America's last known Nazi collaborator is deported to Germany

[jg121783 3,921]

I'm trying to figure out how what I said qualifies as a conspiracy theory. A conspiracy theory is a theory that a conspiracy took place. A conspiracy involves more than one person. A theory is a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something. All I am talking about is one guy who collaborated with Nazis who later in interviews admitted to it. No conspiracy here. No theory here. Just a catch all phrase people with no valid argument like to throw around.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jg121783 said:

I'm trying to figure out how what I said qualifies as a conspiracy theory. A conspiracy theory is a theory that a conspiracy took place. A conspiracy involves more than one person. A theory is a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something. All I am talking about is one guy who collaborated with Nazis who later in interviews admitted to it. No conspiracy here. No theory here. Just a catch all phrase people with no valid argument like to throw around.

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Of all the conspiracy theories spun around the 87-year-old Jewish billionaire George Soros — that he is the “puppet master” of all liberals, that he owns Black Lives Matter, that he is secretly building a new world order — the most demonstrably insane may be the claim that he was a Nazi.

That is: That the 14-year-old boy who had to hide from his own government during the German occupation of Hungary was a war criminal who sent his own people to gas chambers.

This particular strain of anti-Soros paranoia has festered for years on far-right message boards, but it suddenly metastasized on Tuesday when it appeared in Roseanne Barr’s Twitter rant, then spread to the feeds of Donald Trump Jr. and tens of thousands beyond.

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Unlike other parts of Barr’s rant — namely her comparison between a black woman and an ape, since deleted and apologized for, though not before it cost her her ABC sitcom — the actress has shown no regret for writing “George Soros is a Nazi.”

Trump Jr., too, has defended his decision to share the message, denying there was anything anti-Semitic about it. Alex Jones claims there is even proof of what Barr claimed — that Soros admitted to Nazi collaboration in a 1998 interview on “60 Minutes.”

This is, at best, a gross distortion of an interview in which the financier reflected on how he survived as a Jewish teenager in Nazi-occupied Hungary.

“I was 14 years old,” he told Steve Kroft. “It was a tremendous evil, a very personal experience of evil.”

But it was an experience for which he felt no guilt, Soros added, unwittingly seeding smears that would follow him for the next 20 years.

George Soros wasn’t a Nazi, Roseanne Barr. He was a 14-year-old Jew who hid from them.

[jg121783 3,921]

None of that answered my question as to how what I said about George Soros is by definition a conspiracy theory. I know you are trying to deflect because you can't answer the question. Even if what I said was wrong (which it wasn't) it still doesn't qualify as a conspiracy theory. By the way I never said Soros was a Nazi. I said he was a Nazi collaborator.

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[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, jg121783 said:

None of that answered my question as to how what I said about George Soros is by definition a conspiracy theory. I know you are trying to deflect because you can't answer the question.

read the first sentence again. 

 

more,

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George Soros
Hungarian-American investor George Soros has been the subject of conspiracy theories since the 1990s. Like many billionaires, Soros has used his wealth to promote various political, social, educational and scientific causes, totaling an estimated $11bn up to 2016. However, theories tend to assert that Soros is in control of a large portion of the world's wealth and governments, and that he secretly funds a large range of persons and organizations for nefarious purposes, such as Antifa, which the conspiracies allege to be a single far-left militant group. Such ideas have been promoted by Bill O'Reilly, Roy Moore, Alex Jones, Arizona Congressman Paul Gosar, Breitbart News and cartoonist Ben Garrison. Soros conspiracy theories are sometimes linked to antisemitic conspiracy theories.[56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#George_Soros

[jg121783 3,921]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

read the first sentence again. 

 

more,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories#George_Soros

A conspiracy involves more than one person. I am talking about one individual. The word conspiracy by definition doesn't apply here neither does the term conspiracy theory. Even if what I said about Soros was incorrect that term doesn't apply here. Like I said it is an improperly used term that people without a valid argument throw around.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, jg121783 said:

A conspiracy involves more than one person. I am talking about one individual. The word conspiracy by definition doesn't apply here neither does the term conspiracy theory. Even if what I said about Soros was incorrect that term doesn't apply here. Like I said it is an improperly used term that people without a valid argument throw around.

oh but it does apply here. no one is improperly throwing around terms. i suggest you learn more about the different types of conspiracy theory. start here:

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Jesse Walker (2013) has identified five kinds of conspiracy theories:

• The "Enemy Outside" refers to theories based on figures alleged to be scheming against a community from without.
• The "Enemy Within" finds the conspirators lurking inside the nation, indistinguishable from ordinary citizens.
• The "Enemy Above" involves powerful people manipulating events for their own gain.
• The "Enemy Below" features the lower classes working to overturn the social order.
• The "Benevolent Conspiracies" are angelic forces that work behind the scenes to improve the world and help people.^[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

 

george soros conspiracy theories would fall under the 'enemy outside'

[jg121783 3,921]

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

oh but it does apply here. no one is improperly throwing around terms. i suggest you learn more about the different types of conspiracy theory. start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

 

george soros conspiracy theories would fall under the 'enemy outside'

Conspiracy:

 

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

 

Theory:

 

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

 

Conspiracy Theory:

 

a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

 

Like I said the term conspiracy theory by definition doesn't apply here.

[smilesammich 10,727]

13 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Conspiracy:

 

a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

 

Theory:

 

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

 

Conspiracy Theory:

 

a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

 

Like I said the term conspiracy theory by definition doesn't apply here.

by definition, it does. i've given plenty of proof but you go ahead and keep posting the same thing since it appears to support your method of deflection. doesn't matter. george soros isn't/wasn't a nazi, as you claimed.

 

[Dashinka 25,203]

51 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

oh but it does apply here. no one is improperly throwing around terms. i suggest you learn more about the different types of conspiracy theory. start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

 

george soros conspiracy theories would fall under the 'enemy outside'

Who cares about George Soros.  Even though Hillary had his pockets she still lost. 

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

14 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Who cares about George Soros.  Even though Hillary had his pockets she still lost. 

 

 

 

10 hours ago, jg121783 said:

So when is George Soros going to be barred from entering the US for being a Nazi collaborator? I guess this only applies to the collaborators who don't have a lot of money.

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

11 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

It's funny Antifa were able to find one of their own and beat him up for carrying the flag. But yet this guy was walking the streets for years and not one of them thought it would be a good idea to go give him a punch. 

 

A really nazi and not one man in   to be found anywhere. Do these idiots even know what a real one looks like? 

According to at least one or two here, it is very easy indeed to spot a nazi on the street.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

13 minutes ago, Satisfied said:

According to at least one or two here, it is very easy indeed to spot a nazi on the street.

The saddest part is the lack of condemnation across the media.

 

He was targeted and beat up for carrying the American flag, that's scary. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

The saddest part is the lack of condemnation across the media.

 

He was targeted and beat up for carrying the American flag, that's scary. 

i have yet to see one article cheering antifa for beating this guy up.

[jg121783 3,921]

1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

by definition, it does. i've given plenty of proof but you go ahead and keep posting the same thing since it appears to support your method of deflection. doesn't matter. george soros isn't/wasn't a nazi, as you claimed.

 

Conspiracy Theory:

 

a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for a circumstance or event.

 

I said George Soros, an individual not an organization, was a Nazi collaborator. Also I didn't say anything about any organization being responsible for anything. The definition doesn't fit. No matter how much you want it to it just doesn't. Also I never claimed he was a Nazi but rather a Nazi collaborator. I don't know how many times I have to correct you on that before you get it but this is my last try because I have better things to do with my time.

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

i have yet to see one article cheering antifa for beating this guy up.

where does anyone say that articles were cheering antifa for beating him up, if it had been anyone not seen as a fascist by the MSM it would have had a hundred newscasters and late night comedians whimpering like scared children after a nightmare, if violence is bad, it is bad, not a politically acceptable response for one side of society