My husbands visa was denied solely on the reason we met on facebook. Is it a legal reason?

[Roel 7,193]

If they would deny people because they met online or because of poor English, then oh boy 90% of k1 and cr1 should be denied. 

[RainbowGuppy 6]

1 minute ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

Although meeting on Facebook may be an issue they will place on your NOIR it would not be the sole reason for the denied visa.   Most likely you just did not satisfy the embassy of a bonafide relationship and will have a chance to prove them otherwise when your case reaches USCIS.   Meeting my husband online was point #1 listed on our NOIR of the embassy claims...and it said "Beneficiary claims to have met the petitioner through an online game" that's it.  No further explanation....but there were 3 other reasons stated in the letter besides this.   In which we have overcome all.   

 

IF your case is returned you'll have a chance to rebut the embassy's claims.  Make sure you document your husbands entire recollection of the interview.  Its extremely important that you know every detail before the NOIR arrives so you can begin working on your case 

We gave them ample proof we talk beyond facebook, we gave proof of when I went to visit him last year, we gave proof we have talked on the phone and we talk regularly on whatsapp. We video chat daily and gave proof of that too.  We said we met on facebook but gave plenty of proof otherwise. 

It says on the paper "sending for revocation" 

 

I feel as if it was for some other reason, they would have told us.

[JFH 12,191]

3 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

They gave him the paper saying why it was denied and the only thing written on it was across the top saying it was denied. No other reason was marked on the paper. Every thing I sent them was accepted online. He also said about it was that they Said that his English was poor. (Which shouldn't matter) 

if it was because we didn't meet enough times or that it was because he was unfit to marry then would they have just said that directly instead of telling him that it was denied because we ment on facebook? 

Since his English is poor, he may have misunderstood. They probably said that it’s because your relationship seems to be completely carried out on Facebook. Only one face-to-face visit. From your previous posts you sent things from Facebook as your evidence for the I-130 but not much else. It seems like this is a Facebook-only relationship. Has he met your family? Did you include birthday or holiday cards sent to him by your family? Or ones sent by his family to you? Do you have anything other than Facebook chats to demonstrate your marriage?

 

Also if his English is poor, despite communicating with an American daily for the last 6 years, they could also be concerned that you can’t communicate well with each other. Or that you don’t communicate regularly at all. Since he wants to move here, did he not think it might be a good idea to take some English classes? 

[Ahmed&Freda 628]

Just now, RainbowGuppy said:

We gave them ample proof we talk beyond facebook, we gave proof of when I went to visit him last year, we gave proof we have talked on the phone and we talk regularly on whatsapp. We video chat daily and gave proof of that too.  We said we met on facebook but gave plenty of proof otherwise. 

It says on the paper "sending for revocation" 

 

I feel as if it was for some other reason, they would have told us.

We also supplied the same we had 3 trips by the time of our interview,   Three photo albums of pictures,  plenty chat and phone logs showing 5-10 hours of video communication each day in addition to text throughout.  Even statements from family members....and last point on our NOIR was "not enough evidence of bonafide relationship".

 

So its not a matter as much as what you submitted its if they believe it or not.

[Crazy Cat 42,215]

2 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

We gave them ample proof we talk beyond facebook, we gave proof of when I went to visit him last year, we gave proof we have talked on the phone and we talk regularly on whatsapp. We video chat daily and gave proof of that too.  We said we met on facebook but gave plenty of proof otherwise. 

It says on the paper "sending for revocation" 

 

I feel as if it was for some other reason, they would have told us.

Your definition of "ample" might not agree with the CO's definition, unfortunately. 

[RainbowGuppy 6]

2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Your definition of "ample" might not agree with the CO's definition, unfortunately. 

So what does it mean?? 

Nobody is giving me actual information on what I should be doing next? 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

3 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

We gave them ample proof we talk beyond facebook, we gave proof of when I went to visit him last year, we gave proof we have talked on the phone and we talk regularly on whatsapp. We video chat daily and gave proof of that too.  We said we met on facebook but gave plenty of proof otherwise. 

It says on the paper "sending for revocation" 

 

I feel as if it was for some other reason, they would have told us.

Other people have pointed out that it seems like you only had one in-person visit in six years. Is this true???? If yes, then you should not be surprised your husband got denied.

[JFH 12,191]

Are there any other red flags in your case? What’s the age difference? Are you of the same religion and ethnic background? How many previous marriages? What kind of work do you both do? I did see a denial once where it was assumed they couldn’t possibly have a genuine relationship as one had a PhD and the other didn’t complete high school. 

Just now, RainbowGuppy said:

So what does it mean?? 

Nobody is giving me actual information on what I should be doing next? 

Not much you can do until the file goes back to USCIS and you get the NOIR in the mail. That will take a long time. 

[RainbowGuppy 6]

3 minutes ago, JFH said:

Are there any other red flags in your case? What’s the age difference? Are you of the same religion and ethnic background? How many previous marriages? What kind of work do you both do? I did see a denial once where it was assumed they couldn’t possibly have a genuine relationship as one had a PhD and the other didn’t complete high school. 

He has a bachelor of arts and I have an associate's of science. We are both Muslim.and the same age. Neither of us have been married before. He owns his own business and I am full time at Wal-Mart. 

Edited September 6, 2018 by RainbowGuppy

[usmsbow 802]

2 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

So what does it mean?? 

Nobody is giving me actual information on what I should be doing next? 

 

It means you two should see each other more than once every 6 years. You should build more "evidence" of your marriage being legitimate. From what you've told us, the way you build up that evidence is more time together, in person. If that isn't possible, then well I'd say you're in quite a bind, sorry.

 

 

[Crazy Cat 42,215]

8 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

So what does it mean?? 

Nobody is giving me actual information on what I should be doing next? 

@Ahmed&Freda has given you excellent advice.

[JFH 12,191]

6 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

He has a bachelor of arts and I have an associate's of science. We are both Muslim.and the same age. Neither of us have been married before. He owns his own business and I am full time at Wal-Mart. 

Did you convert for him or is your family Muslim? 

[RainbowGuppy 6]

10 minutes ago, JFH said:

Since his English is poor, he may have misunderstood. They probably said that it’s because your relationship seems to be completely carried out on Facebook. Only one face-to-face visit. From your previous posts you sent things from Facebook as your evidence for the I-130 but not much else. It seems like this is a Facebook-only relationship. Has he met your family? Did you include birthday or holiday cards sent to him by your family? Or ones sent by his family to you? Do you have anything other than Facebook chats to demonstrate your marriage?

 

Also if his English is poor, despite communicating with an American daily for the last 6 years, they could also be concerned that you can’t communicate well with each other. Or that you don’t communicate regularly at all. Since he wants to move here, did he not think it might be a good idea to take some English classes? 

Thank you, finally some real answers. However since we met, we have been talking daily on various platforms including facebook, Skype, actual phone calls, whatsapp, and email. I sent him all the paperwork we needed and he printed roof of our talks beyond facebook. He has met my family on facebook and talks to them regularly. We have applied for a visit visa for him.to come here but it was denied as he failed to give enough proof that he would return after the visit whichdoaent make sense as I don't know what more proof he could of provided as he owns his own business and is the boss there. His English is not perfect but I can clearly understand what he is saying. 

[JFH 12,191]

Just now, RainbowGuppy said:

Thank you, finally some real answers. However since we met, we have been talking daily on various platforms including facebook, Skype, actual phone calls, whatsapp, and email. I sent him all the paperwork we needed and he printed roof of our talks beyond facebook. He has met my family on facebook and talks to them regularly. We have applied for a visit visa for him.to come here but it was denied as he failed to give enough proof that he would return after the visit whichdoaent make sense as I don't know what more proof he could of provided as he owns his own business and is the boss there. His English is not perfect but I can clearly understand what he is saying. 

We are back to Facebook again. So he’s only “met” your family on Facebook? Has he ever sent a birthday card to your mother? Talked to your family on the phone? Sent them greetings for religious holidays (like Christians send Christmas cards)? Has your family ever sent him anything for his birthday? How long was your one visit? 

[mushroomspore 3,044]

3 minutes ago, RainbowGuppy said:

Thank you, finally some real answers. However since we met, we have been talking daily on various platforms including facebook, Skype, actual phone calls, whatsapp, and email. I sent him all the paperwork we needed and he printed roof of our talks beyond facebook. He has met my family on facebook and talks to them regularly. We have applied for a visit visa for him.to come here but it was denied as he failed to give enough proof that he would return after the visit whichdoaent make sense as I don't know what more proof he could of provided as he owns his own business and is the boss there. His English is not perfect but I can clearly understand what he is saying. 

You definitely need more in-person visits together.