do not.

 

There were/are thousands of places to rent for $1100 per month.... include $600 for food, $400 for electricity/gas , $50 for mobile, around $26k per year...

 

Anyway, even if it costed $50k per year it isnt an issue.

 

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live? The same applies to the UK, I can rent in London for £1300 per month, or the US for $1100, its pretty much exactly the same... nothing out of the ordinary.

 

 

 

Depending on where you will stay, $26k doesn't seem to be a very comfortable budget. Add the fact that you are coming here for medical. Just to give you an example, a friend of my gave birth and her kid was in ICU for 3 days due to low sugar something. Bill was $217k. Living may be doable with $50k budget per year, but if you are seeking medical help, you will be looking at hundreds of thousands. Of course, that depends on your medical treatment. 

[AshMarty 360]

9 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

I didnt contact one because as far as I was concerned I had nothing to worry about, being rejected twice I can now see it would have been wise.

 

I did have statements to show I had enough funding, but they didnt ask for them.

 

Also hundreds of thousands is a massive over-estimate of what would be needed... are you suggesting that regular US citizens who rent(as I would) are in credit of or receive hundreds of thousands per 2 years? They do not.

 

There were/are thousands of places to rent for $1100 per month.... include $600 for food, $400 for electricity/gas , $50 for mobile, around $26k per year...

 

Anyway, even if it costed $50k per year it isnt an issue.

 

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live? The same applies to the UK, I can rent in London for £1300 per month, or the US for $1100, its pretty much exactly the same... nothing out of the ordinary.

 

 

They might have been referencing that cost of living on top of cost of two years of medical treatments in the US. 

 

I frequently see embassy sponsored patients (mostly from the middle east) for Medical/Rehab (Spinal Cord Injuries) but the embassies sponsors all medical treatments which are hundreds of thousands of dollars while they are here. Most of them aren't allow to be here more than 9-12 months tops. But most are usually only here for 3-4 months. 

Edited September 10, 2018 by AshMarty

[Jaquelly 1,647]

5 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

I didnt contact one because as far as I was concerned I had nothing to worry about, being rejected twice I can now see it would have been wise.

 

I did have statements to show I had enough funding, but they didnt ask for them.

 

Also hundreds of thousands is a massive over-estimate of what would be needed... are you suggesting that regular US citizens who rent(as I would) are in credit of or receive hundreds of thousands per 2 years? They do not.

 

There were/are thousands of places to rent for $1100 per month.... include $600 for food, $400 for electricity/gas , $50 for mobile, around $26k per year...

 

Anyway, even if it costed $50k per year it isnt an issue.

 

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live? The same applies to the UK, I can rent in London for £1300 per month, or the US for $1100, its pretty much exactly the same... nothing out of the ordinary.

 

 

 

$26k a year would NOT allow you to have an $1100 a month apartment. It's not just the rent. It's rent (the actual apartment), electric, water, gas, pest, trash and then your additional amenities like cable, cell phone, internet. You're not being realistic here. Especially out on the west coast. Also, finding a place that will lease to you without a job is almost damn impossible. You'd have to stay in a long term hotel that will let you pay up front.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Furthermore, if you think that an apartment complex in the states is going to lease to you without the following:

 

1. Social Security Number

2. Proof that you make at least 3x your monthly rent in income

3. Proof of job

4. Proof of lawful status

5. Credit history (if you have none, expect a HEFTY down payment)

 

You are sadly mistaken and need to do more research.

[JackLondon 4]

4 minutes ago, Roel said:

 

Ordinary US citizen have jobs? 

 

To live in the US for 2 year - somewhat comfortably - you would need at least 80,000$ - 100,000$ in my opinion.

If you have that much, great!

 

You - as a visitor - will not be able to work - it would be pure illegal. Most US employers only hire foreigners with proper work visas/work permits/green card.

As a B2 visa holder, you do not qualify to work.

 

You missed my point, even if the said US citizens have jobs, they don't earn hundreds of thousands within 2 years...

 

I have proof of £200k in savings, so can we leave this argument to rest?

 

I already stated I had enough to support myself, that should of been enough.

 

I dont need to work, I can support myself, and If I cant, I can ask my mother for £500k emergency wire just to prove a point... there is no argument to be had here.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

6 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

 

There were/are thousands of places to rent for $1100 per month.... include $600 for food, $400 for electricity/gas , $50 for mobile, around $26k per year...

 

Anyway, even if it costed $50k per year it isnt an issue.

 

How do they expect ordinary US citizens to live? The same applies to the UK, I can rent in London for £1300 per month, or the US for $1100, its pretty much exactly the same... nothing out of the ordinary.

 

 

$26k per year sounds like a very low estimate for metropolitan California. An obvious expense you left out is transport. Plus the cost of the medical treatment, plus the cost of general health insurance for which given your circumstance won’t be cheap.

 

clearly the embassy thought something didn’t add up in your application and if you’re convinced they would have been fine with the medical aspect (and I guess EU regulations won’t be an issue much longer, will they?) then they were clearly sceptical that you had the funds to meet your obligations and that you might have to work (to answer your question, like ordinary US citizens do to live), and/or that you have no incentive to go back to the UK after treatment is complete.

[JackLondon 4]

1 minute ago, Jaquelly said:

Furthermore, if you think that an apartment complex in the states is going to lease to you without the following:

 

1. Social Security Number

2. Proof that you make at least 3x your monthly rent in income

3. Proof of job

4. Proof of lawful status

5. Credit history (if you have none, expect a HEFTY down payment)

 

You are sadly mistaken and need to do more research.

So what about the thousands of people who come to the US to study from India, and other nations alike?

 

You think they have all that?

[POA 178]

2 minutes ago, JackLondon said:

 

You missed my point, even if the said US citizens have jobs, they don't earn hundreds of thousands within 2 years...

 

I have proof of £200k in savings, so can we leave this argument to rest?

 

I already stated I had enough to support myself, that should of been enough.

 

I dont need to work, I can support myself, and If I cant, I can ask my mother for £500k emergency wire just to prove a point... there is no argument to be had here.

 

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

So what about the thousands of people who come to the US to study from India, and other nations alike?

 

You think they have all that?

 

They have student visa's that lets them stay here for the duration of their study and they can stay in dorms. 

 

When I moved here holding a green card(spouse visa), my husband and I got an apartment and the requirements are our rent history, credit history and proof of income. Lucky for me, my husband has a rent history and good credit and both have job. They did background check too.

Edited September 10, 2018 by POA

[JackLondon 4]

Just now, JackLondon said:

So what about the thousands of people who come to the US to study from India, and other nations alike?

 

You think they have all that?

Anyhow, As it goes without saying that I wouldnt be able to work, I would be happy to pay any landlord 12 months rent in advance, or if it was required, 24 months...

 

Arguing here over costs is pointless, I already know I can afford everything, as mentioned, furthermore the CO never asked for any proof of this, they took my word for it.

[Roel 7,193]

1 minute ago, JackLondon said:

So what about the thousands of people who come to the US to study from India, and other nations alike?

 

 

They live on school campus.

 

Ok, though even if you have enough money to cover 2 years stay - there is no 2 year B2 visas. B2/B1 won't give you more than 6 months imo.

And your chances are 0 to none after being rejected twice.

[Jaquelly 1,647]

Just now, JackLondon said:

So what about the thousands of people who come to the US to study from India, and other nations alike?

 

You think they have all that?

 

If they come to study, they will either stay at university dorms or housing that has ties to the universities under international programs. 

 

I have far more experience regarding this topic than you know. Before we were married, my husband was here for work and needed to find a place to rent for a few months. They wouldn't do it, because he had none of the above mentioned documentation... So he ended up staying in a 'business' hotel. Even then, it was thousands of dollars a month just to be able to stay there. 

 

Your situation is not special. There are laws in America, as there are in the UK. I am his wife, but I can't just up and go to Cambridge, demand an apartment and say that they will give me one because I have $200k in American savings. They'd laugh me out of the building.

[JackLondon 4]

Just now, Roel said:

They live on school campus.

 

Ok, though even if you have enough money to cover 2 years stay - there is no 2 year B2 visas. B2/B1 won't give you more than 6 months imo.

And your chances are 0 to none after being rejected twice.

Roel, if its a fact that there are no 2 year B2 visa's, with all respect the Embassy should not let somebody pay a fee, visit, and reject them, without telling them it.

What a pathetic world we live in... what you are saying is from the outset when they asked me to attend, it was a no before I even started speaking...