Anonymous White House Writer Isn't A Patriot. They're Betraying The Constitution

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

30 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

More or a higher percentage?

Higher percentage.. which would lead to a more likely chance of coming across government cheese. 

 

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

More is an abiguous concept when discussing population density. If I live in a village of 100, a %20 condition of interest would amount to 20 people, in a city of 10,000,000 a %10 condition would equate to a 1,000,000 people. Which would you consider more? The urban or the rural area, based on density percentages the rural problem is twice as high, based on numbers of people the urban areas is 5000 times worse than the rural ares

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Rural areas use more welfare. 

Since your link was already discussed and dismissed in a previous thread here on VJ, let me help you out with more pictures that may paint a more accurate picture.  The NPR piece was simply a opinion piece based on some incomplete medicare data.

Notice how the red in the upper map (drug abuse) more closely corresponds with the areas on the lower map in blue (democratic voters).

Drugs:

 

 

Voters:

Edited September 8, 2018 by Satisfied

[Neonred 3,636]

So the Dems are druggers.

 

I knew by what they have been saying lately they must be high.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Back up my claim.. ok...

Opioid use 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/23/622692550/analysis-finds-geographic-overlap-in-opioid-use-and-trump-support-in-2016

 

"Why Young People Leave

Rural areas lack academic and economic opportunity compared to metropolises. Because of this, a large portion of migrants are talented high school graduates. This cause-effect relationship, known as “brain drain,” robs rural areas of intellectual capital."

 

https://publicpolicy.wharton.upenn.edu/live/news/2393-rural-america-is-losing-young-people-

 

More on rural America. 

 

https://www.princeton.edu/news/2018/02/22/wuthnow-discusses-left-behind-decline-and-rage-rural-america

I replied to the inaccurate part of your post about opioids in one of your other posts.  Now we can discuss the “more opportunity” concept here.  I agree with you that more young people will flock to the urban areas.  (The promise of wealth and success has drawn suckers for decades to be movie stars or similar in CA and NY). But herein lies the rub... they are young, and have not much to lose, so they move to these places where they can earn more.  And they often do.  Only to discover that they are paying WAY more in taxes than in their rural locations.  Something which older, wiser people know, so THEY move to the lower-cost areas to live.  Making a higher wage does NOT equate to putting more money in the bank.  When I lived in AL, in a VERY rural area, I was able to put more money in the bank than I am now, living in FL.  While I make more annually now than when I lived in AL, my cost of living is 24.8% higher.  While my income is NOT that much higher, so overall, I am losing money by living in this here urbanized area.  In fact, I would have to make about $17,000 more in FL than I did in AL to about break even with higher housing, food, and utility costs.  Not too many young people will have the forethought to comprehend and factor that into their desire to be more urban.

Long story short... they may move away now, but it is very likely that they will move back when they are older and wiser.  Maybe.

 

[jg121783 3,921]

1 hour ago, Satisfied said:

Long story short... they may move away now, but it is very likely that they will move back when they are older and wiser.  Maybe.

Just like they may be liberals now but many of them when they become older and wiser will become conservatives. As the saying goes if you are not a liberal when you are 20 you have no heart. If you are not a conservative by the time you are 30 you have no brain.

[Dashinka 24,754]

5 hours ago, Neonred said:

So the Dems are druggers.

 

I knew by what they have been saying lately they must be high.

They seem to be coming up with some new synthetic drugs.

[yuna628 9,705]

Guys: Are you seriously trying to argue that drug abuse has a political skew? Being a Democrat or Republican does not make you more likely to take or abuse drugs. My county is one of the highest drug users in this state and is solidly in the red column. I have seen more people strung out in this town than I ever saw in Baltimore in public on a good day. Rural areas, which are also typically more conservative also have explosions of drug abuse - people are moving out of the cities and moving drugs with them. The runners are going where they make the highest profit. Drugs do not discriminate. It starts when young, dumb, and not even 'clued' in to a political ideology with peer pressure, socio-economic factors, or the person becomes dependent after an injury, and many others...

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Guys: Are you seriously trying to argue that drug abuse has a political skew? Being a Democrat or Republican does not make you more likely to take or abuse drugs. My county is one of the highest drug users in this state and is solidly in the red column. I have seen more people strung out in this town than I ever saw in Baltimore in public on a good day. Rural areas, which are also typically more conservative also have explosions of drug abuse - people are moving out of the cities and moving drugs with them. The runners are going where they make the highest profit. Drugs do not discriminate. It starts when young, dumb, and not even 'clued' in to a political ideology with peer pressure, socio-economic factors, or the person becomes dependent after an injury, and many others...

I do believe the start of this delightful conversation that rural areas use higher levels of welfare based on percentage of the population receiving benefits it was countered that higher numbers of welfare recipients lived in non rural areas based on # of people receiving benefits. Asked for proof a suspect statistical analysis of drug usage amongst Trump users was given as proof, debated and this is where it landed. 

 

On a side note I lived in Baltimore in the 80s and 90s I don't think you witnessed the same people I ran across, there were far more very strung out people there than my current small town Ohio location

[Merle 458]

9 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Rural areas use more welfare. 

This study doesn't support your claim:

 

"The U.S. Census Bureau today released data that show that nationally, rural Americans have lower median household incomes than urban households, but people living in rural areas have lower poverty rates than their urban counterparts."

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/12/a_comparison_of_rura.html

Edited September 9, 2018 by Merle

[TBoneTX 46,041]

On 9/8/2018 at 1:20 AM, Satisfied said:

the electoral college is what is best for the US overall. It keeps the high-density population centers like NY and CA from controlling the rest of the US.  Imagine how you’d feel if my family were able to control your family because there was one more person in mine, even though we were on opposite ends of the country.

The Founders anticipated the circumstance of two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

14 hours ago, Satisfied said:

I replied to the inaccurate part of your post about opioids in one of your other posts.  Now we can discuss the “more opportunity” concept here.  I agree with you that more young people will flock to the urban areas.  (The promise of wealth and success has drawn suckers for decades to be movie stars or similar in CA and NY). But herein lies the rub... they are young, and have not much to lose, so they move to these places where they can earn more.  And they often do.  Only to discover that they are paying WAY more in taxes than in their rural locations.  Something which older, wiser people know, so THEY move to the lower-cost areas to live.  Making a higher wage does NOT equate to putting more money in the bank.  When I lived in AL, in a VERY rural area, I was able to put more money in the bank than I am now, living in FL.  While I make more annually now than when I lived in AL, my cost of living is 24.8% higher.  While my income is NOT that much higher, so overall, I am losing money by living in this here urbanized area.  In fact, I would have to make about $17,000 more in FL than I did in AL to about break even with higher housing, food, and utility costs.  Not too many young people will have the forethought to comprehend and factor that into their desire to be more urban.

Long story short... they may move away now, but it is very likely that they will move back when they are older and wiser.  Maybe.

 

What's there to discuss... I posted pretty legit .edu sources.. I'm not an expert  in the subject. 

I've never lived in a rural area,  unless you consider Bowling Green ohio in the 90s rural. 

 

It's no secret that in every country and culture.. young people are moving away from farm life to pursue other opportunities. I don't really get how you can argue against this. 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

8 hours ago, Merle said:

This study doesn't support your claim:

 

"The U.S. Census Bureau today released data that show that nationally, rural Americans have lower median household incomes than urban households, but people living in rural areas have lower poverty rates than their urban counterparts."

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/12/a_comparison_of_rura.html

Well the study is about poverty rates not welfare usage. That's your first problem. 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

9 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Guys: Are you seriously trying to argue that drug abuse has a political skew? Being a Democrat or Republican does not make you more likely to take or abuse drugs. My county is one of the highest drug users in this state and is solidly in the red column. I have seen more people strung out in this town than I ever saw in Baltimore in public on a good day. Rural areas, which are also typically more conservative also have explosions of drug abuse - people are moving out of the cities and moving drugs with them. The runners are going where they make the highest profit. Drugs do not discriminate. It starts when young, dumb, and not even 'clued' in to a political ideology with peer pressure, socio-economic factors, or the person becomes dependent after an injury, and many others...

Drugs are extremely political topic.. if it wasn't there wouldn't be a resistance to the legalization of marijuana and drug companies getting subsidies to develope new drugs. 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

9 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

I do believe the start of this delightful conversation that rural areas use higher levels of welfare based on percentage of the population receiving benefits it was countered that higher numbers of welfare recipients lived in non rural areas based on # of people receiving benefits. Asked for proof a suspect statistical analysis of drug usage amongst Trump users was given as proof, debated and this is where it landed. 

 

On a side note I lived in Baltimore in the 80s and 90s I don't think you witnessed the same people I ran across, there were far more very strung out people there than my current small town Ohio location

I was born in Baltimore in the 80s... Fun fact lol

 

The drug epidemic in Baltimore wasn't caused by prescription medication. And its so happens rural america has a really high level of disability compared to urban areas. 

Edited September 9, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi