Nike selects Colin Kaepernick for ‘Just Do It’ ad campaign

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

having a right to protest is one thing, protesting for injustice while making millions of dollars off of a company that exploits others is hypocritical. But he is seen as being enlightened not called out for being two-faced

[Boiler 46,270]

29 minutes ago, Enas said:

Im not talking about the whole Nike thing because I despise the sweat shops and how they make women work but just in general of the whole protesting. I feel like it's his right to protest whatever he wants. However he likes. It's his right. If he wants to kneel for something he feels is injustice than he should and can do it because that's the beauty of America.

 

i mean I've seen people boycott and protest irrelevant things but they can still do it. 

Did you notice the title of this thread?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

33 minutes ago, Enas said:

Im not talking about the whole Nike thing because I despise the sweat shops and how they make women work but just in general of the whole protesting. I feel like it's his right to protest whatever he wants. However he likes. It's his right. If he wants to kneel for something he feels is injustice than he should and can do it because that's the beauty of America.

 

i mean I've seen people boycott and protest irrelevant things but they can still do it. 

I think most are fine with him protesting. Just not doing it while is in company uniform being paid millions to be on National TV

[Enas 21]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Did you notice the title of this thread?

I did. The reason why people are upset about Nike and Colin is because he's protesting no? Which is why it's ridiculous to be upset with Nike for that when you can be upset about bigger things like Sweat Shops. It's funny seeing people burn their shoes and clothes and think "So they are upset about Colin and Nike but not Nike having sweat shops? Legally protesting crossed the line but having people work in dirt poor conditions now that was okay?" 

 

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, Enas said:

I did. The reason why people are upset about Nike and Colin is because he's protesting no? Which is why it's ridiculous to be upset with Nike for that when you can be upset about bigger things like Sweat Shops. It's funny seeing people burn their shoes and clothes and think "So they are upset about Colin and Nike but not Nike having sweat shops? Legally protesting crossed the line but having people work in dirt poor conditions now that was okay?" 

 

 

its not ok ? Who here has said it is ?

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

2 minutes ago, Enas said:

I did. The reason why people are upset about Nike and Colin is because he's protesting no? Which is why it's ridiculous to be upset with Nike for that when you can be upset about bigger things like Sweat Shops. It's funny seeing people burn their shoes and clothes and think "So they are upset about Colin and Nike but not Nike having sweat shops? Legally protesting crossed the line but having people work in dirt poor conditions now that was okay?" 

 

 

it's the hypocrisy of his protest, he kneels for injustice but willingly sells out to a company that has a long history of being exploitive.

[Enas 21]

2 minutes ago, Marty Byrde said:

I think most are fine with him protesting. Just not doing it while is in company uniform being paid millions to be on National TV

But that's not what people are saying. They are saying he's disrespecting the flag and the army but really what is more American and Free than protesting and free speech. When you take away someone's right to protest or tell them "You can protest that but not that."  What nation have we become? It's a line that once crossed is hard to come back from. 

 

 

[Enas 21]

Just now, Marty Byrde said:

its not ok ? Who here has said it is ?

Just generally what I've seen People say about the situation not really saying anything particular about anyone here or addressing anyone here it's just the whole general situation. 

[Enas 21]

1 minute ago, Randyandyuni said:

it's the hypocrisy of his protest, he kneels for injustice but willingly sells out to a company that has a long history of being exploitive.

But again I find it funny that people were willing to wear Nike before but now that Nike and Colin are together it's burn the shoes and cut the clothes. Like Nike is crappy for it's treatment of humans not because it's with Colin. I would HOPE that perhaps now that he has a deal with Nike that maybe he can talk to them about Sweat Shops but I won't be holding my breathe for that. 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

the time and manner of his protest is what is offensive to many

 

 

[Enas 21]

1 minute ago, Randyandyuni said:

the time and manner of his protest is what is offensive to many

 

 

Time? I'm not sure I get that. 

 

Manner? Well he was sitting before and an Amry vet was the one to say that kneeling would be more respectful and suggested that he kneel instead of just sit. 

 

 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 minute ago, Enas said:

But again I find it funny that people were willing to wear Nike before but now that Nike and Colin are together it's burn the shoes and cut the clothes. Like Nike is crappy for it's treatment of humans not because it's with Colin. I would HOPE that perhaps now that he has a deal with Nike that maybe he can talk to them about Sweat Shops but I won't be holding my breathe for that. 

the combination of Nike and Colin is the problem

 

He was perceived as disrespecting the flag and military when he sat for the Anthem (later changed to kneeling)

He quit his job (opted out of contract) then sued when no one wanted him

He accepts a job from a company that exploits people while talking about kneeling for intolerance

He is wriiten into an ad campaign where he is worshiped for sacrificing his all for a belief

He is a hypocrite

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

7 minutes ago, Enas said:

Time? I'm not sure I get that. 

 

Manner? Well he was sitting before and an Amry vet was the one to say that kneeling would be more respectful and suggested that he kneel instead of just sit. 

 

 

time - during the National Anthem

Manner - That was one Army vet that said that, no one is disagreeing it's his right to protest, we disagree with when and how he does it. My favorite non-sports part of a sports event is the National Anthem, the flyovers the display of being American, his protest and the decisions of TV executives has denied me that pleasure 

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[Enas 21]

1 minute ago, Randyandyuni said:

the combination of Nike and Colin is the problem

 

He was perceived as disrespecting the flag and military when he sat for the Anthem (later changed to kneeling)

He quit his job (opted out of contract) then sued when no one wanted him

He accepts a job from a company that exploits people while talking about kneeling for intolerance

He is wriiten into an ad campaign where he is worshiped for sacrificing his all for a belief

He is a hypocrite

Again though it's his right. I just feel we step into dangerous territory when we start to say "Protest this but not that." "Don't protest here or at this time." We can talk about perceiving if he's disrespectful to the flag or not but that's still his right I don't like people who burn the flag like I can take kneeling but burning the flag that's a whole other slap in the face but that's still their right. Its the beauty of the US that we get to do these things and do it freely while I other countries you can be jailed for this sort of thing. Democracy is a beauty. 

 

 

But the people who are burning their nikes and cutting their shorts aren't better. Like they don't have a moral high ground to stand on with that. They aren't better than Colin in the Nike regard because to them Sweat Shops weren't a big deal what was a big deal was Colin signing with Nike. Now we can agree that Nike is deal because of its treatment of humans so people should have burned their shoes LONG AGO not because of someone kneeling. Laugh at me but I buy shoes at Payless before I buy Nike shoes. 

 

What about Eric Reid? Why wasn't he offered a job? We can debate about Colin and if he quit and didn't sign a contract but I feel like Eric Reid's case is more compelling. 

 

[Enas 21]

4 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

time - during the National Anthem

Manner - That was one Army vet that said that, no one is disagreeing it's his right to protest, we disagree with when and how he does it. My favorite non-sports part of a sports event is the National Anthem, the flyovers the display of being American, his protest and the decisions of TV executives has denied me that pleasure 

I get that. It may feel a sense of pride to see everyone standing a feeling of unity of being one nation and one people not separated by religion or race in that one moment and it may feel like "Dude not right here not right now." But again it's a beauty to be able to protest even though we may not agree with how he does it and when he does it.