My Fiancé visa got denied !!

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[Chris Duffy 1,257]

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[Rocko20 159]

10 hours ago, jdaveh said:

Honestly, It doesn't suck. It is there for a reason. I feel for you guys but I think the requirements are to low. 22,000 a year is barely enough for one person without all the government fees involved with K1 visa and supporting your new spouse for 6 to 8 months before he or she can work.  Good Luck finding your co sponsors

I would have to agree. The rules are to protect the sponsor and beneficiary from financial ruin. Marriages cost money and marriages to alien fiancees cost even more money. USCIS is simply trying to err on the side of caution here. I've made $30K before and it's very difficult to live on.

 

Op has to find a co-sponsor, get a second job, get promoted, save your money, etc. anything to meet the qualifications.

 

And I just did some research, the poverty guidelines are actually higher for green cards than they are for the K1 visas which explains why barely meeting the K1 poverty standard still isn't enough for K1 approval

https://www.k1approved.com/k1-visa-tips/fiance-visa-income-requirements/

Edited September 2, 2018 by Rocko20

[Jenny17655 284]

12 hours ago, jdaveh said:

Honestly, It doesn't suck. It is there for a reason. I feel for you guys but I think the requirements are to low. 22,000 a year is barely enough for one person without all the government fees involved with K1 visa and supporting your new spouse for 6 to 8 months before he or she can work.  Good Luck finding your co sponsors

Well for me it sucks. The reason why it sucks is because I carefully looked at the guidelines before filing and exceeded for both last tax year and current. My fiancee was also given a 221g at his interview requesting a co sponsor.  I never planned on needing outside help through this process and it doesn't come easy. So yeah when you're in the situation it kinda sucks bad

[geowrian 22,338]

Keep in mind the form's guidelines are minimums.

[Rocko20 159]

20 hours ago, Jenny17655 said:

Well for me it sucks. The reason why it sucks is because I carefully looked at the guidelines before filing and exceeded for both last tax year and current. My fiancee was also given a 221g at his interview requesting a co sponsor.  I never planned on needing outside help through this process and it doesn't come easy. So yeah when you're in the situation it kinda sucks bad

It only sucks if you let it deter you from getting a co-sponsor, second job, promotion, education, etc. to better qualify for the income requirements

 

As already mentioned, even if you exceed the K1 standards that doesn't mean you've exceeded the green card standards or the immigration officers standards  which are clearly higher

Edited September 3, 2018 by Rocko20

[Jenny17655 284]

3 hours ago, Rocko20 said:

It only sucks if you let it deter you from getting a co-sponsor, second job, promotion, education, etc. to better qualify for the income requirements

 

As already mentioned, even if you exceed the K1 standards that doesn't mean you've exceeded the green card standards or the immigration officers standards  which are clearly higher

It really does suck trust me. It doesn't suck for YOU because you probably aren't in the situation.  I am not rich by any means but I am currently living at about 175% of the federal poverty level (that's including my beneficiary in my household size). That's over the limit for AOS. People in general do not know enough about immigration to understand the I134 vs I864 and are completely afraid as soon as you mention the word support.  No one really cares about my relationship with my fiance. I love him, they don't (heck they don't even know him) and they are just going to go on with their lives. 

[midwinterrose 277]

On 9/1/2018 at 6:31 PM, jdaveh said:

Honestly, It doesn't suck. It is there for a reason. I feel for you guys but I think the requirements are to low. 22,000 a year is barely enough for one person without all the government fees involved with K1 visa and supporting your new spouse for 6 to 8 months before he or she can work.  Good Luck finding your co sponsors

There are different costs of living throughout the country, just because you think it's too low for your experience doesn't mean others can't make it work.  $22,000/year is nothing if you live in Los Angeles--you can't afford to live under a bridge out there for that kind of money, but there are plenty of other places with lower cost of living where $22,000/year makes for a comfortable living--not rolling in cash or anything, but not suffering either.

[Ranim&Corey 3]

On 9/2/2018 at 2:03 PM, Jenny17655 said:

Well for me it sucks. The reason why it sucks is because I carefully looked at the guidelines before filing and exceeded for both last tax year and current. My fiancee was also given a 221g at his interview requesting a co sponsor.  I never planned on needing outside help through this process and it doesn't come easy. So yeah when you're in the situation it kinda sucks bad

I agree.. we are going through a lot now  and when the parent doesn't want  to help, that made things more difficult too

[Ranim&Corey 3]

3 hours ago, Jenny17655 said:

It really does suck trust me. It doesn't suck for YOU because you probably aren't in the situation.  I am not rich by any means but I am currently living at about 175% of the federal poverty level (that's including my beneficiary in my household size). That's over the limit for AOS. People in general do not know enough about immigration to understand the I134 vs I864 and are completely afraid as soon as you mention the word support.  No one really cares about my relationship with my fiance. I love him, they don't (heck they don't even know him) and they are just going to go on with their lives. 

I don't think they're  doing that to protect us . They're making things much more difficult than easier ..

[Jenny17655 284]

On 9/2/2018 at 5:09 AM, Rocko20 said:

I would have to agree. The rules are to protect the sponsor and beneficiary from financial ruin. Marriages cost money and marriages to alien fiancees cost even more money. USCIS is simply trying to err on the side of caution here. I've made $30K before and it's very difficult to live on.

 

Op has to find a co-sponsor, get a second job, get promoted, save your money, etc. anything to meet the qualifications.

 

And I just did some research, the poverty guidelines are actually higher for green cards than they are for the K1 visas which explains why barely meeting the K1 poverty standard still isn't enough for K1 approval

https://www.k1approved.com/k1-visa-tips/fiance-visa-income-requirements/

Then maybe USCIS should raise the income guideline to what they actually want people to meet. .  I know I for one did meet and exceed the guidelines provided by USCIS. I checked them BEFORE filing. Had I known that I would need a co sponsor from the beginning I would have had an extra 6.5 months at the least to look for one or increase my income Finding out at the embassy stage is terribly stressful and it sucks. And anyone's opinion on whether it sycks or not that had not gone through it does not count. Thank you.

[Jenny17655 284]

The scariest part for me I guess is we are now facing the possibility that my fiancee will be found inadmissible and we will gave to start all over. The problem is I asked the embassy 3 times to please clarify what the issue us with my income and the response is always "we have reviewed your documents and a co sponsor is needed " How can I move forward and fix that?

[Shiran 1,134]

1 hour ago, Jenny17655 said:

The scariest part for me I guess is we are now facing the possibility that my fiancee will be found inadmissible and we will gave to start all over. The problem is I asked the embassy 3 times to please clarify what the issue us with my income and the response is always "we have reviewed your documents and a co sponsor is needed " How can I move forward and fix that?

It does suck, but the way I see you can choose to spend your energy to try to fight bureaucratic windmill (and risk losing and running of time) OR you can instead work on reaching to your reasonably well healed friends and relatives, and seeing if you can find co-sponsor? I understand it sucks asking for people take a serious financial risk for 10 years I think,  but practically, if you want to  finish this, this seems to be the only alternative that will be successful. At this point they do not want you to prove you have more income, they explicitly want a co-sponsor. 

[geowrian 22,338]

23 minutes ago, Shiran said:

I understand it sucks asking for people take a serious financial risk for 10 years

Just as a note, there is no 10 years limit.

There is a 40 quarters of qualifying work credits condition to terminate the I-864 requirements (as well as becoming a USC). If one chooses not to work or become a USC, it could even be until death of the sponsor or beneficiary.

Edited September 4, 2018 by geowrian

[Jenny17655 284]

28 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Just as a note, there is no 10 years limit.

There is a 40 quarters of qualifying work credits condition to terminate the I-864 requirements (as well as becoming a USC). If one chooses not to work or become a USC, it could even be until death of the sponsor or beneficiary.

AND it's not the I864 it's the I134 which would be effective for no longer than 90 days and is NOT enforceable (we are actually prepared to file AOS within 30 days). There is basically no risk as my fiance wouldn't be eligible to receive any public benefits during that time but most people hear support and automatically think there going to have to take care of this person on a daily basis. Believe me as much as I complain about it I am searching every day. 

Edited September 4, 2018 by Jenny17655