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ad8816   32

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For the affidavit of support, it says on the form I-864 on part 5, number 7, "if you have siblings, parents or adult children with the same principle residence who are combining their income with yours by submitting form I-864A..."

 

My question: I am the primary sponsor, so I am filling out my I-864, but my income is not enough. A household family member is the joint sponsor, so should they fill out the I-864A? It seems straight-forward but, I am asking because I have gotten some contradictory advice about which form to use. Also, will the NVC specify which form to use based on the situation, or is this something we will have to figure out ourselves? Because to me, I would submit the I-864A for the joint sponsor, since they are living in the same household as I am, based on the directions I am seeing on this I-864. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

Met for the first time: 7/2015 (Italy) 

Married: 12/20/2017 (California) :luv:

I-130 petition sent to AZ lockbox: 1/29/2018

I-130 received at AZ lockbox: 1/31/2018

Text/Email update: 2/6/2018 

  • Texas Service Center 

NOA1 hard copy: 2/10/2018

  • Receipt Date: 2/5/2018

I-130 APPROVED: 8/1/2018

Sent to US Dept. of State: 8/6/2018

Dept. of State Received: 8/15/2018

NVC Welcome Email: 9/4/2018 (around 20:30 California time)

  • Paid IV and AOS Fees: 9/4/2018

Completed and Submitted AOS Documents: 9/14/2018

Submitted everything to NVC: 9/16/2018

NVC Case Completed: 10/2/2018 

  • Received approval for all AOS and IV documents BUT had to rotate and re-upload husband's passport biographic info page: 9/20/2018

Interview: 11/13/2018 (Naples, Italy)

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Immigration day: 12/13/2018

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Your interpretation is correct.

Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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Paola Phillips   6

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Correct. I used the I-864A form for my joint sponsor (my father-in-law) because my husband's income wasn't enough and when I went to the interview in Naples I had no problem with it. Good luck!

Met Online: August, 2015

First Met: January 14, 2017

Engagement: February 28, 2017

I-129F Sent: March 20, 2017

I-129F NOA1: March 27, 2017

I-129F NOA2: October 6, 2017

NVC Received: October 23, 2017

Consolate Received: October 23, 2017

Interview Date: January 10, 2018 (APPROVED!!!)

Visa Received: January 12, 2018

US Entry: January 27, 2018

Marriage: February 27, 2018

AOS Sent: April 02, 2018

I-485 NOA1: April 6, 2018

EAD and AP NOA1: April 6, 2018

Biometrics Date: May 1, 2018

EAD and AP NOA2: August 8, 2018

EAD and AP Received: August 15, 2018

SSN Received: August 16, 2018

AOS Interview Scheduled: September 20, 2018 (APPROVED!!!)

AOS NOA2: September 25, 2018

Green Card Received: September 26, 2018

ROC Sent: August 21, 2020

N400 Sent: June 28, 2021

Interview Date (i-751 &N-400): December 13, 2021

Approval Date: December 15, 2021

Oath Ceremony: January 11, 2022

 

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ad8816   32

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Thanks for the responses @Paola Phillips & @arken !!! 

Met for the first time: 7/2015 (Italy) 

Married: 12/20/2017 (California) :luv:

I-130 petition sent to AZ lockbox: 1/29/2018

I-130 received at AZ lockbox: 1/31/2018

Text/Email update: 2/6/2018 

  • Texas Service Center 

NOA1 hard copy: 2/10/2018

  • Receipt Date: 2/5/2018

I-130 APPROVED: 8/1/2018

Sent to US Dept. of State: 8/6/2018

Dept. of State Received: 8/15/2018

NVC Welcome Email: 9/4/2018 (around 20:30 California time)

  • Paid IV and AOS Fees: 9/4/2018

Completed and Submitted AOS Documents: 9/14/2018

Submitted everything to NVC: 9/16/2018

NVC Case Completed: 10/2/2018 

  • Received approval for all AOS and IV documents BUT had to rotate and re-upload husband's passport biographic info page: 9/20/2018

Interview: 11/13/2018 (Naples, Italy)

 🇺🇸 APPROVED! 🇺🇸

Immigration day: 12/13/2018

  • Point Of Entry: SFO
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Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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On 8/27/2018 at 4:54 PM, Paola Phillips said:

Correct. I used the I-864A form for my joint sponsor (my father-in-law) because my husband's income wasn't enough and when I went to the interview in Naples I had no problem with it. Good luck!

NO.  This is NOT correct.  A "joint sponsor" must provide an I-864 form.  Now, if you are "combining income" with a "household member" in order to qualify, THAT is when you use the I-864a.  If the person you have in mind from your household qualifies on their own, then they should act as a "joint sponsor", not a household member.  If you use them as a household member, make sure they fit that definition from the instructions.

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On 8/31/2018 at 5:28 PM, pushbrk said:

NO.  This is NOT correct.  A "joint sponsor" must provide an I-864 form.  Now, if you are "combining income" with a "household member" in order to qualify, THAT is when you use the I-864a.  If the person you have in mind from your household qualifies on their own, then they should act as a "joint sponsor", not a household member.  If you use them as a household member, make sure they fit that definition from the instructions.

Ah ok! So you're saying if the household member doesn't qualify on their own and I do not qualify on my own, but if together, we qualify-- then we would file the I-864a for the household member sponsor.

 My joint sponsor will be my mother (she's also my household member) and she definitely qualifies on her own with her income-- so go with the I-864, is what I am understanding. 

 

Thank you for commenting!!!! I really hope to make no mistakes. 

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Met for the first time: 7/2015 (Italy) 

Married: 12/20/2017 (California) :luv:

I-130 petition sent to AZ lockbox: 1/29/2018

I-130 received at AZ lockbox: 1/31/2018

Text/Email update: 2/6/2018 

  • Texas Service Center 

NOA1 hard copy: 2/10/2018

  • Receipt Date: 2/5/2018

I-130 APPROVED: 8/1/2018

Sent to US Dept. of State: 8/6/2018

Dept. of State Received: 8/15/2018

NVC Welcome Email: 9/4/2018 (around 20:30 California time)

  • Paid IV and AOS Fees: 9/4/2018

Completed and Submitted AOS Documents: 9/14/2018

Submitted everything to NVC: 9/16/2018

NVC Case Completed: 10/2/2018 

  • Received approval for all AOS and IV documents BUT had to rotate and re-upload husband's passport biographic info page: 9/20/2018

Interview: 11/13/2018 (Naples, Italy)

 🇺🇸 APPROVED! 🇺🇸

Immigration day: 12/13/2018

  • Point Of Entry: SFO
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pushbrk   12,894

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33 minutes ago, ad8816 said:

Ah ok! So you're saying if the household member doesn't qualify on their own and I do not qualify on my own, but if together, we qualify-- then we would file the I-864a for the household member sponsor.

 My joint sponsor will be my mother (she's also my household member) and she definitely qualifies on her own with her income-- so go with the I-864, is what I am understanding. 

 

Thank you for commenting!!!! I really hope to make no mistakes. 

That is correct.  If your mother files a joint tax return with a spouse, her spouse should provide an I-864a whether they have income or not.

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