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USCIS doesn't seem to have any guidance on the amount of affidavits one should include as part of the proof of a bonafide marriage. Upon conversation, we have around 40 people we could ask who have known us both for almost the duration of our relationship, including parents, close family and close friends.  I feel like 40 affidavits might be overkill, but does anyone have any recommendations on roughly how many we should include, knowing we have a wealth of them to pull from?  I want to start gathering this documentation now, as getting other people to put together information always takes longer than you initially expect!

 

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Affidavits are the least important piece of the package and some feel a total waste of time.  Focus on pictures, communication and if you have any financial minglings, that too.  Travel documents to see each other.  Maybe 3 affidavits to round it out, but they won’t be the focus of the package.

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3 minutes ago, ScottishTom said:

Hey, 

 

USCIS doesn't seem to have any guidance on the amount of affidavits one should include as part of the proof of a bonafide marriage. Upon conversation, we have around 40 people we could ask who have known us both for almost the duration of our relationship, including parents, close family and close friends.  I feel like 40 affidavits might be overkill, but does anyone have any recommendations on roughly how many we should include, knowing we have a wealth of them to pull from?  I want to start gathering this documentation now, as getting other people to put together information always takes longer than you initially expect!

 

 

When i filed my applications i just attached some photos.

During the interview I added the following:

1. joint bank account statement

2. phone bill 

3. healthcare

4. car insurance

5. flight ticket copy that we visited each other

6. gift receipt that i bought for my husband

7. copy of the letter's envelope that our friends and family mailed to us

 

 

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Just now, PollyC said:

 

When i filed my applications i just attached some photos.

During the interview I added the following:

1. joint bank account statement

2. phone bill 

3. healthcare

4. car insurance

5. flight ticket copy that we visited each other

6. gift receipt that i bought for my husband

7. copy of the letter's envelope that our friends and family mailed to us

 

 

Thats also good to know, we have everything on that list so far, as well as leases, other insurance policies, and probably around 500 pictures to chose from!

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4 minutes ago, ScottishTom said:

Thats also good to know, we have everything on that list so far, as well as leases, other insurance policies, and probably around 500 pictures to chose from!

We only submitted 3 affidavits, and I wrote a letter detailing our relationship history. We sent maybe 15 photos, and copies of travel reservations, maybe 3 pages of chats (pulled over a number of years), and copies of handwritten letters (including the envelopes with dates), ring receipts, and the program from our wedding. I think a variety of quality documentation will be more helpful than a huge quantity one type. Best of luck!

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6 minutes ago, amdublin14 said:

We only submitted 3 affidavits, and I wrote a letter detailing our relationship history. We sent maybe 15 photos, and copies of travel reservations, maybe 3 pages of chats (pulled over a number of years), and copies of handwritten letters (including the envelopes with dates), ring receipts, and the program from our wedding. I think a variety of quality documentation will be more helpful than a huge quantity one type. Best of luck!

I was taking the approach of a huge quantity of everything lol, but maybe thats not the best approach!

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1 minute ago, ScottishTom said:

I was taking the approach of a huge quantity of everything lol, but maybe thats not the best approach!

I'm sure everyone has done it a bit differently, but I remember being told not to bombard them with photos and chats... I think it honestly depends on your relationship and preference. Really the burden is on you to show evidence, so by all means provide a large quantity of documents. I just focused on making sure we had all of the types of evidence for each year we had been together, to show a continuous relationship timeline. So you have some discretion with what to provide, I just wouldn't suggest sending all 500, or even 100, of your photos ;) 

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2018/06/28 -  (+14 days, 189 days) "We sent your petition to the Department of State"

2018/07/09 -  (+11 days, 200 days) NVC received petition (had to call 7/11 to confirm). PIVOT case.

2018/08/01 - (+23 days, 223 days) NVC case created/case # received (email); AOS and IV fees paid.

2018/08/03 - AOS package submitted

2018/08/04 - DS-260 submitted.

2018/08/06 - (+5, 228 days) IV civil documents submitted.

2018/08/13 - (+7, 235 days) Case Complete "At NVC," and "Documentarily Qualified" CEAC message w/emails. Message to delete and reupload I-864 files (need to be uploaded on the same day) at 2 p.m.

2018/09/14 - ( +32, 267 days) Received Interview Appointment Email

2018/10/02 - (+18, 285 days) Interview at Dublin Embassy (PRAYING!) -- APPROVED 😍

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23 minutes ago, ScottishTom said:

Thats also good to know, we have everything on that list so far, as well as leases, other insurance policies, and probably around 500 pictures to chose from!

 

Oh wow then you’re good to go! ;) 

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  • (Day 19) Jun 04 2018 - Received email & SMS notification - case received (All money orders being cashed on this day)
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  • (Day 61) Jul 16 2018 - Case status of I-485 changed to "Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview"
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  • (Day 71) Jul 26 2018 - Interview notice received (Interview scheduled on Aug 23 - 9.50AM)
  • (Day 99) Aug 23 2018 - Interview approved on the spot! Yay! 🎉  I-485 status changed to “New Card Is Being Produced”,
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  • July 15 2020 - status changed to “Case Was Updated To Show Fingerprints Were Taken” 
  • Feb 16 2021 - Status changed to “New Card is being Produce”
  • Feb 19 2021 - Status changed to "Card Was Mailed To Me"
  • Feb 24 2021 - New card received in the mail!
  • Feb 24 2023 - Filed N-400 online
  • Mar 11 2023 - Received Biometrics Appointment letter in mail (Appointment date: Mar 20)
  • Mar 20 2023 - Case status changed to "Case Is Being Actively Reviewed By USCIS"
  • Apr 04 2023 - Received online update "Interview Was Scheduled" (May 23)
  • May 23 2023 - Interview Passed on the spot
  • Oct 26 2023 - Status changed to "Oath Ceremony Notice Was Mailed" (on Nov 9th)

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The key is quality evidence, not a quantity of it. Affidavits carry very little to no weight...if you were light on other evidence, then it's better to include it than nothing. But with the items you've noted, I don't think they would have an impact on the total case.

It won't hurt to include them, especially if you already have them, but otherwise I'd focus on presenting other quality evidence.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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No one ever submits any less than stellar affidavits so not really much can be learned.

 

We never bothered with any.

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90 Day Window Opened....08/08/17

I-751 Packet Sent..............08/14/17

NO1 Dated.........................

NO1 Received....................

Check Cashed....................

Biometrics Received..........

Biometrics Appointment.....

Approved...........................

 

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I-130 NOA1: 22 Dec 2014
I-130 NOA2: 25 Jan 2015
NVC Received: 06 Feb 2015
Pay AOS Bill: 07 Mar 2015
Pay IV Bill : 20 Mar 2015
Send IV/AOS Package: 23 Mar 2015
Submit DS-261: 26 Mar 2015
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Interview Date: 22 Sep 2015
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We had approx 100 photos. 

Certified copy of marriage license

chat logs but just the previous month. 

I included copy of bank statement showing my wife is on my checking account, listed on my health insurance and bennificiary on my investments and tax transcripts that we filed jointly.  In addition to all the required documents 

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